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Name: Ludmila or Luda K.


Cheboksary (but IP is forged)

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The full header, her introductiory-letter (two lines in Dutch), her first two formletters and the pics I received untill today.

Ludmila/Luda said she found me on

Interesting: I get emails from another girl, using the same formletters. The girl is different, but the picture-ID's are the same: b_img(number).jpg. Same photographer, same scammer? The other girls' IP is Yoshkar-Ola, though. I will link them if those similarities keep occurring.

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Letter 1

Datum: 21-9-2007 17:34:13
Aan: cindyhorsten@home.NL
Onderwerp: Nieuwe matches op Relatieplanet

Het hallo!
I have found at myself in spam to a basket the letter with with several questionnaires and email! This letter from the Netherlands site of dating! I never tried earlier gets acquainted through internet but for the sake of interest have dared to write to you! If it is interesting to you to learn me also that write to me! Only that I now can tell i live in Russia. To me of 25 years. Children are not present. It was not married! my education university! The Rest I shall write at your return answer! Ik zal blij zijn naar uw antwoord en het verhaal over youself!
Van de joue trouw.
My e-mail:

Letter 2

Datum: 26-9-2007 10:54:46
Aan: Dirk van Dellen

Hello! The new friend! I am grateful to you that you have answered me
and show the friendly relation. With the big desire, the best regards
I write you the answer. I hope that it will be interesting to you to
communicate with me, and it is possible to find out me a little bit
closer. I hope that our further correspondence it will not be simple
game, It is a little about itself: I was born in September 18, 1982 in
city of Cheboksary Would like to tell, that my parents together do not
live. When I was small parents began to live separately. We with mum
live separately. She works as the cook in a private school. To my mum
54 years and she does not look on the age, recently my mum Has met
another the man and probably from she was begun with new life. We
frequently see mum also she lives near me. I rent an apartment and I
live separately. My daddy too lives with other woman, but I with daddy
I support relations. he works as the driver of a taxi and for him the
life, to it of 56 years, The main thing for me that my parents were
quiet in the private life. At present I have no the friend. Studied at
university Now I work on a speciality the agent under the real estate,
I very much like my work, as to me per day It is necessary to
communicate with different people much enough. At leisure I visit a
pool, occupations by sports help me to keep the health In the evenings
I listen to music or I look TV Like to chatter with friends. We like
to walk on city, our city very beautiful and very ancient, I can write
much to you about my city, but I think shall write to you of it little
bit later. If certainly it interests you I very simple person, the
first turn want to tell you, that me most of all in the person
Interests his private world, instead of appearance and the size of a
purse, I like people from which the truth proceeds, And having a
definite purpose in life. Most of all I do not like, hypocrisy and
lie. Certainly in our life there are many bad people, But I think that
is not necessary to pay attention to them, as they of it are not
worthy our attention. But we shall not continue further this theme of
conversation, let's continue about good, What you might inform about
yourselves, your qualities, hobbies? Your vital interests? I hope to
you it will be not difficult to inform about myself? I with the great
pleasure send to you a photo, would like to know your opinion about
me? I wish you all good! With impatience I shall look forward to
hearing from you With the best regards Ludmila.

