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Name: Elena


Russia, Perm, Kuibisheva street, 15, flat 4. An index 614007.
The address of bank Western Union: GUTA BANK. KOMSOMOLSKII
PROSPEKT, 7. PERM, the Index 614990

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From: Elena
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[Her dying mother]

Hello my dear $ukr!!! I to have very bad mood and to me is very sad. Today doctors informed me awful news. They to me to tell, that my mum will need to be performed operation. And the operation will be faster made, the it will be better for it. But a problem that this operation very expensive. If we to not have time to perform this operation my mum any more will not be in alive. She will die. I to not want, that my mother to die. Operation costs 800 euros. I to not know, where to me to find such big sum of money. Now I should devote time to search of money for operation to my mum. To me it will be very difficult to find the sum, but I shall try. On it I to finish the letter. I shall wait for your letter. I kiss you!!! Your Elena.

[My reponse: Boyfriends >> poor friend like me, who have to impose on friends]

Hello my dear Elena!!! I couldn't write to you earlier due to my travels.
Sorry to hear about you mother. I spoke about her to my friend in New York, who is an internationally famous surgeon. He is highly respected by many surgeons in Russia, who were his students. It is nice of him to have offered to help on the medical issue. I know, in the time he was with me on the phone, he was losing more than 800, the surgical cost you mention, because that is the kind of income he earns. He however wants to help me, out of respect for me. I am going to ask his help, ONLY AFTER you will send me some information.
However, it may be easier for you, to ask all your boyfriends, and they may happily give you 800, and more!
I again wish your mother well.


Hello my darling $ukr!!! Thank you very much for the letter. Unfortunately I asked 800 euros my friends, but anybody from my friends has no such sum. So you can help me whether or not? Now I should come back to my mother I Wait for your following letter. I kiss you!!! Your Elena.

[My challenge - Доверие, но проверие - Boy they hate Stalin!]

Elena!!! [Taking care to repay everyone of her ! in kind and count]
I suggested you ask all your boyfriends. Many times, boyfriends will do lot more than friends.
If you want me to ask my doctor-friend, send me all these:
1) Hospital's name, full address, phone number, fax number, web-page address
2) The Doctor's name, full address, phone number and e-mail address
3) A copy of the doctor's diagnostic report
4) A copy of hospital's billing statement
5) A picture of you with your mother in or just outside the hospital
6) Your full name, address and phone number
7) Your mum's full name, address and phone number
They can all be in Cyrillic, it doesn't matter if you can't give them in English
The billing statement can be in Roubles, since hospitals in Perm accept Roubles, and you don't even need to worry about or $.
My friend will talk to the doctor about the diagnostics, and unlike me he understands all the medical details. After he understands the full details, he will then contact one of his students, who are now surgeons in Russia, and possibly have him visit you, your mother, and the hospital in Perm. After that he can pay the hospital in Roubles directly.
This is the easiest way of doing things for many reasons:
1) I can pay my friend any time in any currency. He is an extremely close friend of mine from my college days.
2) He can pay his Russian student surgeon in any currency. Although they may not want to accept from him, my friend will insist on paying them
3) The hospital and doctor bills can be paid directly to them and in Roubles, saving all the time and effort for them, and you in dealing with foreign currencies.
And most of all, here is the biggest advantage for you!!!
You do not have to become my girlfriend, but keep all your present Russian boyfriends, and perhaps get even more of them!
So think about it!


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2008-02-05, 09:01:05   (updated: 2008-02-05, 09:53:37)
Peter from Germany  
I never thought you could be from the other side. I only did not get along with your (former) way to express yourself. There was some suspicion against you, I am recalling that, but not from me.
There is always a lot of unnecessary mistrust here. Unneeded because there is quite easy question to judge about someone in internet:
'Does this person want to take any financial advantage with her/his comment/mail?'
If so mistrust is more than recommened. If not suspect is a waste of energy because it leads to nothing.
That was the lesson I had to learn. I did not change my way of acting or thinking. I had to correct my attitude towards the new medium internet. That was all.

I have just seen these Saudi-Arabian porn pics. Got nothing against pretty women, even nude, but that's too much. Please help to spam them!
2008-02-05, 11:21:39
OJAS from United States  
Cyrillic request please post under this link. Thanks
2008-02-05, 11:52:20
OJAS from United States  
Some analysis of the apprentice scammer http://www.delphifa..p=3#73983

1) This one claimed Yoshkar-Ola itself as residence city. Under pressure from the boss to show $$ tries to hang-on to an existing target as it would be far more difficult to generate a new set of lies and find new targets before the deadline.

