here's a Russian mail that you can send to her (him) :D...I'm posting it in non-cyrillic since she (he) has a yahoo account and yahoo/hotmail/gmail aren't compatible with cyrillic. She (he) will most definitely read it and understand.
mail title: skamerstvo!
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'ajte moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivete v (name of her/his city), ty zhivete v Yoshkar Ola, prestupnyj gorod v Rossii. Ty posylayete mne ukradennyye fotografii i nizkokachestvennyye skopirovannyye pis'ma. Skoro, ty budete prosit' den'gi poluchit' vizu (nevozmozhnyj poluchit' bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot men'a i biletov takzhe.)
Poetomu, ya sekonoml'u tas nekotoroye vrem'a. Pojdite ots'uda, chtoby iskat' chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Ya ne imeyu interes dl'a vashego skamerstvo. Oto'idi, a to jebnu. Idi na khuy!
mail title: scamming!
Hello 'vile greedy one',
Please do not insult my intelligence. You don't live in (name of his/her city), you live in Yoshkar Ola, a criminal city in Russia. You send me stolen photos and poor-quality copy letters. Soon, you'll ask for money to obtain a visa (impossible to obtain without a letter of invitation from me and tickets as well.)
Therefore, I will save you some time. Go from here and seek an honest job, you miserable scammer. I'm not interested in your scamming. Get lost or I'll kick your ass. Fuck you!
....guaranteed to get a response, especially if you attach this photo
anonymous from Sweden
To any newcomers who find their way to this thread. PLEASE READ THIS!
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS AND RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
80-90% of Russian dating scammers are men, mostly working in small gangs. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in the pics aren't involved because the scammers steal pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for a photo shoot, or buy and exchange photo sets on scammer websites. They use form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter. They don't even read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as possible at the same time.....you can write any crap in your replies before that and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait.
So...if several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, Mari-El Republic, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops.
# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). They might reply to your mails, but they rarely write first. It's the man who should do the chasing. Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first!
# scammers rarely have children, but most the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did. (except for Moscow career girls)
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). Think with your brain!
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise (overuse?). A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a studio set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting sleazy pics will only attract cheap guys.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her when you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? (And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet?) Most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English anyway. And what's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level? + if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger.
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, but IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY! She can get a sponsored visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries...the USA and Canada are almost as complicated. Anyway, a normal tourist visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Be realistic.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional. There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers. One or two (mostly in the Ukraine) are not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot.
But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. And if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know, you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to go and get them. Chercher la femme.
Eddie from Sweden
hmmm...when you wrote 'I want to come up behind you', I thought you had something else in mind.
anonymous from Australia
Tatyana is a bloke scamming I have new pictures of this one ,how do I post them on this site
ood evening ####!!!!!
I am glad to receive your letter. I at all did not expect to receive
it because not know you will answer me or not.
Suddenly I that not so have written that also you have not received my
letter. I hope that you can see I wash a photo. In this photo I on a
visit at the girlfriend. she has photographed me when we were going to
leave the house already.. #### it is pleasant to you? I hope what
yes. Because you like to me. But I very much would wish to learn you
better. I ask you read my letter and to answer my questions. Mark you
are very interesting to me and I wish to know about you all. Mark I
do not wish to hasten, I know that if to hasten that of anything good
it will not turn out. I search for serious attitudes and I wish to
find the man of the dream. I do not wish to play or simply to
communicate. I wish to learn about all of you. In men I to appreciate
sincerity and the truth. Because only these qualities help people to
create mutual understanding and happiness for both. I so think, and
My name is Tatyana. To me of 28 years and I was not married and I
do not have children. I live in small city which refers to Sovetsk, in
the Kirov area. The population of ours it is proud about 16,8 thousand
people. I work in hospital, I look after patients. My speciality
nurse. I work six days in a week, I go to cinema, theatre, I go on
dances. I wish to learn from you, what most of all interests in girls?
What you like? What qualities? How it should look? We in city do not
have man with which I could be happy. Therefore I have decided to get
acquainted through the Internet and have written to you. At us to have
the Internet of cafe and I can to come and receive your letters. I as
would like to receive more than your photos. I hope that you will send
them to me. I shall wait for them on the e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
I with impatience wait for your letter tomorrow. I hope that you will
#### I shall wait your answers and questions, I with pleasure shall
answer them. I wait and I hope.......
Your new girlfriend Tatyana.
P.S. I as wait for your photos!!!
Hello Dear @@@@ !!!!!
@@@@, If I could receive your photos every day that I think that I
would be the happiest girl on the ground. How your day? What did you
do today? How your dream?
It is a pity to me, but I have no phone now and consequently I cannot
hear your voice. To me it is sad, but I shall search for it. I am
glad, that you liked my picture. You cannot send me a picture?
