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Name: James(Jamie) Ford
Email: email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org
Address: UK Address for momAnita Ford7 Christ Church Court Derby StreetOldham, UK OL97UUAnother UK AddressJames FordFlat 1,Tenterden House,Kinglake Estate,London, SE17 2LLInternet connection guy in LondonIlesanmi Oni60 Woodview Road BeestonLeeds LS117eaLittle Saints Orphanage Abimbola Abayomi23 Allen AvenueIkejalagos23401NigeriaHis work mates Son’s Addressolatokunbo Ipaye11 bishop Hughes estateLagosNigeria23401
Other Comments: Gosh, I don't know where to start. I have so many IM's so many emails from the scammer who took me for $1300 over the last 3 months. I didn't even get roses or a teddy bear because I would not give out my home address, but I have gotten a $1300 life lesson that I know I will never forget. I am a 46 year old woman with a 17 year old daughter that I raised on my own since she was born. Now that my daughter is nearly raised I had thought I would now take some time for myself. I work out daily, eat healthy, don't drink, don't smoke, spiritual......so one day I decided to post myself on a few dating sites. After sifting through 100s of emails trying to find people who intriged me. I finally strike up a conversation with a few guys that were from each different spectrums that peaked my interest. One older but still a bit wild and immature for his age for my taste, one a lot younger but very sweet but I knew I would have nothing in common with and then Jamie. Well James (Jamie) Ford as I am sure you all can guess was perfect, the right age, well 10 years younger to handle my 40 something libido….you know what I mean ;) but intellegent, spiritual, and very attentive. I wasn't looking for someone to take care of me, someone to be my daughters daddy, someone to rescue me, I already had a great life……….I just wanted someone to share it with. To tell you the truth, I didn't care what kind of job they had and never even considered that when prospecting the three I ended up talking with.It seems these scammers prey on women and men who have not leaned on a spouse or partner in many years. Women and Men who are stable in life and now are looking for someone to share their success with. We all seem to be well read, caring, thoughtful and somewhat spiritual……that it seems is their target market. So back to Jamie and my story, I was smitten by his words, his willingness to spend hours chatting about nothing at all. Well, a week into our emails & chatting he decides he is going to go to the UK because he missed his mum(his word not mine) and while he was there he tells me he is getting deployed to Afghanistan. I didn't understand this because he had told me previously he did design and engineering of weapons for a private company. I asked lots of questions and was always met with a plausible explanation. Well 3 weeks in, he says if I want to continue to talk like we had, he would have to buy a personal internet connection since he could not use company connection to discuss personal things in Afghanistan. At first he said he would just be in Afghanistan for a few weeks maybe a month tops then it became longer and longer. I started running Google searches on his name, where he said he lived, his mom's name, the car accident that killed his dad and brother. I couldn't find a thing which left me curious but not cautious. I agreed to send him a Skype phone that cost me $189 so he could call me while he was there, my way of justifying that I didn't send money lol During the week before he left for AF his mom had a heart attack and when she got home he had to hire a nurse to come stay with her. The cost for a nurse for a month was $1200 but he could pay in increments since the services are being rendered during that month. I asked 'why don't you have any money if you work for this great company?' He said he was paid before leaving for the UK but his mum's operation was very expensive and he only wanted the best for her…again this seems logical to me because I would want the same for my mom. I agree to help pay for the nurse and send $350 to him that week with a promise to send his mother another $350 the following pay check and another $350 at the end of the month. By the way, her name was Anita Ford. I continued to email and chat with him on a daily basis and he would send lovely emails (now I find out they were all plagiarized from Loveingyou.com) Our chats continued and I sent the money as promised to his mom in Oldham, UK. Sometimes it would take 2-3 days for them to pick it up but they would eventually. I assume now this is because they were waiting for someone they knew to be working the Western Union office so they did not have to show ID. The end of the month rolls around I send the last $350, I am relieved, I have met my obligation and again justified it in my mind that it was just $1050 that I spent for a life time of happiness. Ok now here's the kicker, he contacts me all freaked out about a dream he had that he was going to die and he realized he had not been sending his usual donation to an Orphanage in South Africa and he is scared that if he does not send it God will punish him and his dream will come true. I told him I was broke and