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Dating scammer Ele ( from Kirov


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Real pretty Scammer.
Watch out !!!

She is using the Name Ele
She says she is a Dentist and she is from Kirov.
The email she is using right now is

Watch out !!!

Thanks for the site guys !!!


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2007-07-30, 09:02:32
anonymous from United States  
Anon Italia, (post 2007-07-29, 00:43:28)

If Italy is a Schengen country, Eddie has informative posts, you will find out how many euros to expect

2007-07-30, 10:18:18
Simple Arithmetics:

A Scammer criterion

The first money-letter has only 3 digits regardless of dollar, euro, or pound
The leading digit preferred by scammers is between 4 and 9; The remaining digits random, tho usually the least significant is 0

Regardless of the above currency, a Russian girl requires 4 digits in her money-letter; A real girl will be honest, shy, but not afraid to discuss all 4 digits with her potential future partner.

Scam Velocity

Scammer has to quickly fall in love with victim fearing,

1) Victim may find genuine love, before the one, two punch arrives
2) The tenure of an Internet Datesmen as novice or naïve is extremely brief
3) He may learn to google and find the scammer
4) A competetive scammer may beat ''her'' to the same victim
2007-07-30, 12:41:56
Eddie from Sweden  
that's basically it anon USA
...if the scammer asked for the full amount required, say for an unsponsored trip to the USA, 3000/4000 USD, they would obviously scare the shit out of the vic. Better to keep it small and make it all sound very easy. For 500 bucks you too can have a gorgeous, sexy Russian girl in your bed within two weeks....or at least, another money letter asking for more.

I can tell you that most honest Russian girls are rather proud and not especially happy about accepting money that they can't pay back.
2007-07-30, 13:16:40
Eddie (post 2007-07-30, 12:41:56)

A scammer apparently ''underbids'' a real girl.
A scammer is a disgrace to honest Russian girls.
A scammer projects a very bad image of his own country.
Burnt foreigners become suspicious of every girl, who in turn may never have heard of scam.
There are Russian posts on this site, apologizing for the scams from their country.
I feel bad for these posters.
2007-07-30, 13:58:02
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous 2007-07-30, 13:16:40

agreed, agreed, agreed, but when the average wage in a shithole like Yoshktar Ola is $150/200 a month, 'it's either poverty of larceny' as one scammer wrote to me. And they also justify their crimes by saying that they are only scamming from 'sexually perverted muzhiks' and sex tourists, or stealing back money from the USA that the oligarchs stole from Russia...blablabla.

Anyway, it's one reason that I post here. I have met 3 very nice Russian girls in person via the Internet, attractive, educated, and who spoke reasonable English. I get sad when guys post stuff like 'russian bitches' cos it's not true, and if they had taken a little more time and care to check up on their 'Russian bitches', and hadn't expected a pretty girl to drop in their laps for a pittance, they wouldn't have got burnt.
2007-07-30, 15:22:16
Skeet from United States  
I keep saying Drod has a good eye! Seem's to be eagle eyes,an 'old'one but an eagle! LMAO


Kiddin ya know!
2007-07-30, 17:30:44   (updated: 2007-07-30, 17:57:23)
drod from United States  
Just trying to hold up my end, asking no rewards, just the company.

But really does any one agree:

Smoking: never

Alcohol: occasional

Kids: none

This is not an accident. Someone somewhere with psychology background said 'that's what you need in a profile.

In the female profile, they must have the appearance of virginity, purity. It stimulates the male mind as well as the body.

The male profiles for women go the other direction. The focus being on widowed with children, bringing out the maternal instinct in the potential female victim.

That's why this and every other scum/scam site is out there.


And 'old'?????? Well, I am one day older than I was yesterday, 'S'........LMAO

good hunting..............drod

BTW, is she just holding it for someone, and the pack too!!!!???
2007-07-31, 15:49:15
anonymous from United States  
I said in
After currency symbols if you see only 3 digits she is scamming. (Too much for visa alone, too little if you add air-fare to U.S.)

I added up U.S. visa cost $100 and pony express only a nominal courier charge.

I like to take this post as an example


I call her a scammer because she's asking too much for test 1, too little for test 2

Eddy departs taking further steps in the process

Round trip train fare to Moscow or Sankt Petersburg from her city
Overnight stay in a YMCA
During interview show means of support. It is at this stage he already takes the money past 4 digits, even before adding the air-fare.

According to his arithmetic, the same girl is asking too little and therefore a scammer - and Eddie has rejoined the camp.

He has nice posts arriving at the same 4 digit visa requirement if euro is the currency, and visa is Schengen

Without even bothering to workout the arithmetic, I know if the currency is UK pound, 4 digit requirement must be met, else she is scamming.
2007-07-31, 16:19:05
anonymous from United States  
Anyone able to interpret these scammer phrases?

Internal Visa
External Visa
Visa for Manchester

I only understand Visa, Visa for UK

2007-07-31, 18:35:41
Skeet from United States  
Drod,ME TOO! {unfortunatly} LOL But you are so right about the profile's! Although some do have a 'glass of dry red vine' on special occation's.LOL I just replied on another thread about kid's though and I've had 3 that cliamed to have one{I have pic's}and one who said her 7-8 y/o daughter had died of cancer,leading to her divorce! But 99% ofthe time they don't but want to start 'the family'.

She's not there...
2007-07-31, 20:15:02
drod from United States  
Anon USA,

Regarding visa,

Internal (ie, Russia, document with the grey background/Ukraine, with the hand written document), within their country travel papers.

External visa/international passport (Russia, reddish background/Ukraine, typed text)
both say PASSPORT above photo.

Eddie, please correct if I'm mistaken.

good hunting.......drod
2007-07-31, 20:29:32
anonymous from United States  
Thanx drod,

I forgot to mention these:

Internal Passport
External Passport

Again, I know just Passport
2007-08-01, 08:47:34
anonymous from Sweden  
Drod and Skeet, exactly right!

The Russian Federation includes quite a few countries, so they have two separate passports, the internal one (which also can function as national ID) for a trip to say Uzbekistan, and the 'external passport' for trips everywhere else. some of the Russian federation countries require visas even from Russian citizens (Chechnya etc)

Ironically, security precautions at Moscow Sheremetyevo domestic terminal are 2x as tight as they are at the international terminal because of the terrorist problem....3!! security checks.
2007-08-01, 11:43:08
anonymous from Canada  
Well this girl has been doing the same to me but she is now using the name Irina so watch your selfs. She even used all the same photos.
2007-08-01, 12:17:02
anonymous from United States  
Eddie, drod, Skeet - Thank you all.

I'll no longer be caught unawares with these terms for a possible money-ride

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