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Name: Elena


Russia, Perm, Kuibisheva street, 15, flat 4. An index 614007.
The address of bank Western Union: GUTA BANK. KOMSOMOLSKII
PROSPEKT, 7. PERM, the Index 614990

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[Her dying mother]

Hello my dear $ukr!!! I to have very bad mood and to me is very sad. Today doctors informed me awful news. They to me to tell, that my mum will need to be performed operation. And the operation will be faster made, the it will be better for it. But a problem that this operation very expensive. If we to not have time to perform this operation my mum any more will not be in alive. She will die. I to not want, that my mother to die. Operation costs 800 euros. I to not know, where to me to find such big sum of money. Now I should devote time to search of money for operation to my mum. To me it will be very difficult to find the sum, but I shall try. On it I to finish the letter. I shall wait for your letter. I kiss you!!! Your Elena.

[My reponse: Boyfriends >> poor friend like me, who have to impose on friends]

Hello my dear Elena!!! I couldn't write to you earlier due to my travels.
Sorry to hear about you mother. I spoke about her to my friend in New York, who is an internationally famous surgeon. He is highly respected by many surgeons in Russia, who were his students. It is nice of him to have offered to help on the medical issue. I know, in the time he was with me on the phone, he was losing more than 800, the surgical cost you mention, because that is the kind of income he earns. He however wants to help me, out of respect for me. I am going to ask his help, ONLY AFTER you will send me some information.
However, it may be easier for you, to ask all your boyfriends, and they may happily give you 800, and more!
I again wish your mother well.


Hello my darling $ukr!!! Thank you very much for the letter. Unfortunately I asked 800 euros my friends, but anybody from my friends has no such sum. So you can help me whether or not? Now I should come back to my mother I Wait for your following letter. I kiss you!!! Your Elena.

[My challenge - Доверие, но проверие - Boy they hate Stalin!]

Elena!!! [Taking care to repay everyone of her ! in kind and count]
I suggested you ask all your boyfriends. Many times, boyfriends will do lot more than friends.
If you want me to ask my doctor-friend, send me all these:
1) Hospital's name, full address, phone number, fax number, web-page address
2) The Doctor's name, full address, phone number and e-mail address
3) A copy of the doctor's diagnostic report
4) A copy of hospital's billing statement
5) A picture of you with your mother in or just outside the hospital
6) Your full name, address and phone number
7) Your mum's full name, address and phone number
They can all be in Cyrillic, it doesn't matter if you can't give them in English
The billing statement can be in Roubles, since hospitals in Perm accept Roubles, and you don't even need to worry about or $.
My friend will talk to the doctor about the diagnostics, and unlike me he understands all the medical details. After he understands the full details, he will then contact one of his students, who are now surgeons in Russia, and possibly have him visit you, your mother, and the hospital in Perm. After that he can pay the hospital in Roubles directly.
This is the easiest way of doing things for many reasons:
1) I can pay my friend any time in any currency. He is an extremely close friend of mine from my college days.
2) He can pay his Russian student surgeon in any currency. Although they may not want to accept from him, my friend will insist on paying them
3) The hospital and doctor bills can be paid directly to them and in Roubles, saving all the time and effort for them, and you in dealing with foreign currencies.
And most of all, here is the biggest advantage for you!!!
You do not have to become my girlfriend, but keep all your present Russian boyfriends, and perhaps get even more of them!
So think about it!


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2007-11-03, 12:45:41
OJAS from United States  
Spasibo duruhoy! :-)
2007-11-03, 12:46:22
OJAS from United States  
If you're a newcomer who found this thread via Google or whatever, PLEASE READ THIS: http://www.delphifa..p=10#59091

@allbies, once in a while check these links for information currency [Link Version 2007-11-02, 16:00:57]
2007-11-04, 10:45:18   (updated: 2007-11-04, 10:51:58)
OJAS from United States  
When to send e-mail to scammers?
Substitue your scammer's IP city and to get your local offset in the google query box and enter