2) Reinforces Eddie's point that when you insult a scammer, you have a good chance of eliciting feedbacks. From a rookie scammer it will be more lies to google for. From the boss it will be Cyrillic insults, very useful phrases against the next scammer.

3) Make scammers taste their own medicine. Collect Cyrillic insults from them as many as possible, feed the next scammer these, extract more lies to google for and you have self-sustaining counter-attack strategy.

4) As mentined in an earlier post, the Russian national battle psychology of the last millennium is heavily based on counter-attack strategy.

5) Some scammers still seem to live in the past ... At least their brains don't seem to have evolved to modern day.

6) Hit the enemy hard at his weakest spot ... his brain, most often!

7) Dirk's masterpiece spanning several innings with a similar scammer http://www.delphifa..p=59#69007
2008-02-05, 12:46:30
Peter from Germany  
Thx, my opinion too. All to where it belongs.
2008-02-06, 10:04:09   (updated: 2008-02-06, 10:08:40)
OJAS from United States  
A thread starting Tip

After 137 characters, most delphi posts will have to scroll right. This can be prevented while starting a new thread. If you are using a text editor insert a carriage return at each 120 characters of every line that exceeds 120 characters, if word wrap is turned off. If word wrap on the format menu is set on, ensure the text editor window is less than 120 characters wide. The widest line of the thread starter for http://www.delphifa..2461.shtml actually exceeds 137 characters starts with b=5/0ZnW/ and determines the thread width. The second widest of the starter is the line immediately above, but somewhere between theses two widths is the compromise. An artificially introduced carriage return on the widest line will make it easy on the reader, avoiding too much horizontal scrolling for every subsequent post that uses text editor with word wrap turned off of set higher than the widest thread starter line.
2008-02-06, 10:47:08
OJAS from United States  
Skeet, thanks for raising the issue of thread width, something to quench my homework thirst with! :-)

@newbies who have actually bookmarked our thread! (LOL X 2)
Offer all your feedbacks, how I can make life easier on delphi etc. on our thread, draw my attention here if you e-mailed me something requiring a prompt response, etc. I do not keep any of my e-mail windows concurrently open while on some sites like delphi for obvious reasons. I will also try to link from earlier posts, purely of informative nature here and present them here as we continue our thread. A fair question, should I include my earlier posts of informative nature as well? I respect your frank feedback, as it will only be slightly more difficult for me to find the original author(s) of the source(s) I had relied upon! :-))
2008-02-06, 11:28:30   (updated: 2008-02-06, 12:08:10)
OJAS from United States  
Privacy in Cyberspace

A brief (only 5 posts) conversation with glenn http://www.delphifa..p=4#73306

If you e-mailed any friend who may not have up-to-date computer protection, data could be phished from that computer.

e-mail harvester http://www.delphifa..306.shtml

Some e-mail extractors

Wipe hard-disks thoroughly before your computer changes hands

Consider carefully before you publish your personal info http://www.delphifa..p=3#64966

Spread scammer watch http://www.delphifa..?p=5#71283
2008-02-06, 11:38:37
Droog from Russian Federation  


Its more convenient for me to do it on a weekend. Please just point at exact English version or copy/paste. It’s a bit confusing which one.

Answering your above post 04, 2008-02-04, 15:11:20 (updated: 2008-02-04, 16:08:05) about not being diplomatic, providing improvments etc I can tell that usually I stop discussion and bow out politely in a following (in narrow sense) cases: not interesting to me (wasting time) :)
2.when sides know so much that be able to demonstrate a lot of evidences and as a rule a sides are not in opposite and it can go on endlessly (its ok if you have spare time)
3.when sides know so much that be able to demonstrate a lot of evidences and they are in opposite and it can go on endlessly (its ok if you have spare time and if sides if they didn’t kill each other) :-)
4.when sides know too a little or don’t know at all what they talk about (worst case and doesn’t matter they are in opposite or not)
5.when chief asks “who is the boss here”? :-))

If scammers use Inet café you can trace mail and it seems ok but at the same time they can use real women (old very poor women – pensioners) with real addresses to pick up money on WU, MG and pay them a small amount of cash. All are happy. I am sure you know about it. And 1-5 doesn’t work. But I might miss something.
And also scammers have all kinds of 'products' for victims (from 100 (?) US$ till...?)

