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Name: Natalya
Email: pretty@besthottop.info
Address: Russia,town Osinniki
Voevodina street 49,flat 17

Near big city Novokuznetsk


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2007-08-09, 17:16:16
Fjellhare from Norway  
OJAS from United States

No, I have not seen those posts, sorry.

When he is from Iceland then he is danish, because Iceland belongs to Danmark and the language is danish ( maybe dialect again ) as well, but it shall not be a big problem getting into English. The scandinavian languages are not sooooo different.


'I appreciate your offer to translate from other languages. '


Jepp, no problem, I help if I can and have some time.....BUT I am really happy about the communication in all threats but the 'German'....there I was fedd up ( Sorry ) in only some 'seconds', some people really thing they are 'wordchampions'....I think you got what I mean.....

See you....
2007-08-09, 19:43:44   (updated: 2007-08-09, 19:46:40)
OJAS from United States  
Fjellhare , Norge,

http://www.delphifa..#comments

This thread has a few posts by an angry Icelander. He's bound to counter-attack them.

My heartfelt good wishes to him, and I'll help him in any manner I can.

Jepp

PS I think Iceland, like Norge is an EEA country, has to pay annual money to EU. But Danmark is a EU country. Correct me if I'm wrong.
2007-08-10, 03:02:43   (updated: 2007-08-10, 03:49:32)
Fjellhare from Norway  
OJAS from United States


Okidoki, I followed the postings. I can understand him ( the language ). Now he seams to have some problems, I do not know why, but I will try to help him.

He was a police officer for one year :D

I posted my helping offer in Norwegian, hope he can understand.....wait and see....


Yes you are right with the posted information about Iceland! I have never been there, but it for sure is an interesting place for fishing :D.....yes and fishing is MY life.....sorry, but I am crazy in another way...............


see you
2007-08-10, 08:10:11
OJAS from United States  
@Fjellhare,

I'm happy you've decided to stay with us, and be in the same boat. At one point I was a bit discouraged that you might leave delphi due to personal attacks on you.

It's not always possible to answer physical blows in kind. It's a different situation with mental blows. They not only may, but also must be answered, in kind (whenever the opponent is mentally worthy of it).

Remember if one language posts hit you below the belt, there are many others welcoming you!

I'm thinking the Icelander is the same guy in this thread

http://www.delphifa..#comments

posting 2007-08-09, 03:09:31 ''I love this website, what started to be a search for my 'only one' has turn into scam hunting''

Translate please ''Der Wunsch ist der Vater des Gedankens!''

Jepp
2007-08-10, 15:35:47   (updated: 2007-08-10, 16:07:47)
Fjellhare from Norway  
@ OJAS from United States


I'm happy you've decided to stay with us, and be in the same boat. At one point I was a bit discouraged that you might leave delphi due to personal attacks on you.

Quite easy to explain, I do not like to get 'pissed' (Sorry) from some Germans, I really hate them when visiting any place I was so far, they can German only....and expect all to understand them....fuck off....that was reason for more than 7 years learning Norwegian, before I had plans settle over to here....because I really was not interested being a 'tourist'....I like to be a German with the positive things..........but the rest...for the rest....
It was an italian girl that made my staying.....


It's not always possible to answer physical blows in kind. It's a different situation with mental blows. They not only may, but also must be answered, in kind (whenever the opponent is mentally worthy of it).

Jepp you are right, but people who know me will never ever write such things, because off the strong respect they have and it doen´t matter if I am in Norway, Spain, Germany, Danmark, Italy or where ever....it really doesn´t matter who I am this threat...but I am not used AND I will not take it/except it.....


Remember if one language posts hit you below the belt, there are many others welcoming you!

Of course, but it is really disappointing, if it is (in) your native language....and with thousands of mistakes.....horrible......BRAINLESS...that moments I really do not want to be a German.....


I'm thinking the Icelander is the same guy in this thread

http://www.delphifa...#comments

posting 2007-08-09, 03:09:31 ''I love this website, what started to be a search for my 'only one' has turn into scam hunting''

I will read it later on....


Translate please ''Der Wunsch ist der Vater des Gedankens!''

Aaaaalter Falter....are you a German :D ????

Puh, I do not know....I even do not know the English :-((( though I was at an English university.......I think you CANNOT translate......but I will not pass :D but ask a Norwegian girl-friend this weekend......

see you.... and do not worry I try to stay and post when I have some time in this summer......sure more in winter.......

Jepp jepp

Jepp


I called her: there is no translation possible...sorry.....they do not know it and a littery (?) is nonsense...


see you
2007-08-10, 15:59:09
Fjellhare from Norway  
The link is not working....

I must add something, I am sure you are not the person you want us to notice.....you ask why....it is the intuition of someone who is out after seatrout......maybe you can not understand, but I am sure you got it allready....
2007-08-11, 03:46:04
Fjellhare from Norway  
@ OJAS from United States


there is no need to be angry....I am thinking of a kind of 'wise' man you are....

gone fishing....
2007-08-12, 21:11:37
anonymous from Egypt  



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2007-08-16, 09:17:16   (updated: 2007-08-16, 09:21:04)
anonymous from United States  
Seems they don't even read responses to their emails!

MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: from mailzervis.net ([81.29.241.9]) by bay0-mc3-f1.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:53:56 -0700
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Hello my dear Mxxx, thank you for your answer!
At first I think I have to say that I am new in internet and I have only good
intentions.
you should know that I am not very good writer in english, please be patient to
read my
messages and see many mistakes. to be fair I don't know what you want to know
about me,in principle
I am usual girl.I think I should tell you about me, my interests,tastes and
hobbies.I think I will tell you
about things I want to know about you and you will know my future questions.
I am 25 years old,my birthday is Desember, 25, 1981. I so much don't want to
get older ,when I can see old women I am
getting crazy to think that it is my future .I do all the best to keep my youth
and I keep my body well.In spite of all
difficultes here I am trying to be in good condition and I do a lot of exercises
to be in good shape!
I am about 172 cm tall (5.6) and my weight is about 56 kg. I've been told I look
well enough ,
and I think that all women have own beaty. I have never been married and I don`t
have children.
I have one youngest sisters and it is great problem for us because we have only
two rooms flat.you can't imagine what does it mean to be born
in small town in Russia,there are not any chances to live well,to get a good
job.All young people leave towns to search
great luck in big cities but nobody waits for them there. I want to leave
Russia,I know it sounds ugly but I know that I
will be lost here like many young girls before me. It is not place to grow
children and have stable future.I want to meet my right man .
I think in future I can work as fitness trainer I have a certificate. My mother
is my great problem too,she has a great dream to see me
married and she wants to make me happy but I think it is only my business I am
not a little child. She tells me every day
that I should get married very soon... To be fair I am not sure I am able to
explain all in first message I
want to say so much! I just want you to know that I am not afraid to work,I am
fairly goal
oriented and I am sure you will be not disappoined to meet me in real life.I am
going to spend three months
abroad to work in any good place,agency promises to help me because it is only
the way I can leave Russia.I will have all documents
to travel in a few days and i will travel to moscow then,from moscow I will
travel to you and they ask me about name of the city i am going to work,
if you don't mind to meet me please tell me the name of your city and nearest
international airport! I will book my flight from moscow!
I think it would be so great to meet my love and stay there forever.I know that
it is not so easy like I think but I think it is possible that I meat my real
love.
I want to love and to be loved I want to build our own happiness,only me and my
man there. I don't smoke,I tried to smoke when I was younger.
I may have a glass of red dry vine,sometimes it helps to relax. I try to take
care of my body and face. I know it is all I have.
My soul may have any itnterst for you later, I thinkso.I am not a little girl
and I know that at first almost all men look
at body ,legs and face.God created males such persons. Well,I think I am lost in
my letter,I am not sure you
understand my goals,please feel free to ask.
I live in Russia,town Belovo, Lenina street 9, flat 37 ,it is near big city
Kemerovo.
My town is rather far from Moscow. Moscow is a capital of my country. I want you
to reply if you understand my mind,my intentions,my soul,if
not please reply too, I will continue my searching. Well, I will close this
letter,I think you are tired to read
it.and If you think that I should write shorter letters please tell me. I write
from internet cafe in
Kemerovo because there are not cafes and possibility to use internet in my small
town,we have 4 digital phone number and we
can't call abroad.Even to call in any big town here in Russia I have to order
the call in advance.and I would like to say
please don't worry if I keep silence sometimes I have no time to travel ,it is
about 25 minutes by bus from my town till Irkutsk
Please tell me more about you,your tastes,likes and dislikes .also I have a few
impotant questions do you
like strong drinks too much?can you be very drunk?very ofthen?can you be rude
with women?
Well,I have to stop or I will write without ending.Kiss you !see you later. In
my next e-mail I will write you more things about myself and
more details about my trip and work. I will miss you, your Margarita



>
> Well the reason I asked where you found my information is so I
> could remove it. You might find it interesting or well known that
> the IP adresses shown in your email routing are known for dating
> scams, as is the email providers you have used. As for me I have a
> relationship, I'm not in the market and certainly know how to read
> an email header. Thanks for the pictures though. - Mxxx
>
>
>