If you have prepared e-mails for them, save as drafts and wait till their time 2100 (9:00 PM) - At that time most everyone is less alert, more likely to make mistakes. It takes data 8 minutes travel time from North America to a Russian DSL receiver. About half that from Central Europe. Night shift scammers are less efficient. When you receive your first money letter, reply that you won't have the time to go to bank till Friday, in the mean time insisting on their more beautiful pix, and on Saturday after 1700 his time you will say you sent the (first - same for your future) moneygram. He will be waiting till next Monday morning for his bank visit while hopefully e-mailing about his sexual dreams, with you as the hero! When the first moneygram fouls up, before the second one insist on a copy of passport and clearly typed in a line by itself Passport number. He has to be hit by googlers text-searching for passport numbers, it is more efficient than picture searching. In your Grande Finale at the end of your e-mail copy paste the below Cyrillic text (= Approximately: Begone retarded faggot prick - I f***ed your mum)
If he answers in Cyrillic, it will be provide you material for your next scammer in line. Remember preferred time 2100 hours can make the boss work overtime!
2007-11-04, 12:19:28   (updated: 2007-11-04, 12:33:12)
OJAS from United States  
A Posting Tip
You see a distracting hyperlink introduced in your post, you do not want the same in your next post - Here is how I will try to solve it.

A hyperlink will be created by a computer without seeking your permission, unlike humans do, when a computer decides to help a poor human, if a word or a phrase is worth a link, and is surrounded immediately by a blank space or a new line. I take this post for illustration http://www.delphifa..?p=9#59295 I was not consulted by any computer if I wanted hyperlinks in that post for ''RUSSIAN DATING'' ''US Passport'' and ''Switzerland''

For my next post I will try replacing each space character before these by a different character. While holding down the ALT key press 255 on the NUMERIC KEYPAD and release. This is an unprintable character for computers, they will ignore any link creation, and humans won't see anyway.

And it worked as in http://www.delphifa..p=5#59316

More Posting Tips ... To be continued ...
2007-11-04, 13:38:46
OJAS from United States  
Everyone cannot be a Gauss ... But anyone can find out what he did ... and how ... http://www.jimloy.c../gauss.htm
2007-11-07, 10:42:54   (updated: 2007-11-07, 10:45:32)
OJAS from United States  
Transferring a post to a new page: The first step is to hold mouse button, drag over the text to highlight. Next <CTRL> C for copy, open a new wordpad (or notepad with Format - Wordwrap checked off) and <CTRL> V for paste. This will copy the text into Times New Roman 10 point - No problem here. On delphi if there was a compressed link with 2 consecutive decimal points .. the copied text has to replaced with a clickable link.

When is any link hot (clickable) on any webpage? Before you click, hover the mouse on the link and check the status bar at the bottom of Internet Explorer. If you see invalid link (such as consecutive .. ) on the STATUS BAR you are wasting your calories with the click.

When you see a good link on the status bar of any web page there are 2 ways to copy the link to a wordpad file (and replace a bad link as needed).
Right click for properties. Hold mouse button and drag over the complete URL starting with http Then <CTRL> C as above for copy <CTRL> V as above for paste (get rid of any bad URL on your wordpad file). Save the wordpad file to your flash drive, so for future you can directly post from your wordpad file. Poor guys like me e-mail the file to ourselves, since unlike flashdrive which costs, gmail which is free has given me 4GB so far.

The second way instead of properties, open the good URL in a new window. click on the address bar. <CTRL> A selects all (in this case URL) now copy, paste as above.

I have a newbie info only 2 lines, I would like be available for someone who has stumbled on to that page. It is obviously not intended for the guy who started the thread. When an oldbie sees that his eyes go east only for 4 1/2 words If you're a new.. or 5 syllables. Right away his eyes go south the next line [Version Date / Time stamps] tells him if he likes to transfer my post. If not his eyes go further south, and he shouldn't mind such a small excercise for the eyes that 's actually good for pupils.

So allbies give it a try, make it readily available on every page for anybie who is on initial visit, and you'll be amazed at how much homework he would have done, you won't expect him to post irresponsible statements designed to mislead other newbies.

It is always a good practice to test a link you just posted
2007-11-21, 14:43:36
Peter from Germany  
Hallo OJAS!
Finally I have found your personal thread but did not go through it by strategy and patience yet.

Because you seem to be addicted to feedbacks ( :-) I try to make a statement to your 5-liner here:

'Newcomers - Please click on the Welcome link and make informed posts http://www.delphifa...122#62019

Frequently Asked Information - Visa - News - E-mail - Translator - More FAQ ... http://www.delphifa..17#62230'

Best is its briefness, the contents is very helpful too. But...

