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2007-08-26, 09:05:25   (updated: )
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2007-08-26, 09:08:41
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Hi, is very glad to see your answer to my short message. To tell the truth, did not expect, that you so
soon will answer.
I thought, that I shall not interest you. Ask to excuse me if my letter will be not absolutely clear for you.
I not the master to write letters, especially it is my first experience of dialogue through the Internet,
and I worry slightly.
Plus to all my English not so good, because I from Russia from Kazan !
You were confused probably with that fact, that I the girl from Russia!
Simply I am poorly familiar with the Internet and it is possible at registration have made something not so.

I shall try to write more simply and clearly. My name is Tanya and i am 28 years old! In my profile I have
briefly written about myself.
But I think it a little for the beginning acquaintances, and I shall write more.
If you will be interested with any questions on me ask and do not hesitate.
I use the Internet to acquaint from the person from other country! I do not know to what will result our
acquaintance on the Internet...
I simply want to find persons as a hobby which would understand me! I might not find love in Russia. But I
hope for the best!
If you the serious loyal, kind and strong person I should be pleased to continue our correspondence .

I shall tell about my city slightly! It is very old city! Because it is possible to tell about this city
hours! Here it is a lot of sights, and also entertaining complexes.
If you want to find out about my city you may find out about Kazan in the Internet.
According to the official version basing last archeologic data, the city was based in 1005.
The first mention in Russian annals in 1177. Large city of Kazan became from second half of 13 centuries.

I was never married earlier, I have no children,
Nevertheless I am disturbed by it in Internet a lot of dangerous.
I have received news from my girlfriends, that it is a lot of girls furiously
leave in your country and will carry out hold them furiously in slavery!
Therefore I shall be very cautious, I ask to forgive me if I have offended you. I only want to find correct
persons.
As I understand, that between us there is a big distance, and we may not meet each other at once, therefore
we should be with each other extremely frank.
So we may understand faster, that we want from each other.


I work as the chief accountant in fund of pension for us in Kazan! I work at this work of 6 years.
It is possible to inform, I began to work there directly after the endings of studying at university!
I live one, I, mum with daddy has died. Daddy has died, two years back, both mum have died year and two months
back because of problems with heart.
They have left to me an apartment in which I live in full loneliness.
I not spoiled and very serious girl. In my heart it - is a lot of kindness and tenderness which does not find
to itself an output.
I like to prepare and love to hold the house clean. Parents from the childhood have learned me to independence.
At the description of me it is direct with several words, I d speak I am very real and natural.
Being false - not mine. I do not love envy and meanness.
Very painfully, when the person establishes you the ambassador your opening your soul to him,
I am a patient girl, it is a little ecsentric, each day new, unique.
I like to be to keep in contact with interesting, strong persons.


I search the correct person. He ripened and is independent, knows when to be serious and when to have an
entertainment.
He may estimate attention of the woman, his care and like to the person.
He knows how to address from ladies and to love it.
I assume, whether I find this person, I shall fall in love.
On it I shall finish, to me it is necessary to go to do some work on the house.
I shall look forward to hearing from you. I hope to you, liked.
I shall apply a photo to this letter for you!
Tanya !
2007-08-26, 09:32:14
anonymous  
2007-08-27, 03:12:40
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Message 2 from my 'darling' Tanya! Will write to 'her' more to see what else she reveals! At least she is using my name now. I notice the pictures were taken in 2004, so no doubt being used elsewhere!