could not afford to send any more money and he begged 'please my love, I am afraid my dream will come true just $50 please send it to them please so I don't have anything harm me before I can come home to you' Silly me, I gave in and send it and he gives me an address in Lagos Nigeria to send it to. I ran the address through Google when I got home and it was on the known fraudulent address's used by scammers to get money in Nigeria. This is the first I have ever heard of Nigerian Scams and unfortunately I didn't check the address before I left. I IM'd him and told him what I had found, he kept saying 'I see' 'I see' he then asked 'so you think what we have is fake?' By now we had been talking for over 2 months and I really hoped and prayed that he was the one. I told him 'no, but if you are sending funds to a known fraudulent address don't you want to know?' He was agreeing with me 'yes thank you my love for checking that out' 'you're the best my love always looking out for me' 'Babe I love you so much' I decided at that point that would be the last time I would send money no matter what the cause. I started searching sites and looked through literally thousands of pictures on Yahoo Group anti-scammers, Delphifaq.com and Romancescam.com, known model agencies where photos are taken from all to justify in my head that I was dealing with a scammer. Never once did I find a picture that even resembled him. We are our own worst enemy in this one because we truly want to believe in people. My daughter had a car accident and totaled her car (thank God she was not hurt)but it somehow worked to my advantage, if he were to ask for money again I would just use that as an excuse not to send it. He hinted around from time to time about being broke but I always cried poor so he never asked. Still there was something nagging me in the back of my mind so I ran across the way to run his IP information in Yahoo mail from this group. I ran it on every email that he sent me from the beginning all originate from Africa and show NG Nigeria. I was blown away! I drafted a Good Bye Kiss My Ass email and sent it, he in turn sent a huge emial back saying it was a foolish boy game that he and the real Jamie conjured up to see who could get more girls interested in the other. The day before he asked if I had ever dated a black man so he mentioned that in the last email and said he hoped I would get his hint he wanted me to know because he really fell in love with me. Needless to say I have blocked him off every form of communication that I had with him. At this point, all I know is I will not trust a note from someone who contacts me on a social networking site any longer. I will always inquire about their background and who they are and if I can not find anything to support that, I will not talk with them. I have learned that lesson all too well.Sorry this is so long, I actually edited out about half of what I had wrote.lol I am finding it therapeutic to write about it to hopefully put the last 3 months in perspective for myself and if I can help someone else that is great!Thanks to this group I am healing. It has only been 3 days since my Goodbye email to him so I am hoping to feel much better as time passes.
Anonymous, I am so sorry that you were hurt. But, good job blocking your scammer and breaking all communication! Stay strong and keep away from your 'Jamie', you can do it. If you feel the pain or feel like you might contact him come back here and post instead Just do not contact 'Jamie' again. You did good to break it off, keep it that way.
I am a recent victim, too, and I lost $3,000 to my scammer, so I know what you are going through right now. My scammer called himself 'Jamie Grant' and was also 10 years my junior (I am 56, scammer claimed to be 46). I have noticed it seems to be quite common for 'younger' scammers to claim to be interested in and scam women about 10 years older. Not sure if it is the same when they scam men.
Also finding it common for these sociopaths to scam in the name of God. I am a very Christian woman with very strong, active faith and my scammer got me through my faith. I've seen it over and over here and on other sites. So, know that it happens, you are not alone.
Have you reported your scammer to the social website he contacted you through? You really need to do that, it is easy. I will tell you that my scammer contacted me by sending me a message on MySpace. It was very easy to report him and MySpace was so kind, confidential, fast, etc. in removing his profile quickly, instructing me on how to proceed on my end and that they would assist law enforcement if I chose to report it to them. They do NOT tell the scammer who reported them. You need to have him removed. No, it will not stop him, but it will inconvenience and slow him down. And, possibly save potential victim(s).
You are correct that you should never respond to people you do not know via email, social websites, etc. But, you also need to get educated! I've received some excellect tips and education from contributors here that I think you will find helpful.
Go go 'JAMIE GRANT' and ready the posts there. In particular regard to email, a post on page 3 to me from Agent 86 and then a post by OJAS. Everyone should read these.