Letter 3

Datum: 27-9-2007 18:10:04
Aan: Dirk van Dellen

Hello my Cute The knight!!!! I hope that you is nothing I will name
you my knight? Now autumn and consequently it is sad from memoirs on
the lived summer a little! I prefer spring or summer more! What at you
today weather? At us today the rain is not present! But from 5:00 in
the mornings the dense fog has lowered! and was nothing is visible on
distance of 10 meters! It is impossible to go to cars without
headlights! Now the fog has dissipated also all became normal! I can
write about it much, but I do not think, that is necessary to point on
it a lot of attention. It will be more useful if I shall speak more
about myself! My growth of 170 centimeters! My weight of 49 kg! I
Cristian belief! I try to visit church once a month, as I not the
religious fanatic. My preference in the foodstuffs is fruit and a
fish. My favourite flowers it is violets. My favourite music is a jazz
or any other qualitative music. My favourite color is gentle - pink.
Ok, I think what for today to suffice the information about me. I
hope, that you to write about the predilections also! It will be very
curious to me to know about you everything, that it is not a pity to
you to me to tell! You most likely remember, than I am engaged also
what work at me. Let even I write you, That I am tired, but my work is
pleasant to me, and dream to come in normal is now simply necessary
for me Condition. I begin to work with 8.00 till 17.00 as usually I
arrive in office in the morning, Also I look the planned the program
of meetings, I move on city rendering the services. After I carry out
the program, I come back in office and I check the mail. You know for
me not usually to remain after a working day, but I make it with the
great pleasure As to me there is very interesting a dialogue through
the Internet and with you it is very pleasant for me To converse I
would like to ask you how you concern to the to work? That you may
inform me about the work. With greetings, respect and the best regards
your friend Luda.

P.S. My full name Ludmila.

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2007-09-30, 11:27:49
anonymous from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Finally... A Dutch Thread, Eddie. Did it!! Dirk

Heren, Er is ook nog een Larisa-Thread. Zelfde brieven, zelfde foto. Effe kijken?
2007-09-30, 12:22:07   (updated: 2007-09-30, 12:26:20)
anonymous from Heerlen, Netherlands  
I am working on four at a time, Eddie. Which one do you like more? Larisa or Ludmila? Are they twinsisters? There will be a lovely brunette joining them in a couple of days. LOL

BTW Have you (or Skeet, or OJAS or Fjellhare or...) heard of something called Agency of Travel(..).ru? I have a Dutch fellowman in my mailbox who claims that he found my addy there. Odd. Never heard of it! The only connection I can think of is Anton Bezdenezhnykh in the Irina Z.-thread. He is blacklisted as a fake travel agency. (?)

BTW Notice please, that the Header in Larisa's thread has The Bat. Ludmila's hasn't! (Removed?).

BTW (And this is funny): As I said in the beginning of both Threads... The picture-ID's are the same. Except for one: the last one on page 0. Larisa's pic-id is from the regular series (b_img5.jpg). Luda sent it a day later. The pic-id is now: !!!.jpg. !!! meaning...? Do not send; already in use (?).


To be continued...
2007-09-30, 12:37:19
anonymous from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Eddie et al: the Anon from The Netherlands meant the comment where he posted the header. Please hit the Spam-button on that one! Dirk
2007-09-30, 19:52:54
anonymous from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Datum: 1-10-2007 3:32:52
Aan: Dirk van Dellen

How you Monday my Knight???
With impatience waited your letter. Tell to me, what
weather at you? What mood? What for feelings at you on soul? What you
think of me? Forgive, that it is too many questions. I would like to
learn you more and more. I have understood it on your words. I am
happy to know you. For me it is honour. I know, that you count me the
beautiful person. But I want to know fairly, what I need to change in
the appearance? I think, that I am not ideal. I would like to be
better to like you. You know, that I live in Russia in city of
Cheboksary. My city is in republic Chuvashia. It is very beautiful
city. His age exactly one thousand years. In him lives about 500000
people. Unfortunately now it was the city in which a lot of
criminality. To leave on street after approach of night it happens
very dangerously. I never left the city. To travel to me it seems very
interestingly. In the childhood, I dreamed, that sometime I shall go
round all world and I shall see many different people. Ok, At us it is
now rain in the street. For me the friendship very much means. The
friendship is communication between people which pulls together
people. The friendship does people by relatives to each other. They
have one blood, therefore friendship, it not simply conversation with
each other and an exchange of any ideas or experiences. The friendship
is an exchange of souls, an exchange of feelings. The love she is very
similar to friendship, but is much stronger. The love does two people
by a single whole. If the person is jealous loved or regrets to him of
something is not love. For me attitudes with the person very much
mean. And for you? What people mean for you? When people begin to love
you how you concern to them? Once again ask to forgive me for a heap
of questions. I not so like, when to me ask much. dear you have things
which you irritate? I do not like, when the person is drunk. I very
badly treat harmful habits. I do not understand, what for someone
sells drugs, you see it ruins many people. Unless money cost human
lifes? I never use more alcoholic drinks and I do not smoke. I want,
that my children were healthy. I so want to have children. I think,
that human attitudes should not depend on money. Only the love may
give a high-grade marriage. You with me agree dear? I do not have
present friend. At me is familiar and fellow workers, but they never
will go on victims for the sake of me. They only can sympathize with
me if the help will be necessary for me or I shall be in a trouble. I
can trust only to mum. I know, that she will help me always. She will
make everything, that will be in her forces. And now, I hope, at me
very good friend dear has appeared still. Write to me necessarily.
2007-10-01, 00:21:05
anonymous from Netherlands  
yes, ive got same story,and no pictures with it.snifffffffffff<sss>
2007-10-01, 00:25:36
anonymous from Netherlands  
til now money is not important ,only love .ive sent her short mail in reply
2007-10-01, 04:01:06
anonymous from Netherlands  
Hahaha ik krijg dus ook al mails van haar terug, ik denk ik reageer gewoon kijken hoelang et duurd voordat ze geld gaat vragen :D hahaah
2007-10-01, 21:32:04
anonymous from Belgium  
hahaha, i got the same letters, who knows whats happening ??? i do speak russian, so i did reply in russian, but she or he were ignoring my questions, so the people who sends this letters are not russian. the letter that i see here are the same that ive got. there must be some catch in this hoax. i hope someone knows who this people are.
2007-10-01, 22:22:03
anonymous from Heerlen, Netherlands  