Hi my dear,***** today excellent day because I have received your answer and I do not hide the pleasure.
I was interesting to learn about you little bit more try to understand everything, that you write,
I think at me not badly it turns out.
Today for me there was clearer that you like me, I with interest read each line of your letter.
I as try to tell to you everything, that it is possible to tell in the letter. For me it is very important to
write to you as much as possible and as it is possible more frankly.
I shall begin with that I shall give you the greater visual representation about me. My growth of 170 sm and
weight of 49 kg. I not so high and at me a good figure.
I like to watch myself by means of employment fitnes. I visit sports a hall two times, per one week on a free
time.
I very much love walks or jogs especially in the summer and in the spring when at us it is warm. Frequently I
go to play tennis or badminton.
Usually in the winter I like to go on a skating rink or simply I put on a ski and I go to our pine grove.
There very clean and fresh air.
In general at us in Russia it is a lot of places where pleasantly it is possible to have a rest on a nature.
Our cities a little than differ from yours, it is a lot of machines and a lot of vanity. I in general
travelled on Russia, because of lack of time and means a little.
I spoke you, that I work in a pension fund as the chief accountant. My task to keep up registration of the
important papers.
As I keep up receipt and the charge of means which act in fund from the state.
My task to look after, that all older persons in time received the pension.
I frequently get tired at work and when home forces only suffice I I come to be going for supper. In days off
I like to go in a bar or at cinema.
We meet with girlfriends and we solve that we shall do, sometimes we simply make walk.
We in settlement have not enough entertainments, practically there is no place to go. I hope at you with it
business is much better.
How you like to spend your free time? In what your work consists, it as is interesting to me.
When I at home, I like to listen to music and to read, I am closer to evening look TV, I prefer documentary
films and serials more.
I like to read magazines and newspapers!
From fiction I love novels and detectives. My loved author Dasha Doncova! From genres of cinema I like a
drama, a comedy and mysticism.
At us in Russia we as may look and foreign films including English programms.
I like films ' the House from sand and a fog ', ' the Vanilla sky ', ' Forest Gump ', 'Omen666'!
You have any preferences in it? And I want to ask you, you have there Russian films if yes what you saw that?
Still I very much like to prepare I very much I love Russian and Italian kitchen, am especial to me like a
spaghetti and macaroni with ketchup!
I can prepare for everything the main thing that the recipe was, and you may be going. I like when the man is
able to prepare well.
In general I think that the woman should watch children and behind the house, and on kitchen the owner should
be the man.
Life in Russia was now improved but nevertheless does not represent something over natural. Problems with
workplaces and with duly payment of wages.
As a whole it is possible to tell what to live in Russia still hardly. You probably interests why I have
decided to address to the Internet to find love?
In general people in Russia are unpredictable and may make spontaneous actions sometimes. Probably to some
extent it concerns and to me.
I simply operated spontaneously but simultaneously with the concrete serious purpose.
Probably all that I wanted to write it to you today. I hope to you it will be interesting.
And certainly In general to me would like to learn more about you directly what your character of a habit that
you like that are not present?
I shall wait your answer with impatience!
Yours faithfully yours Tanya!

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2007-08-27, 07:44:02
anonymous from United States  
Anon UK,
Does ''Tanya'' have a dating profile claiming to live in UK?
You may have already Copied and saved ''her'' profile, and ''her'' pics from the site. Once the site realises facts, the profile may disappear for good!

Have a nice day!
2007-08-27, 08:59:22
Eddie from Sweden  
good point anon from USA.

Tracing the IP I get:

organisation: ORG-CIL2-RIPE
org-name: Cable Internet Ltd
org-type: LIR
address: Telewest Broadband, 4 Bankhead Avenue
Bankhead Industrial Estate
address: KY7 6JG
address: Glenrothes, Fife
address: United Kingdom
phone: +44 (0)2920305411
fax-no: +44 (0)2920305377
e-mail: hostmaster@cableinet.net

I've never known a Russian scammer using a proxy server in Scotland!!...and I don't think you can have a proxy server on cable internet anyway. It could be anon from UK's IP address. And the originating IP turns out to be the Russian email service, Rambler.

I find the address header very confusing. Is the scammer in Scotland? or a forged IP? Answers on a postcard please to...Boris in Yoshkar Ola.

anyway, it confirms a 100% scam
2007-08-27, 09:05:53
Eddie from Sweden  
For any newbies on this thread, here are a few of the many dozens of Russian dating scam signs. If your Boris fulfils several or more of these criteria, I also have a 'fuck off I'm not sending you any money' letter that I wrote in Russian.

# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not Russian custom etc). Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first.
# scammers rarely have children, but all the real Russian women I've ever met on the net did.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl)
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded. Most scam photos have a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise. A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a photo set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! even poor girls can't do without a mobile phone, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. On the other hand, not having a landline or a computer is quite common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes everyday in English (how does she have time if she's working? + most Russians can hardly speak a word of English). Anyway, what's the point of finding a girl if you can't communicate with her, at least on a basic level?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in love very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows.
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, even though she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. Without these documents, it's impossible for 'her' to get a sponsored Schengen visa. USA and Canada is almost as complicated. And normal tourist visas + travel costs would set her back 2000+ US dollars. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Be realistic.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos u won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger, otherwise why does she have a non-cyrillic email account?

However, there are really nice Russian girls out there and if you're as lucky a me, you'll find one. It's not hard once you learn to spot the scammers.
2007-08-27, 20:06:55
anonymous from United States  
Eddie 2007-08-27, 08:59:22
''Is the scammer in Scotland?''
Interseting question - If yes, must be of interest to Scotland Yard - in the wake of Litvenko. /O
2007-10-06, 16:39:02
anonymous from United States  
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Hello Tanya,
How is This VERY lovely sweet lady Doing today Sugar. I hope YOUR full of them sweet Smiles You HAVE Honey. i hope In time we Could Share Them together A Little MORE For EACH Other??!! just woundering What Might Sweet thought's Might Bee!! hummm!!! I hope we could talk alittle More together On instance Meassager together. You need to send me your Email address so I can Add YOU to My List OK Mine is mark19282003@yahoo.com OK!!! I hope we could really get together And Share OUR thought's and let 'Our' friendship Grow More together. I'am looking for some one Honest and sincer to each other Being there throw the good and bad time together. Putting OUR mind's For each other. possible MORE In Time for each other Too. I hope I may hear More FROM YOU Sweetheart I hope Maybe possible in TIME To and possibialty MORE!! for each OTHER OK!!! thinking Of YOU I hope To hear from YOU. your a very Special lady in MY HEART I hope 'We' can talk More Together.
Thinking Of YOU,
Your friend,
Mark,
Hope to Hear from YOU, SUGAR!! I hope in
TIME for each other


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2007-10-12, 18:05:26
[hidden] from Hove, United Kingdom  
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Got hit with one just this week, contacted me, ignored all questions I had asked, suspicious staright away, she/he/they appear to have given up after e-mail number 6!
Be warned
2007-10-13, 07:35:47
[hidden] from United Kingdom  
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I joined a well known dating agency at the start of this month (Oct.) here in the UK and received an e-mail from krossover2@rambler.ru asking for my e-mail address as her membership was about to expire and would like to communicate as she liked my profile. Seemed fair enough, so I did. Then the above 2 e-mails with same pics came in consecutive days. 6 in total over 6 days. However, e-mails 3, 4, 5, and 6 I believe to be unique and personal as some chemistry was developing. But it took just this sentence, ''I simply operated spontaneously but simultaneously with the concrete serious purpose.'' spotted in last e-mail (6) which was 'cut & pasted' from e-mail (2) as above. When I asked why she felt she needed to repeat this to me. That was it end of story. Then I found this link. Those pics are good bait. So beware
2007-10-13, 17:36:25
anonymous  
I agree 'Tanya' has all the signs of a scammer as listed above and i'm not undermining what any of you are saying, but 'i've sent out form introductions to girls from a dating web-site myself. If I was Russian seeking partners outside of my country, i'be sending out form letters in the best english I could and see what comes in. Does anyone know if this girl has actually scammed anyone?
2007-10-13, 17:49:48
anonymous  
All this for a plane ticket? Jeez, they're not exactly poor over there anymore!
2007-10-14, 03:14:53   (updated: 2007-10-14, 03:21:52)
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous 2007-10-13, 17:36:25...

I see your point, and understand your scepticism...but:

* the 'girl', or rather the photo, wouldn't be here if 'she' hadn't scammed anyone, or wasn't a scammer. This site doesn't exist to slander innocent people. We volunteer information, you use your common sense.

* my fiancée is Russian and I met her online, (she had her residency interview at the Swedish embassy in Moscow 10 days ago). I've been to Russia twice in the last year, and I've sponsored two girls to visit me in Stockholm, ergo I speak from experience. I know the visa procedures in both directions and I've even had direct contact with several scammers (in Russian) in their 'real personas'... all of them were guys. I know how they operate. Not to mention the hundreds of scam mails I've received.