I wish you the best, hang tough, and remember, if it hurts or gets lonely, post here DO NOT contact your scammer.
Be safe, be smart, get scammer education, and be blessed! <><
Thank you so much for your words of encouragement!! It was just Tuesday that I sent the goodbye email and he sent me one back saying he loved me so much he was going to tell me the truth and that is why he asked me on our last chat if I had ever been with a black man and that it was a foolish boy game with the real Jamie Ford who lives in the UK lol I finally blocked everything and yes I did report him. For some reason he is still on Myspace so I will send the request again in the event that it was overlooked.
I have been to 3 of the dating scam sites and have posted information and pictures at each and I am planning on using them for support. I intend to call the British Embassy on Monday to see if there is anything that can be done because the majority of the money I sent was to the UK.
I told someone on another site that Wednesday was the loneliest day I have had in a very long time. I hate to say it but, I really don't care as much about the money. I mean yeah would I like to have it back, heck yeah! It was really more about the relationship that I was looking forward to that seems to be a bigger loss to me. We spoke every day for hours and the attack on my good nature, and on my willingness to help others was a slap in the face. I have always been that way. My mom used to tell me 'you can't save all the lost puppies' but for some reason I never listened lol it appears I am still trying.
I did read all of the posts on your thread because I think that learning what other people went through gave me the strength to be as strong as I was about ending all communication.
My scammer also used God in his monologue to me, he was actually quite versed at scripture. At times he used terms that I didn't even know and when I asked about it he was kind of caddy and said read your bible lol It took me back once or twice lol
But I did fall for him over the 3+ months we have been talking so it is hard to get the new mind set going. I have been trying to keep myself busy so I don't think about it. The worst is at night when I am in my quiet time, this too shall pass though.
I have been very diligent on trying to find if he has the same pictures posted on any other site. It appears to be a new set of pictures and a new story about a guy working in the US that has to go to Afghanistan. So beware……like a virus these guys mutate. I have a feeling some of my emails may be on the hot swap list soon as well lol
anonymous from United States
Be assured, you absolutely did right by cutting your scammer off the way you did. Try to think of that if you ever doubt it was the right thing. Just hold tight and do not give in and contact your scammer, even if you think you just want to give him a piece of your mind (cause he doesn't care). As you probably know already, scammers have an answer for everything, always. It will not end, just move on. You did good!
Agreed, nights can be the worst! My scammer called me, IM'd and emailed me all through the night every night. It was so bad that even up to last week, it was such a habit to be awakened every 30-60 min, I continued to wake up with a start all through the night. The last 2 nights I only woke up 2x each night. I believe taking up every possible minute of your time is part of their 'brainwashing', some may disagree. But, for me, days/weeks at a time with little to no sleep, barely eathing, little or no contact with friends & family, did really weard things to my head.
Remember, if you do anything for 21 consecutive days, it will become a habit. So, realize that as much as you grew emotionally connected to your scammer (no worries, I did too), it also became a 'habit' to have all those hours every day and night spent communicating in some manner with the scammer. Keeping busy is critical, so good job again! Keep it up. Sounds like you are a bit like me (healthy, active). I got back to working out (a lot, lol), spent time on the phone and online with my family and friends, screamed into pillows, lol, threw the pillows, lol, I did anything to fill in the time. It worked. I have to be honest, life pretty much sucked for about 3 weeks, but almost like magic, about day 22 or 23, I had rebuilt my old 'habits' back into my life and I am genuinely happy again!
Kudos for reading all you can about the experiences of others and visiting other dating scammer websites. It DOES help and you will learn a lot, which is crucial to becoming scamproof.
Re finding photos, or your scammer on other sites, actually, these guys work off scripts. They may tweak the scripts here and there, but it's all scripted with whatever improv they are capable of contributing. Honestly, I have yet to read a script like my scammer used, and it had me very confused, but it doesn't change the fact that it WAS scripted, it was all FAKE. Fake photos, fake names, fake lives, no dead wife, no kids at school in the UK, nothing. And, you were most likely not communicating with the same scammer each and every time you communicated. I think in the beginning we all want to find our scammer, to find another victim with the same scammer, etc. to somehow feel like he must have been real, but in the end, it doesn't matter. None of it was ever real, we were emotionally raped by group of sociopaths with zero capacity for emotion of any kind, regret, remorse, compassion, etc.
