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Here's Julia from St. Petersburg, Russia. Her e-mail adyy is firstname.lastname@example.org. I'm currently talking to here. Have anyone of you received any letters from her or whoever it is? Let me know. I know it's a scam and I'm just playing along. I'll let you know when she starts to ask me for money. I'm just playing hard to get.
thanks very much for your assistance and for your help.
anonymous from United States
I too have been in contact with a Nataliya Kachanova from Kropotkin Russia She (IT) hasn't gotten to the ( I need money ) yet but the big hairy man sending the emails isn't getting any from me. What can be done to pay back these ass holes?
We don't speak pidgin here. Your scammer-friendly English (scamlish) is a dead give away. Your day job is likely with Russian mafia. Does moonlighting with scammers bring supplemental income?
Since you aver ''she'' is not a scammer, why not request a post of every money-letter this inhuman being sends? You will of course send ''her'' every time, your own money.
Interested in learning English? Many posters will happily point to sources, and free of charge. Even you could one day become smart enough to find an honest job.
No need to flaunt your idiocy so blatantly, if you are struggling to take your first step in the direction of honesty. Anyway congratulations if honesty is your intention.
Or, are you offended that moron is an over-estimation of your intelligence? Then make it imbecile.
You sure can do cut / paste. But you don't enjoy monopoly in c/p. Others can do it too;
And in Cyrillic for you,
Иди на хуи!
anonymous from Sweden
anonymous from United States ...nice try, but there's no point in writing in English, it'll be lost on them. Almost nobody in Russia speaks English, not even in Moscow. If they could, they'd be able to get a good job and wouldn't need to scam. Plus your language is somewhat subtle and advanced (and ironic), even for an English speaker. And if you're writing to a yahoo address, which more and more Russian scammers seem to be using these days, your parting phrase in cyrillic will come out as gobbledegook.
You should translate it to Russian and make it more basic, cyrillic if you're writing to a mail.ru address or using outlook express etc...latin alphabet if you're writing to or using yahoo or hotmail etc.
imtranslator.com does the business, and you can checkit makes sense using the back translator.
Thanks for your suggestions, and your points are well taken.
As a new entrant in this arena, being driven by pesonal experiences, I'll need a lot of time to learn.
1) Language style - Same as I use for a living, and demanded of me by a Russian girl, (as articulate as Irina in the thread http://www.delphifa..?p=1#29195 ) in our correspondence. She wanted no ''language mercy'', just because she's a Russian. But the best bonding factor was our poverty, and the ultimate winner, ... poverty. And yes, It was a real girl, seeking genuine relationship.
2) It hurts to see these scammers butchering my language for extra pleasure, over and above their main profession.
3) As for scammers, my good friends (of course after first defining that word for me) said, I'm not their only target. It is a billion dollar industry. And the b in the billion in not a typo. You'll understand the outrage of newcomers feel against it.
4) A friend educating me said ''the scammer aims for the largest organ of a victim - the heart'', ''you are aiming for the smallest (and the weakest) organ of a scammer - the brain'' - ''you have a challenging task even finding your target... good luck''
5) My post was aimed at a scammer-phile (likekly from the omnipresent Russian mafia) with US flag. I thought at least he would be rich enough to afford arial unicode font, and appreciate the Cyrillic effort from the bottom of my heart!
6) I agree with you, on saving the Cyrillic for scammers' e-mails with top domains from Russia, Belarus, Ukraine.
I once again appreciate your keyborad time, and understanding that this new comer has a long way to go.
My friend called objecting to the phrase ''omnipresent Russian mafia''.
I stand corrected. Even scammers are afraid of Zimbabwe - Thanks Mugabe.
Sweden, how does imtranslate compare with google translator & babelfish Altavista?
Skeet from United States
Yewa Eddie,they are BUT,I have recently noticed ALOT using Gmail.Especially Ukrainians! 7 out of 10 recent msg's to my 'profile' used Gmail,5 were Ukrainians! I've read about Gmail regarding IP's and how it doesn't show them the same!? I've used it for baiting and never had a problem so I don't know the premise behind it.It's been brought up at Romancescams and RD.
Im translator is much better than both yahoo and babelfish (especially babelfish, which really sucks), particularly for Russian. I'm not sure but i think it's Russian software. You'll have to start an account but it's free. You'll also have to fiddle with your language a bit, for example homographs will be a bit confusing and you may get an incorrect context if you use one.
i can speak a bit of Russian and understand its anomalies, but I can't write cyrillic so I use the translator. My girlfriend said that it works pretty well, and i don't think she was just flattering me. It´s also a good way of breaking the ice with a Russian girl, they are always very impressed that you took the trouble to write to them in Russian, and a good scam filter because most scammers don't even read the mail and write back without even reacting to the fact that you'd written to them in Russian (works every time). a real russian girl ALWAYS reacts, of course.
If you haven't seen it before, here's one of my fuck-you-scammer form mails, the one that I send before I've even got the money letter and can't be bothered any more. Scammer usually reacts to this one.
(Russian version, non-cyrillic)
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'ajte moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivete v (name of city), ty zhivete v Yoshktar Ola, prestupnyj gorod v Rossii. Ty posylayete mne ukradennyye fotografii i pis'ma kopii khu'in'a. Skoro, ty budete prosit' den'gi poluchit' vizu (nevozmozhnyj poluchit' bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot men'a i biletov takzhe.)
Poetomu, ya sekonoml'u tas nekotoroye vrem'a. Pojdite ots'uda, chtoby iskat' chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Ya ne imeyu interes dl'a vashego skamerstvo. Oto'idi, a to jebnu. Idi na khuy!
Please do not insult my intelligence. You don't live in (name of city), you live in Yoshktar Ola, a criminal city in Russia. You send me stolen photos and low-quality copy letters. Soon, you'll request money to obtain a visa (impossible to obtain without a letter of invitation from me and tickets as well.)
Therefore, I will save you some time. Go from here to seek an honest job, you miserable swindler. I'm not interested in your scam business. Get lost or I'll kick your ass. Fuck you!
the insults mudozvon, oto'idi a to jebnu and idi na khuy are all genuine Russian slang and translated approximately. i have a lot more where those came from and a lot worse.
PS your friend is right of course, there are scammers all over the world, the philippines, the US. they busted one in northern Sweden 2 years ago, can't have been very good cos they managed to trace his IP.
Skeet, I've never seen a Russian scammer using gmail, but I'll take your word for it. i'm not sure how to read and IP for a gmail, but I'm sure it can't be too difficult.
Imtranslator is better. With Spanish I get: Mother of agreeable and nice Scammer
and with Russian: Mum of the informer, good and cool
(which is why I use 'swindler', not scammer when translating into Russian = zhulik)
as regards conversion rates, that's pretty much it. In Yekaterinburg, my girlfriend earned about $1370 a month net working as an economist in a bank, which is not bad. In Moscow and St Petersburg, they can earn more. But in Ulyanovsk where she lives now, she earns a little over $500 a month as a financial manager in a trading company. Luckily she owns her apartment, doesn't pay rent and can scrape by.
anonymous from Sweden
PS...OJAS...I had no real question really. I have seriously never received a scam mail with gmail.