Пока – Poka – Bye, so long

Is it possible to trace IRC? Cannt understand it by myself. If you have the links please post it. I tried to google “trace IRC” but takes too much time. It might happened be some info here.

Hi Crikey!
Hope you are doing fine.

Have a nice day to all!
2008-02-06, 12:03:55
Droog from Russian Federation  

Full off topic:
does anybody know why Realtek AC 97 Audio in my notebook turns off all the time by itself and forces me reload this equipment? Its irritating. Or I just should except it like this.
2008-02-06, 12:24:45
OJAS from United States  
Spasibo once again, appreciate your points. On your other post, display the device manager, and for that audio device reset its power conservation settings.

Like I said if you want more details, even on general topics, one-on-one e-mail is preferable, but do draw my attention here. Since I am going to check my e-mail, I will temporarily leave here, compliant with my own recommendation! (lol!), even though it now has to do with keylogger type phishing, but that is for another interested person who may request it!

2008-02-06, 12:28:18
from United States  
Iran 2008-02-06, 12:23:14
khar kuste
Pedar sag
Modare Kheere sag mihor!
2008-02-06, 22:45:24
Hi I am the Iranian Spammer 2008-02-06, 12:23:14. My name is Kheer, you can also call me Cooney. My sincere apologies for loading someone else's picture. This is what I look like!

2008-02-07, 00:14:06
from Australia  
Hi droog.
IRC can be traced as soon as the user enters the server-chatroom,depending on the settings of your script it automatically appears in your 'statbox' ,if thats not an option you can use any number of manual commands for eg /whois <username> or /whowas <username> will provide you with information you need in order to do a comprehensive trace.Some chatters use false proxies but all in all most people,and servers have 'unmasked ips'

If you need any help with it im more than happy to take a look for you an provide you with the commands necessary to get the job done;)cheers.
2008-02-07, 11:36:04   (updated: 2008-02-07, 11:53:29)
OJAS from United States  
Some time saving tips

While asking or answering a question ''Have you seen before'' a picture search comes in handy. Logon to
and enter scam in the top field, and Yoshkar-Ola in the next field, select No filtering radio button on the bottom-most choice and search, hits 388 in 120 milliseconds. At 18 per page there are only 22 pages to view. At the average retinal persistence rate of 0.6 seconds per image it will take under 4 minutes to decide assuming you view all the 388, which you won't in practice. Time gained on the skipped ones is about the same as 21 mouse clicks to view all 22 pages. The 4 minutes seem well spent!

This one is on posting. My penchant for link (over Copy / Paste - No offence intended, Droog!) is based on shifting the credit (burden?) to the original author, save time if you can avoid re-inventing the wheel, write lengthy articles to justify your statements. For this link creation tip, first try a little experiment to get a good feel about this point.

Look at the URL of this thread. After the final slash / if you delete the remaining characters and hit enter, you will see all the threads. This thread number is 2156, its type shtml follows the final dot. Next delete all characters after the l in shtml, and hit enter. Now you see the thread starter post. So if you think the matter you want to substantiate was in a thread starter of some thread, it may be quicker to copy such obtained URL for your post, instead of first querying delphi, then having to decide among many hits. It will now say You are on page 1 of nn, ...

Next click on a different page, noting the number you click on. Look at the URL, it will show one page off-set, and the jump # to the comment block, so the first comment on this page is at the top of your screen. If this is the comment you want to link, this again is a quicker way. The first comment immediately succeeding the thread starter is obtained by clicking on page 1. There is no particular advantage to be gained by appending to URL, ?pnn, except under rare circumstances you want to draw attention to the thread starter as well as the first post on that page.

Summarizing, if you are reading a post, and want to determine its link, you only need to query strings if they are from the remaining 14 posts. There is a total of 15 comments per page in delphi with blue bar showing time stamp.
2008-02-07, 12:46:36   (updated: 2008-02-07, 12:48:52)
Droog from Russian Federation  


its Acer TM 2312 LC (almost 3 years old), WinXP (HE).

Nice pictures :-))

Thank you!
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