- first question for me as a not native english speaker: What welcome link? I'd suggest to write at least 'following welcome link'
- next question: Where should I make those posts? At the thread you have sent me to?
- and: What are 'informed posts'. As a newbie I may not know your being bothered about newbies posting rubbish everywhere. As a french man I may not get 'informed' as well. Is it meant as 'informing' perhaps? Suggestion: Just delete the last four words! It sounds a bit arrogant anyway.
- Why should I click somewhere at all? I am here due to a special purpose. Better: 'If you like here is a welcome link:'

Nothing to change on the second part.

Do newbies really look at the ends of threads at first? I for sure did the opposite. I was looking for my honey so the pics were interesting. I had clicked on every thread from start on. I guess only newbies that are experienced with messageboards in general are looking for the thread that runs the best and those may not be many.
So think over if it is better to post your 'welcomer' on new threads and have look if the starter needs it at all. Or give it if someone starts to write nonsense. The last two german thread starters for example, Ernesto and Sal, had done their homework.

Anyhow, I like your small comments. Eddie's welcome text is really good. I will translate it to german. But it takes a lot of space so I prefer your links to it.

In general you should try to use more words but words that are on a list 'the hundred most used in american english'. I guess you already know these words cover 95% of all spoken english. I have looked for that list for you but failed yet.

In the communication theory 'redundance' is a positive expression. The more the better! The receiver always needs some simple introducing words for example to hear a fitting sound in his head before he is able to decode deeper meanings. To add emotional adjectives is helpful and to repeat thoughts with different words or from different points of views too. Emotions are the energy of thoughts, so give them space if you want to be understood.

Go on!
2008-01-18, 13:17:46   (updated: 2008-01-18, 13:29:48)
Moskva,Droog from Russian Federation  

Thank you very much for all links you gave me! So much info.
I dont know Ukranian though :(

Here is translation:

'email title: Мошенничество! (nobody here knows word skamerstvo)

Привет, козел!         (хохол it insulting only for ukranians. I see why you wrote because its synonim of greednesss but its not so obvious. Козел its very common and disparaging )
Пожалуйста, не оскорбляй мой интеллект. Tы не живешь в _____________, ты живешь в Йшкар-Оле, преступном городе в России. Tы посылаешь мне украденные фотографии и хуёвые, под копирку письма. Скоро ты попросишь у меня деньги, чтобы получить визу (но визу невозможно получить без письменного приглашения от меня, а также без билетов).
Я сэкономлю тебе время. Пошел вон отсюда и найди себе честную работу, несчастный жулик! Мне не интересен твой мошеннический бизнес. Cегодня тебе не обломилось. (you flopped, failed, fucked up… today). Иcчезни (get lost,disappear), а то въебу.
Пошел на хуй, ублюдок(cur, mutt, jerk…I couldn’t find exact synonym but its worse then these words)

Latin alphabet:
email title: moshennichestvo!

Privet, kozel!
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'aj moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivesh v ___________, ty zhivesh v Yoshkar Ole, prestupnom gorode v Rossii. Ty posylaesh mne ukradennye fotografii i khuevye skopirovannyye pis'ma. Skoro ty poprosish u menya den'gi chtoby poluchit' vizu (no nevozmozhno poluchit' vizu bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot menya, a takzhe bez biletov),

Ya sekonoml'u tebe vrem'a. Poshel ots'uda, chtoby naiti sebe chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Mne ne interesen tvoi moshennicheskii biznes. Idi na khuy, ubl'udok! (Idi and poshel are synonims).'

In parentheses you can read some explanation. You should delete exlanation or I can do it after you will understand what I wrote. Its up to you.
Again, Khokhol doesnt sound insulting so much.
Cant believe I did it :o)

You gave me Eddies post for scammers. Should I improve it? (its about pedofil matter).
Its even worse.
I will write Tony.

Have a nice weekend!

