hey all i have to say is she isstill good looking and if you ask 4 nuds she has them too lol she is such a loser
Eddie from Sweden
To any newcomers who find this thread, via Google or whatever...please read this..
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS AND RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
If several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, Mari-El Republic, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .
# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, her dream is to visit you, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first!
# scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did. (except for Moscow career girls)
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). Think with your brain.
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise (overuse?). A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a photo set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting sleazy pics will only attract cheap guys.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her when you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop is quite common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes everyday in English. How does she have time to write long letters in English if she's working? If she doesn't have a job, how can she then afford a computer? Most Russians outside of Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. What's the point of finding a girl if you can't communicate with her, at least on a basic level? And if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account, like gmail, yahoo, etc?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger.
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, but IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY! She can get a sponsored visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself....INCLUDING A LETTER FROM HER EMPLOYER! All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries...the USA and Canada are almost as complicated. Anyway, a normal tourist visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Be realistic.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional. There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers. One or two (mostly in the Ukraine) are not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot.
But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. And if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know, you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to go and get them. Chercher la femme.
anonymous from Canada
Be vey carfull on this scammers,,,,here is another pictures,,,,they use the same messeges over and over,,,,,
Yep guys is sad to say that but this 'somebuddy' is nobuddy but a scammer you don't realy don't want to meet, she or he is not a proffesional scammer but a loser like somebuddy os said so, she or he as sended to me same e-mails same pictures like some of you guys and I as been asking to myself the berysame questions like you guys, since I'm from other country also I know all the caind of papers this USA goverment will ask you for so that makes you think and by deduction find out this girl or guy is a Scammer.
By the way god (Jesus Christ) can tell you in your heart this also, like he did to me. May god bless you. Atn: Vitorino.
Cuidado muchachos no se dejen engañar, esta persona es alguien que en realidad tu no quieres conocer, porque como dice alguien en uno de estos comentarios esta persona es una perdedora o perdedor que quiere hacer dinero a costa de TU bolsillo y no trabaja realmente asi que cuidado por favor, yo he recibido los mismos e-mails y las mismas fotos asi es que si más de una persona tiene esto es por que esta persona realmente es un fraudulento un timador, o una timadora.
De hecho dios (Jesucristo) te puede decir en tu corazón si esto es verdad o falso asi como El me lo revelo a mi antes de encontrar este Web, asi que cuidado y que dios te saga bendiciendo Atte: victorino.
that's right, the very same messages over and over:
The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).
Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses, and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter. They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait.
Furthermore, the majority of Russian scammers nowadays use proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!
Thank you Eddie for your comentaries about all this buch of scammers and thank you also for the link the one you placed in this web I just finish reading it.
This is for everyone:
By same way I'm placiing this link is about a list of a bunch of fake profiles of Scammers, please note this: this is a club and I just finnded it by accident, so please don't think like I'm trying to hook you up with this club, this is only for your information.
Also I'm adding this other link so you can report a scam www.eecl.org and also you can learn more about this matter.
Has always god bless you. (NEVER GIVE UP JESUS DIDN'T)
anonymous from Mexico
pablo, please yo no estoy en el error.
anonymous from Mexico
soy alexander gonzalez, se lo mando a pablo o fjellhjare, y gracias por tus comentarios, mando mi correom y la verdad no me defraudo esta persona olga o o quien sea, me envio muchos emails. y la verdad no le hice caso, pero me llama la atencion , porque hace esto....., no lo se.. pero gracias amigo pablo de estados unidos.. saludos---
anonymous from United States
Bngo! Exact same letters. but different picture, see the following:
anonymous from United States
Cuidado con esta PERRA a mi me dejo mucho mensajes y ahora me doy cuenta que lo unico que quiere es dinero aqui les mando una de las tantas fotos que me envio