* it's true that some Russian girls have a standard form mail that they send out, but usually only as a REPLY to guys who are interested in them and write first. Russia and Europe may not be like North America, here it's the guys who do the chasing on the internet. Having talked with several female friends in Stockholm who posted profiles on Match.com, a reasonably attractive Swedish girl gets 10-20 mails A DAY from all over the world. The girls let the guys write to them, and then pick and choose the guys they like the look of and reply. The others they ignore. The same applies in Russia. My own fiancée had lots of guys write to her, many were Russian guys.

In other words, it would have to be a very desperate Russian girl who spams masses of guys with form mails. Most Russian girls don't really want to leave Russia, they're just looking for love like everyone else. And Russian TV is FULL of documentaries about Russian girls who've gone abroad and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

One form mail does not equal a scammer, but several form mails in a row = 100% scam.

* the problem is mostly that North American and European men are still living with an outdated and stereotyped image of Russia and Russian girls in general. It's one of the factors that scammers play on to make money.
2007-11-17, 08:21:17
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Maybe this will help any of you make up your mind whether she is genuine or not. It's a copy of an e mail sent to me this week. The photo's are the same too.

Hi,Matthew is very glad to see your answer to my short message. To tell the truth, did not expect, that you sosoon will answer.I thought, that I shall not interest you. Ask to excuse me if my letter will be not absolutely clear for you.I not the master to write letters, especially it is my first experience of dialogue through the Internet,and I worry slightly.Plus to all my English not so good, because I from Russia from Kazan !You were confused probably with that fact, that I the girl from Russia! Simply I am poorly familiar with the Internet and it is possible at registration have made something not so. I shall try to write more simply and clearly. My name is Anna and i am 28 years old! In my profile I havebriefly written about myself.But I think it a little for the beginning acquaintances, and I shall write more.If you will be interested with any questions on me ask and do not hesitate. I use the Internet to acquaint from the person from other country! I do not know to what will result ouracquaintance on the Internet...I simply want to find persons as a hobby which would understand me! I might not find love in Russia. But Ihope for the best! If you the serious loyal, kind and strong person I should be pleased to continue our correspondence . I shall tell about my city slightly! It is very old city! Because it is possible to tell about this cityhours! Here it is a lot of sights, and also entertaining complexes.If you want to find out about my city you may find out about Kazan in the Internet.According to the official version basing last archeologic data, the city was based in 1005. The first mention in Russian annals in 1177. Large city of Kazan became from second half of 13 centuries. I was never married earlier, I have no children, Nevertheless I am disturbed by it in Internet a lot of dangerous. I have received news from my girlfriends, that it is a lot of girls furiouslyleave in your country and will carry out hold them furiously in slavery!Therefore I shall be very cautious, I ask to forgive me if I have offended you. I only want to find correctpersons.As I understand, that between us there is a big distance, and we may not meet each other at once, thereforewe should be with each other extremely frank.So we may understand faster, that we want from each other. I work as the chief accountant in fund of pension for us in Kazan! I work at this work of 6 years.It is possible to inform, I began to work there directly after the endings of studying at university! I live one, I, mum with daddy has died. Daddy has died, two years back, both mum have died year and two monthsback because of problems with heart.They have left to me an apartment in which I live in full loneliness.I not spoiled and very serious girl. In my heart it - is a lot of kindness and tenderness which does not findto itself an output.I like to prepare and love to hold the house clean. Parents from the childhood have learned me to independence.At the description of me it is direct with several words, I d speak I am very real and natural. Being false - not mine. I do not love envy and meanness.Very painfully, when the person establishes you the ambassador your opening your soul to him, I am a patient girl, it is a little ecsentric, each day new, unique.I like to be to keep in contact with interesting, strong persons. I search the correct person. He ripened and is independent, knows when to be serious and when to have anentertainment. He may estimate attention of the woman, his care and like to the person. He knows how to address from ladies and to love it. I assume, whether I find this person, I shall fall in love. On it I shall finish, to me it is necessary to go to do some work on the house.I shall look forward to hearing from you. I hope to you, liked.I shall apply a photo to this letter for you!Anna! mailto:kkklaz@rambler.ru
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