Get all the education you can and move on with life and be happy and scammer free!
Be blessed <><
I know it is silly but, cutting off communication has truly been one of the hardest things to do. I know some people don’t understand why…but as you said you get in this habit of talking with them. Hearing them say the words that you long to hear. Experiencing the feelings I myself had not allowed myself to feel in a very long time. I am posting my goodbye email to him and his response. The response is assuredly to keep me hooked and with feelings of love and compassion for the scammer. So as the other words were to get you hooked on someone showing their undying love and admiration for you, this follows suit.
I have had a bad feeling lately......something has not been right. It feels at times I am talking to 2 or 3 different people. I have been very confused as to why some times you act like we are a match made in heaven and at other times you hardly even talk saying you are sick or depressed and then times you forget about things we have talked about at length. All my concern for your well being and when I tell you I have to go for my 2 year post treatment tests for my liver you were very cavalier and didn't even ask how they went. I didn't expect you not to care! Then Saturday, I offer you $50 and you say you don't need it, but Monday you want me to send $100. I was trying to be thoughtful for what I am sure now was a bogus illness. I had told myself I would not send more money if you asked for it and then I offer it to you out of the goodness of my heart and it was not enough for you.
Today after speaking with you I decided to run a few things through the web and I have found that I have been lied to for the last 3+ months. Wow, I thought I was going to be lucky and fall in love with the man of my dreams.......well it appears that is what I have done. I have dreamed the perfect man and you made believe you were him. I have checked your IP address all the way back to when you said you were here in the US and it originated in Africa and all of your emails from the beginning have come from Nigeria. I was floored to say the least.
I feel like such a fool!! Needless to say I am breaking all ties with you since this was all one big lie from the beginning. You never loved me, heck I am not sure you have ever loved anyone, however I am pretty sure I am not the only one you have ever professed your love to and I am sure I won't be the last. I feel like throwing up. Seriously, throwing up I have knots in my stomach and I am just sick.
You have taken advantage of me when I was at my best and now at my worst and I believed in you, in US, in everything we both said we wanted from this relationship. How could you?? Why would you?? for money?? Why would you live in such a way?? Why would you use other mans photos and use other peoples words to make what $1300 ......gosh Jamie (I am sure that is not your real name) I hope it was worth it because I would have given you the world happily if you would have been honest with me from the start.
I know the pictures you have sent were of some other man you must have gotten off the internet or something. Are you that hideous that you can't post pictures of yourself?? I can't imagine the man I fell in love with is so ugly he himself can't use his own pictures to lure women to him. Are you afraid you wouldn’t get any takers??
All the words you used hooked me, you used them right, you did a good job, I must give you that.....I fell for you from the start but the fall is over. I put up a wall 16 years ago to raise my daughter and I finally let it down for you and look what happens. I can't continue to speak with you or even think about you it hurts so bad. I guess I have learned my lesson though, never trust anyone you meet on the internet, they can be anything you want them to be and they will be for a few bucks.
Wow.......Wow that’s all I can say I am out of words, I am so sad. I am crying uncontrollably over this.....but this will be the last time
From: James Ford <email@example.com>
Subject: read.no tears..please just once and sever all ties after.