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> From: Margarita <ritulia@freemailserve.biz>
> Reply-To: Margarita <ritulia@freemailserve.biz>
> To: Mxxx
> Subject: Re: Check Out My Profile
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:31:56 +0600
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> Received: from mailzervis.net ([81.29.241.9]) by
> bay0-mc10-f4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Tue, 14
Aug 2007 06:08:17 -0700
> Received: (qmail 18237 invoked by uid 89); 14 Aug 2007 20:47:18 -0000
> Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.100.1.9?) (83.149.87.156) by
> mail.mailzervis.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2007 20:47:17 -0000
>>Hi my new friend
>>Im glad to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very short letter.
>>It is all right because you are astonished to get my letter.
>>I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any
secrets.
>>The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so and
>>I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest friends.
>>I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,
>>it is hardly possible to explain from first time but I want you to know my
plans.
>>I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going through
will suggest me some locations.
>>It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
>>So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can choose any
>>town of your area,agency will only help me to get a visa and all travel
documents + some suggested placed to work in.
>>My best friend last year met the man from the USA when she worked there for
three months, too.
>>She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park and
after it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight.
>>She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
>>It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I think
it is the right way for me ,
>>I am lost here,and I think that I look pretty enough to find a better place .I
want to repeat the same way,it is
>>only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or any
>>nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to share my
>>life with good man because I'm also full of love and tenderness,I know that
>>I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my Prince
and
>>I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life! This is
why I am going to go through the same way.
>>Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
>>I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything exactly
>>right now) and I would like tobe sure that I have the man who waits for me
there. I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all free time
>>together to get to know each other better.if you have any interest to meet me
I will be more than happy to meet you too.
>>I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my pictures and
>>want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
>>I write to you with my new mailbox ritulia@freemailserve.biz, please write
>>letters now only on this mailbox.
>>I will wait your next letter.
>>Kiss you , Margarita (this is my name)!
>>
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>> > Where was my profile?
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>> >
>> > From: Amber <amber@theamericanmail.info>
>> > Reply-To: amber@theamericanmail.info
>> > To: leontine_born@hotmail.com
>> > Subject: Check Out My Profile
>> > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:10:08 -0700
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > Received: from kllkfdjgklfr.com ([190.142.58.129]) by
>> > bay0-mc4-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, 3
Aug 2007 13:15:51 -0700
>> >
>>
>> > Good Morning
>> > my name is Amber, i noticed your profile online and as wondering if you
would like to chat
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> > Tease your brain--play Clink! Win cool prizes!
>>



> Tease your brain--play Clink! Win cool prizes!

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2007-08-17, 04:07:16
anonymous from Luxembourg  
Just check the IP ADDRESS with IP-address.com

These mails come out of AMSTERDAM The Netherlands.
I just got this with the same pictures as Dating scammer Oksana Kouznetsowa
Dating scammer Evgenija Hlebutina
Dating scammer Evgenija Hlebutina
Dating scammer Ekaterina Rozhentsova

Her name in this one is MAYA. Its all the same old shit and immediately recognizeable as a scammer. There are no women behind this, this is some porno twat mafia types out of Amsterdam, home of everything really dodgy, with ten computers out of the back room cross referencing and filching all for what they can, and they are getting away with it, shame we cant send zapper rays to burn their hard drives and blow all their connections, sod them,

Maya <saew_81@yahex.net> wrote:

> Hello!!! It was very nice to receive a message from
> you!
> it is my first time I try to correspondence with man
> in internet world.
> I do hope you will be enough patient to understand
> my writing.
> I want you to know that I have only good intentions
> and I don`t have
> big secrets.The thing is that I will work abroad for
> three months or so and I would
> like to meet a nice man to be my guideor just be
> good friend to spend time with.I think that it is
> hard enough to live in foreign town without friends
> and also I have never been abroad. I am from so
> small
> town here in Russia,I am afraid to be lost. I want
> to see real life and it is impossible to see without
> person who knows all sides of the life.
2007-08-17, 05:34:17
anonymous from Germany  
To Luxembourg: No, the IP-adress does not proof anything nowadays. They learned to hide and to fake their real origin. If you like you can read a discussion about that here:
http://www.delphifa..#comments

The capital city for this special scam is still Yoshkar-Ola, Republic Mari-El, Russia.

If you are further interested follow this thread and the included links:
http://www.delphifa..5#comments
2007-08-17, 10:54:14
drod from United States  
Luxembourg,

I agree with Germany. They use proxy/socks servers to hide their location. Some even appear to come from the USA.

And most of the scams are MEN, using stolen photos to pose as women.

good hunting..........drod
2007-08-17, 13:26:19
anonymous from Netherlands  
Agree.
But they have a proxy/socks-server in Amsterdam or/and Rotterdam!!!!!! Can't prove it, yet (!), but it is there!

2007-08-17, 16:23:29
'S' from United States  
It doesn't matter what country you/they are in,the way they work is after installed they will search for an IP at random nad place it in the header.Check out Hide-my-IP.com for some insight.You can use it as well,which is a good idea if you bait them.


SNT...
2007-08-19, 12:47:16
O from United States  
Luxumbourg,

I fully understand your initial reaction. When my natal countrymen find offending proxy addresses in my adopted country, they frequently attack in their e-mails, my present country. However after settling down calmly they are able to realize it's not my countrymen, living in my country, and scamming for a living.

I should like to believe a scammer living in Amsterdam, finding a victim in Luxumbourg, will soon be in jail.

But these one-level sophisticated scammers live in Russia, and hide behind Europrean and American Servers, because they are also cowards.

They are called ''merdes sans frontières''
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