2008-01-18, 14:54:24   (updated: 2008-01-18, 15:01:49)
OJAS from United States  
Moskva Droog, Spasibo,
When you get a moment, please make a post in 3 parts First Cyrillic alone, next transcribed Latin, finally English translation, same style. Move explanatory notes to the bottom. It will be easy for me to link, and other English speakers to read, understand, Copy / Paste for the Grande Finale. Thanks again
I will post in the other thread also. Have a nice weekend as well! :-)
2008-01-18, 23:22:42   (updated: 2008-01-18, 23:24:14)
Moskva,Droog from Russian Federation  
I wiil do later today.
May I improve your price list (fee shedule) as well? :)
I received dating letter from Qatar. I am almost sure its one more scammer. Do you know guys is it still true that Qatar has the only one IP for the whole country?
2008-01-18, 23:39:28
OJAS from United States  
Sure, Moskva Droog
Please improve on the fee structure I took from Ukrainian scammer.
Also Eddie's reply to paedophile scammer.

The Qatar IP scammer uses is likely forged. It could also be a traveling scammer. There was an instance of a scammer scamming $700 from an American, claimnig to be stuck in Moscow, wanting train-fare to reach Saratov. Eddie found out the train-fare should be about $70. The scammer and girl-friend went instead to Turkey. Nadezhda Linkova is another world-wide traveling scammer.
2008-01-19, 00:10:27
Moskva,Droog from Russian Federation  

Thank you very much. I learn more every day. I am here a little more than one week. You are doing a great 'job' here!

Its link to MVD RF The Ministry of the Interior of Russia (MOI). Its in Russian.
There is english version but in english version. But threr is no complain connection in this. In Russian version I wrote you above the button {1} is link for comlains. They will consider but if wont put your data they wont answer. I am not sure that you need answer from MOI. But dont give link them to this site anyway!

Nigerian embassy still did not answer me. I think they never will write me.

Its not so cold here I will survive :-)
2008-01-19, 11:51:34   (updated: 2008-01-19, 11:52:19)
Moskva,Droog from Russian Federation  

Here its Grande Finale

'email title: Мошенничество!

Привет, козел!        
Пожалуйста, не оскорбляй мой интеллект. Tы не живешь в _____________, ты живешь в Йшкар-Оле, преступном городе в России. Tы посылаешь мне украденные фотографии и хуёвые, под копирку письма. Скоро ты попросишь у меня деньги, чтобы получить визу (но визу невозможно получить без письменного приглашения от меня, а также без билетов).
Cледовательно, я сэкономлю тебе время. Пошел отсюда и найди себе честную работу, несчастный жулик! Мне плевать твой мошеннический бизнес. Cегодня тебе не обломилось. Иcчезни,а то въебу. Иди на хуй, ублюдок!

Latin alphabet:
email title: moshennichestvo!

Privet, kozel!
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'aj moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivesh v ___________, ty zhivesh v Yoshkar Ole, prestupnom gorode v Rossii. Ty posylaesh mne ukradennye fotografii i khuevye skopirovannyye pis'ma. Skoro ty poprosish u menya den'gi chtoby poluchit' vizu ( nevozmozhno poluchit'vizu bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot menya, a takzhe bez biletov),

Ya sekonoml'u tebe vrem'a. Poshel ots'uda i nadti sebe chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Mne plevat na tvoi moshennicheskii biznes. Ischezni, a to v'ebu. Idi na khuy, ubl'udok!

English version:

Hello buck !
Please don't insult my intelligence. You don't live in (name of city), you live in Yoshkar Ola, a criminal city in Russia. You send me stolen photos and poor-quality copy letters. Soon, you'll ask for money to obtain a visa (impossible to obtain without a letter of invitation from me and tickets as well).

Therefore I will save you some time. Go from here and seek an honest job, you miserable swindler. I spit upon your scam business. Today you are failed. Get lost or I'll kick your ass. Fuck you, cur!'

Мошенничество – moshennichestvo- scam
Козел – kozel – buck (billy goat)
Xуёвые – khuevye – bad swearing word means “bad quality”
Ублюдок - ubl'udok – cur (jerk…)

2008-01-19, 12:28:36
anonymous from United States  
Moskva Droog,
Spasibo. I will recommend your improved link http://www.delphifa..?p=1#71200 http :// for Grande Finale!
2008-01-19, 13:48:41
Moskva,Droog from Russian Federation  
Всегда пожалуйста!
I will ask my schoolmate who lives in Ukrain to traslate in Ukranian.
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