Those pic's were also used with the names;
Eddie from Sweden
[hidden] from Canada
oh no, bad luck! Sorry you got scammed. Easy to be wise after the fact though. Look, I'm not trying to rub salt into your wounds, but look at this girl...so obviously a model. I'm sure you're a great guy and all, but...
Otherwise, for any newbies on the thread....
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
If several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshtar Ola, Mari-El Republic, with a bunch of other sleazy guys, spamming indiscriminately on laptops .
# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first!
# scammers rarely have children, but most the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (outside Moscow).
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise (overuse?). A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a photo set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her when you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a computer is quite common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes everyday in English (how does she have time if she's working? + most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English). Anyway, what's the point of finding a girl if you can't communicate with her, at least on a basic level?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger, otherwise why does she have a non-cyrillic email account?
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, but IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY! She can get a sponsored visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries and USA and Canada are almost as complicated. Anyway, a normal tourist visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Be realistic.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional. There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers. One or two (mostly in the Ukraine) are not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot.
But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. And if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know, you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to go and get them (none that look as nice as this).
OJAS from United States
Sorry as well, that you got scammed. You'll get over it soon, and move on to a brighter day. We all soon learn from, but not feel bad about making mistakes.
For newbies curious about ... well, who are those guys who make mistakes?
An example, my rocket-scientist friend at Jet Propusion Lab was on his way to ... Western Union! Luckily at a traffic jam, he called me from his cell, and I sent him back with some frankly worded e-mail links. He was extremely angry with himself, so to try to calm him down, I had to remind him about how Einstein felt about his own mistake.
We all make mistakes, that's what make us homo sapiens - I'm excluding those ''perfect'' super-humans who from time to time come here to insult victims that they desreve it.
anonymous from Netherlands
Yes i was amazed about the long mails, i sent mail that i was too old for her and that she will succeed with other guys.Although that she keeps on sending mails i didnt understand that,I knew something was wrong with those beautie Ludmila.
At the first mail ive looked at the property of the mail and ive noticed that the same mail was send to others.After that the mails are send to me personal so she has a big adress book now,
Yes, the scammers usually use a semi-automatic spam program. They don't read your mails until after they have sent you the money letter...to see if you've taken the bait. And they are writing to dozens of guys at the same time.
Your email address is probably on a database somewhere (unless you are a member of a dating site)....or they get them using a email extractor program.
anonymous from Australia
Here's another photo those $%&*@( scammers use...BEWARE FELLAS
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