I wish to tell to you about the family. I live with mum in an
apartment. At us very cosy and comfortably at home. I would try that
at home there was a cleanliness and it is beautiful. My mum works at a
factory. His name is Nina, the grandmother which lives from us in 80
- 90 kilometrov to village Aksenovo. Its name Zinaida. It yet does not
know that I am familiar with you, but soon I shall go to it and I
shall tell about it. I think that it will be glad that I communicate
with you. Because mum speaks, that I even became happier after have
met you. @@@@, tell to me about the family, I wish to learn all about
you, is possible at us greater together and can and was not present.
We should learn it. I want to learn all about you and I shall be all
tell about you. Well? I shall wait your questions tomorrow. I always
dreamed to meet one man and to be with it for ever. Probably it you?
But we should learn it. @@@@ tell to me, you love animals? To us
today for work the small cat has come. It was such small and I even
was afraid to touch it all over again. But has then taken on hands and
it was very tender. @@@@, I think of that as it would be fine if
after work I could come from work, make a fine supper to us with you
and we could enjoy our happiness. All is possible? However, @@@@? You
like me also I very much I wish more and to learn you more. And I hope
that you all tell to me. I hide nothing about you and is ready to tell
all to you. I today send a photo on which I together with my mum. When
we went to have a rest in Sochi have made this photo. There I was very
good also has received beautiful sunburn :) I already miss your letter
and I hope that you will soon send me it and tomorrow in the Internet
of cafe I shall receive it.
I shall wait......
Hello My @@@@!!!!!!
I am glad to your letter. What today was interesting? What has
occured? How your mood? I hope that perfectly.
Thanks you for your picture. You are very beautiful!! kiss kiss it is
very pleasant to me to communicate with you. I shall be glad to teach
you to Russian.
I today went along the street and have seen as the little girl bore
small a cat. It was very dirty. You know that has surprised me and has
lifted mood? The Girl has approached to me and I would ask what name
has given it a cat. I have told that I do not know, it would be
necessary to think. Then on has gone to other party. And what name
would be given by you? I do not know why but me so like a cat. @@@@
and you? I when see their that at me all day will be happy. And at you
to have what that signs? For example if I receive your letter that I
know that all the night long I shall well sleep, and you @@@@? What
do you love @@@@? You can tell about the interests? What you like to
eat? What to look? What books or newspapers to read? @@@@ you like to
dance? You to dance with me? And the sea? You love the sea? I do not
know why but I love a beach. I love when the fresh wind freshens me
when cool water to wash me. THIS SUCH UNFORGETTABLE FEELING!!!!!! I
only once was in Sochi with girlfriends and I very much would like to
be on sea once again. You would like understand with me on a beach?
Likely it is a lot of questions to you. I hope that you not is
offended from for it. Forgive, I simply very much wish to know all
about you. You have what or hobby? Well, likely you are tired to read
my letter. I shall write more tomorrow. I send today a photo on which
I studied to play on the piano when we went in Sochi, but at me
nothing has turned out, because for this purpose anything very long
time :( But I would like to learn :) I with impatience wait for yours
a photo and the letter.
Your, thinking of you Tatyana.
Hello Dear @@@@!!! :)
@@@@ I again smile because have received your letter. I with impatience
waited when the working day what to receive your letter would will
I like to travel on foot too. It is very interesting to me. I with
impatience shall wait for your pictures.
I wish to talk today about your friends, I wish to learn more about
that who surrounds you and as them call. Than you are engaged
together? How for a long time you together? @@@@ how you think, in it
world to have the present friends? They at you to have? At me to have
the best girlfriend, is name Nastya. We grew with it in one house and
went to one school. After school she has entered the institute and now
works in the company on sale. I have acted in medical college because
I should work and I would not have time to study in institute. Earlier
we often were together, now we meet on weekend and we talk about much.
@@@@ as you think that she speaks about you? @@@@ she would speak
that I was is cautious communicating with you. I know that she speaks
it because almost does not know you. I have told about you and it has
told that you probably the good person. It would speak that we with
you did not hasten, I too do not wish to hasten, I think that we all
over again everyone should learn one about other and then together to
think of the future. My girlfriend spoke about that what to have bad
men which deceive women. The photo of girls are necessary to them
only, but I am assured that you not such. I am right, @@@@? I so am
glad that have met you because you understand me. You understand all
about what I to speak. Or not all? I hope that all. I hope that
tomorrow I learn about your friends as. I shall wait for your letter.
How you think where I have made this photo? I have made it when we
with Nastya have met in weekend. We had very good mood and Nastya has
changed me a nose. I did not expect that she so will make, but on mine
opinion - picture is beautiful :) I now shall go home and I shall
think of you. I don't know why, but I cannot think of anybody, and
about what the other.
I with impatience wait for your letter.
Your sincere girlfriend Tatyana.
anonymous from Australia
email@example.com this is a scammers email
if everyone on this site sends an email to this bloke he will be wasting a lot of time ,play the scam untill he goes to the western union office a thousand times for no reason I am going to offer an airfare to my country to be sent via western union with a MTCN code and dodgy number