Datum: 10/02/07 05:02:32
Aan: Dirk van Dellen

hi my dear Knight,
Today mum has made fried eggs and a glass of coffee for breakfast for me.
Today I am not in good mood. Something like melancholy.
I lack love and caress of loving man very much.
I feel loneliness and that is why i am very sad.
I try to change something in my life, but it turns nothing out for me.
Because of my unsuccessful private life I have a depression every day.
I want to love and to be loved.
I want somebody who love me very much has embraced me and has kissed me.
I am so sad now. Simply it is very sad for me just now.
When you know that nobody waits for you and to live begins very difficultly.
The blue sky turns to gloomy clouds, singing of birds irritates you, cheerful faces of people
cause something like envy.
Why not I? Why not, why am I not smiling and have fun now?
Only your letter force me to smile. I feel support in your letter.
I can tell you all that I can not tell others.
I have not got used to show the emotions.
I tell you about my asdness and it become easier for me. As though you take a part of my bad
mood and pull out it from my soul.
It becomes easier. Thank you that you exist.
I got used to you very much. It frightens me a little.
It seems to me that you are very good and decent man.
I do not understand why women of your country do not see what a good man you are.
They are silly women. They do not see that they lose.
I think that i am lucky that I have got relations with you.
I think that you would be very good husband and father.
The only thing i regret about very much that I have not got relation with you earlier.
I did not know that through the Internet it is possible to get acquainted with men.
And I did not know that in the Internet there are such good men as you are.
My dear honey unfortunately I SHOULD GO. I finish the letter.
My dear friend I shall be very glad to see your letter.
Please write to me.
Your letters give me additional energy which helps me to live.
I wish you successful day and that at you all was good today and always.
I shall wait your letter, Tomorrow i will send you test!
Your Ludmila.

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2007-10-01, 22:24:24
anonymous from Heerlen, Netherlands  

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Dating scammer Ludmila or Luda K.

2007-10-01, 23:22:39
anonymous from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Anon from Belgium: They don't read (y)our letters at this stage. The Money-letter will come soon. After that they read every word to see if you/we are hooked. I tried to get some of the others to write in Russian. They always responded in Scamlish. D.
2007-10-02, 01:08:25
anonymous from Netherlands  
Strange a lot of pictures are alredy visible on this site

2007-10-02, 01:09:00
anonymous from Netherlands  

2007-10-02, 01:09:20
anonymous from Netherlands  

This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Ludmila or Luda K.
Dating scammer Larisa

2007-10-02, 01:09:43
anonymous from Netherlands  

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