These pictures were also reported as the following identity:
Name: Maria Wlasowa
Address: Country : Russia
Address: Dubravnaya, 19 - 82
postal code (zip) : 225069
Other Comments: This one is all over the place, here is another photo I didn't find here
After recieving the 'need money' email, the ride was over for me. I responded with this email sent Nov 20, 2007..........................................................................................
Hi Anna Ryseva, or is it Anna Troschewa, or Alina Gabdubarowa, or Irina Gennadevna, or Alyona Pobrez from Angarsk, Russia? I get dizzy with all your names!
You need a $1000 bucks you say.
Well Anna, remember the 'box of rocks' and the initials HL&S written in one of my return emails, well, it stands for, Hook-Line and Sinker!
Let me introduce myself, my name is actually Steve, and I work for a branch of the United States Government that investigates internet fraud. We have conducted surveillance on you since you paid for a personal ad listed with Match.com. We have ways of finding people that would astound you!
Wait till you see what we have in store for you!
Take a look outside your window, see anything suspisious out there?
Yes, before you look outside, please open the attachments we have sent you. The photos of you are not actually of you, but we thought they were cute anyway, but the passport could use a little better touch-up, don't ya think!
Anyway, have a nice day, see ya real soon........Steve
anonymous from United States
i hope we can catch these people so we can get our money back, and put these people in jail.
Eddie from Sweden
Hi guys!...sorry if some of you got scammed. I'm afraid there's very little chance of catching and prosecuting these scammers, although it does happen from time to time. It requires the help of the Russian Federal Police, especially in the Yoshkar Ola area, where there's a fairly high likelihood that the local police force is in on the scam. On top of that, any scam victims must have evidence, eg the money letter, the Western Union receipt and so on. And then you should expect at least one trip to Russia to appear in court and the expense of hiring a Russian lawyer.
In the meantime, if you get spammed by another scammer, feel free to use my scammer-fuck-you copy mail. Attach the clown pic for that subtle added impact. Russian grammar, syntax and curses guaranteed accurate. But don't send the English version becuse they won't read it. (Cyrillic version only works to and from Russian email providers, but not Yahoo, hotmail, gmail)
1) email title: cкамерство!
Пожалуйста, не оскорбляйте мой интеллект. Tы не живете в (название города), ты живете в Yoshkar Ola, преступный город в России. Tы посылаете мне украденные фотографии и копируете письма хуиня. Скоро, Tы будете просить деньги получить визу (невозможный получить без письменного приглашения от меня и билетов, также.)
Поэтому, я сэкономлю тас некоторое время. Пойдите отсюда, чтобы искать честную работу, ты несчастный жулик. Я не имею никакого интереса в ташем cкамерство. Oto'idi, a to jebnu! Idi na khuy!
2) Latin alphabet:
email title: skamerstvo!
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'ajte moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivete v (add name of scammer's city), ty zhivete v Ioshkar-Ola, prestupnyj gorod v Rossii. Ty posylayete mne ukradennyye fotografii i nizkokachestvennyye skopirovannyye pis'ma. Skoro, ty budete prosit' den'gi poluchit' vizu (nevozmozhnyj poluchit' bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot men'a i biletov takzhe.)
Poetomu, ya sekonoml'u tas nekotoroye vrem'a. Pojdite ots'uda, chtoby iskat' chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Ya ne imeyu interes dl'a vashego skamerstvo. Oto'idi, a to jebnu! Idi na khuy!
3) English version (for your benefit only, not the scammer's):
email title: scam business!
Hello vile greedy one!
Please don't insult my intelligence. You don't live in (add name of scammer's city), you live in Yoshkar Ola, a criminal city in Russia. You send me stolen photos and poor-quality copy letters. Soon, you'll ask for money to obtain a visa (impossible to obtain without a letter of invitation from me and tickets as well.)
Therefore I will save you some time. Go from here and seek an honest job, you miserable scammer. I'm not interested in your scamming. Get lost or I'll kick your ass! Fuck you!