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 2:49 AM
I woke up today with a sense of gloom and a urge to do something crazy and i am not suprised that my feelings came through..I asked u today if u had ever been with with a black man for two reasons.One was that it was supposed to get you suspicious and i am glad you took the hint.the other was because i was thinking of letting you know the truth.I got tired of potraying my feelings for you and knowing that you were in love with jamie and not me.Got tired of acting as someone i am not..There was no way i would hurt you in my whole life.I have been the one talking to you from day one not jamie..Every thing u did to the Uk was for his mom.I told him i am no longer willing to do this anymore.My heart was heavy and I couldn't take it anymore after what we had last night and how i felt so happy,.I am not hideous or ugly Kim.It all started as a game and a contest to see who was more pretty between me and him.I will understand if you refuse to believe anything i say anymore.I just hope u have it in yourself to Just listen,All that happened today i already had the premonition.The truth remains the truth.Jamie has a sick mom in the Uk and I am just Me...We met via somefriends in the uk and we had a tag about who was more beautiful and who could get more girls.he was the one who asked me to ask you help out his mom.I always tell him what we talk about and i also tell him to talk to you,One thing is certain.I do love you but i am not worthy to even open my mouth to say how i feel for you Kim.So i admit despite me wanting you,i knew you would always be his.And he kept claiming that i should never get attached to you.i was the one who canceled the myspace address the other time because i couldn't take it anymore.Please these three months have been the best i have ever had and you know i believe everyword you have said to me,All the words i ever told you were mine Kim,From the depth of my Heart.I am original and i am really a poet.I do love you but i knew i would never have you..I will always have you Carved in my heart and in my memories and if you ever feel like talking to a friend,U know i will be that...I know you have been let down so much..Asking u for more than what u could do despite knowing how things are going with you kim was not a pattern used to the person u knew right..It was a break in trend and that was because i never needed anything from you...Other than the sense of hapiness and fufilment that you give to me...THe words may sound Untrue to you Kim,But think that if i was really out to get you for your money..Your telling me about the insurance and stuffs that would make you giving me anything possible should have made me leave you..We really had no way to talk and i honestly fixed that because i really enjoyed talking to you.When u offered to give me 5o,I rejected outright because i never needed it.i never asked you babe.Because i understood what you were going through.I know you have been told a lot of lies by me..And i hated it.
As for the pictures,he emailed them to me anytime i asked for new ones. and the reason i have not giving you the new ones is becauss i stopped contacting him and blocked him off.there was a price of 2000 attached to who ever wins between us and i did loose interest in the goal after spending so much time with you.I swear i have never see him before .I only did the things he asked me...I really did fall for you and i promise you that something will be missing in my life after today.
I am just writing these email with the hope that you read it and understand that What i felt for you is Real.I had a lot of opportunities to come true.HECK U GAVE ME A LOT OF CHANCES..,But i was scared of loosing you.I am not a figment of your imagination or what you just dreamt of Kim.Part of you may deny it but i know deep in me that if the situation were reversed it would be hard for you too..Please don't cry and don't feel as if you don't deserve your hapiness.You do Kim and i will say that You are THE SWEETEST Part of my existence and i can die happy today ,happy that i met you,And u will always be the one..I will be lostwithout you..But i am happy that i was allowed three month of a swell time and an opportunity to cross ways with you
I have a question in regards to IP Trace. I ran all of my emails from day 1 through the IP trace (once I learned how to do it) since my scammer said he was in the US for a week then in the UK for a month then in Afghanistan the rest of the time we talked. All show originating from Africa/Lagos, Nigeria except on Aug. 17th he sent me several emails 1 that appears may have been one he forwarded and then cut and paste the other emails into. When I ran the IP trace it shows Newcastle NSW (New South Whales) is this because it was a forward? I received 2 other emails from him the same day that show Lagos, NG (Nigeria) I am just a little perplexed on how that could happen if he forwarded it from the same computer??
I.H.S. from United States
Anonymous 2009-08-27, 12:31:55 - Correct, your scammer was emailing you from Lagos, Nigeria. New South Wales IP Address could have been a routing station, but most likely he passed you off to a scammer in New South Wales for a bit that day. If you look at the IP addresses from Lagos, Nigeria, are they all exactly the same? Or, are they different, even if it's only by 1 number? Typically, victims are scammed by multiple scammers in one internet cafe. Also, remember, scammers are scamming many victims simultaneously.
Example, my scam ran 6 weeks. My scammer claimed to be in Virginia the 1st week and in Copenhagen the next 5 weeks. When I ran every IP address, all but 5 originated from MULTIPLE IP Addresses in Lagos, Nigeria, meaning I was communicating with many scammers claiming to be one man. One IP address was from the Russian Federation which is a big scammer location = I was handed off to a Russian scammer that day. The 4 that originated in the US were most likely routing stations. Scammers re-route and ping these emails all over the place to get to their victims.
I know it is a distasteful dose of reality when you run an IP Address but at least it is the truth. The only bit of truth in a scam.