This is Stella Johnson the real Stella Johnson, who was using model pictures as a scam online:
Damn, I started looking for information about this girl's hometown (Angarsk) and found this WEB Site. I can not believe it. Her name is not listed but everything seems so similar.
About flying to the US and meet me, etc...
I knew it sounded to good to be true, just as the saying.
I feel like checking how far it gets.
2007-11-24, 21:56:06 (updated: )
[hidden] from United States
These pictures were also reported as the following identity:
Name: Olga Zaika
Other Comments: ave good day. I hope, that you remember me because I have written to you recently on a dating site and you
answered me. I am sorry, I did not write to you back at once.
You see, I live in Russia, and I was busy, organizing all my preparations for travel.
You know, it is my first time when I try the correspondence
with the man in virtual space. I am not so good user Intenet, but I hope that I shall have chance
to meet the good person.I think, that I shall explain to you why I do it. I shall work in
the USA approximately three months or more and I wish to meet a good person to be my guide or be the good
friend with whom I can spend time together when I am in the USA. I think
it is very difficult to live in foreign city without friends and besides I never were
abroad. You know, I live in small city in Russia andI am afraid to be lost in your country.
I also wish to see a real life (not the TV shows), and it is impossible to see a real life without the person, who
knows all parts of a life.
Also I do not wish to live in Russia because I have no opportunities here, it is
hardly possible to explain in a few words, but I want you to know all mine
plans. When being in the USA I shall work in any shop or I shall be the baby sitter in some family. I shall know
details later. Except for that I love English language and it will give me chance
improve my English.The agency helps me to receive the visa, the permission to work
and all travel documents.It is their business, and I shall pay for their Services.
One of my friend worked in the USA for three
months in the past to year, and she loved it very much, and she wishes to repeat this trip again.
She has met the right person in Chicago, and they are good friends now and he will marry her if all will be
good between them. In Russia we have special programs for work in the USA and other countries and I think,
that itis the right way for me. I feel lost here, and I hope, that I shall be able to change my life.
I have many plans and dreams...
I send you my pictures, and I hope, that you like me if we meet in real.
Please tell to me what you think about this.I finish this letter, and I hope, that you write me very soon.
Probably you think, that I am little bit crazy, but I am sure that it is the right way to meet good the man without
meeting personally in a real life and besides knowIt is my first try on the Internet.
I shall leave my city in some days to fly to Moscow again to finish all things for travel. Agency
will arrange this trip for me, and I shall work all the day long and I think, that we can spend evenings together and the know
each other better. If you have any interest to meet me I shall be very happy!!!
I do not want to be lonely in the evenings, and I want to know for sure if somebody waits for someone me! It is just a woman's wish!
I shall tell to you all details about my life and about me later.
If you are also lonely, you can be with me for the few Months or so.... Who knows???!
I found out that I was getting scammed but I haven't sent any money and I won't .
She going by Yulia Kotowa but her real name is Nadezhda Kourlina . She says she from Irkutsk , Russia but she's from either Eniseysk or Krasnoyarsk . She also goes by Alena
Elena . I got lured in by the 11 photo's that she send one which was nude . I found here on another scam site and which I would of checked it out before I gave her my name and number . Man that was DUMB . I've learned my lesson and hopefully that info she got from me won't hurt me .
Eddie from Sweden
anonymous from Coos Bay, United States
Don't worry too much about your name and number. What can the scammers do, call you up? write you a postcard? I'd have been more worried if you'd given them your cc number.
Welcome to any othe newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).
Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!
More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!
So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .
# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.
# scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.
# GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)
# writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.
She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.
There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.
Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.
anonymous from United States
Yes, our 'Olga Zaika' is still in the race. I was sensing it was a fraud and just this morning she said to me that she needed $1000.00 to complete her trip.............ja,ja,ja So I placed her name in the internet and woh, woh!!! here we are. And I was starting to worry myself because she said she was going to arrive this next sunday.......and I already live with my girlfriend in a 1/1 aparment!!!!!!!!ja,ja,ja.
We can't denied she's pretty but she's more fake than a gay breast.