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Name: Ludmila or Luda K.


Cheboksary (but IP is forged)

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The full header, her introductiory-letter (two lines in Dutch), her first two formletters and the pics I received untill today.

Ludmila/Luda said she found me on

Interesting: I get emails from another girl, using the same formletters. The girl is different, but the picture-ID's are the same: b_img(number).jpg. Same photographer, same scammer? The other girls' IP is Yoshkar-Ola, though. I will link them if those similarities keep occurring.

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Letter 1

Datum: 21-9-2007 17:34:13
Aan: cindyhorsten@home.NL
Onderwerp: Nieuwe matches op Relatieplanet

Het hallo!
I have found at myself in spam to a basket the letter with with several questionnaires and email! This letter from the Netherlands site of dating! I never tried earlier gets acquainted through internet but for the sake of interest have dared to write to you! If it is interesting to you to learn me also that write to me! Only that I now can tell i live in Russia. To me of 25 years. Children are not present. It was not married! my education university! The Rest I shall write at your return answer! Ik zal blij zijn naar uw antwoord en het verhaal over youself!
Van de joue trouw.
My e-mail:

Letter 2

Datum: 26-9-2007 10:54:46
Aan: Dirk van Dellen

Hello! The new friend! I am grateful to you that you have answered me
and show the friendly relation. With the big desire, the best regards
I write you the answer. I hope that it will be interesting to you to
communicate with me, and it is possible to find out me a little bit
closer. I hope that our further correspondence it will not be simple
game, It is a little about itself: I was born in September 18, 1982 in
city of Cheboksary Would like to tell, that my parents together do not
live. When I was small parents began to live separately. We with mum
live separately. She works as the cook in a private school. To my mum
54 years and she does not look on the age, recently my mum Has met
another the man and probably from she was begun with new life. We
frequently see mum also she lives near me. I rent an apartment and I
live separately. My daddy too lives with other woman, but I with daddy
I support relations. he works as the driver of a taxi and for him the
life, to it of 56 years, The main thing for me that my parents were
quiet in the private life. At present I have no the friend. Studied at
university Now I work on a speciality the agent under the real estate,
I very much like my work, as to me per day It is necessary to
communicate with different people much enough. At leisure I visit a
pool, occupations by sports help me to keep the health In the evenings
I listen to music or I look TV Like to chatter with friends. We like
to walk on city, our city very beautiful and very ancient, I can write
much to you about my city, but I think shall write to you of it little
bit later. If certainly it interests you I very simple person, the
first turn want to tell you, that me most of all in the person
Interests his private world, instead of appearance and the size of a
purse, I like people from which the truth proceeds, And having a
definite purpose in life. Most of all I do not like, hypocrisy and
lie. Certainly in our life there are many bad people, But I think that
is not necessary to pay attention to them, as they of it are not
worthy our attention. But we shall not continue further this theme of
conversation, let's continue about good, What you might inform about
yourselves, your qualities, hobbies? Your vital interests? I hope to
you it will be not difficult to inform about myself? I with the great
pleasure send to you a photo, would like to know your opinion about
me? I wish you all good! With impatience I shall look forward to
hearing from you With the best regards Ludmila.

Letter 3

Datum: 27-9-2007 18:10:04
Aan: Dirk van Dellen

Hello my Cute The knight!!!! I hope that you is nothing I will name
you my knight? Now autumn and consequently it is sad from memoirs on
the lived summer a little! I prefer spring or summer more! What at you
today weather? At us today the rain is not present! But from 5:00 in
the mornings the dense fog has lowered! and was nothing is visible on
distance of 10 meters! It is impossible to go to cars without
headlights! Now the fog has dissipated also all became normal! I can
write about it much, but I do not think, that is necessary to point on
it a lot of attention. It will be more useful if I shall speak more
about myself! My growth of 170 centimeters! My weight of 49 kg! I
Cristian belief! I try to visit church once a month, as I not the
religious fanatic. My preference in the foodstuffs is fruit and a
fish. My favourite flowers it is violets. My favourite music is a jazz
or any other qualitative music. My favourite color is gentle - pink.
Ok, I think what for today to suffice the information about me. I
hope, that you to write about the predilections also! It will be very
curious to me to know about you everything, that it is not a pity to
you to me to tell! You most likely remember, than I am engaged also
what work at me. Let even I write you, That I am tired, but my work is
pleasant to me, and dream to come in normal is now simply necessary
for me Condition. I begin to work with 8.00 till 17.00 as usually I
arrive in office in the morning, Also I look the planned the program
of meetings, I move on city rendering the services. After I carry out
the program, I come back in office and I check the mail. You know for
me not usually to remain after a working day, but I make it with the
great pleasure As to me there is very interesting a dialogue through
the Internet and with you it is very pleasant for me To converse I
would like to ask you how you concern to the to work? That you may
inform me about the work. With greetings, respect and the best regards
your friend Luda.

P.S. My full name Ludmila.

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2007-10-11, 02:38:48   (updated: 2007-10-11, 03:33:16)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Here's number three. Just came in. Didn't answer the other ones, yet.

Datum: 11-10-2007 9:27:59
Aan: Dirk van Dellen
Onderwerp: Re: No mistake

My love! It is simple on the verge of a fantasy! I can understand
nothing! I again went to branch money gram! They speak me that number
not correct! They called to Moscow in the central office money gram!
The same answer from Moscow Has come that they have no transfer with
such number! You should go to the branch money gram and all to learn!
It is necessary to understand this situation immediately! Or cancel
transfer of money and take away money back! Then make new transfer of
money through system western union. You can find branches western
union in the city on a site ( I need to pay my
documents this week! There is no time to wait! Please solve this
problem as I have made all that in my forces! I wait for your letter!
Love! Ludmila.

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Van: Dirk van Dellen
Datum: 11-10-2007 10:37:06

My darling Ludmila,

Your letters are alarming. I transferred the money. And you have the correct number. You can see that on the form.
I do not understand what went wrong. Maybe the bank made a mistake. I will go to the bank. And I will do exactly what you ask.
You have to be patient, my dear Ludmila. I have to find a Western Unionbank first. And I have to work (late shift again).
I do my best to have this problem solved by tomorrow.

Many kisses,


Datum: 11-10-2007 11:29:13
Aan: Dirk van Dellen
Onderwerp: Re:

Ok, my love! I hope that you will solve a problem up to tomorrow! Also
look a site! There you will find addresses of
branches in your city! To me it is very disturbing in this situation!
Love! You future wife Ludmila.

2007-10-11, 09:33:33
anonymous from United States  
Dirk here is my 'It is simple on the verge of a fantasy!' letter.

Sent: Thu 10/11/07 1:28 AM
My love! It is simple on the verge of a fantasy! I can understandnothing! I again went to branch money gram! They speak me that numbernot correct! They called to Moscow in the central office money gram!The same answer from Moscow Has come that they have no transfer withsuch number! You should go to the branch money gram and all to learn!It is necessary to understand this situation immediately! Or canceltransfer of money and take away money back! Then make new transfer ofmoney through system western union. You can find branches westernunion in the city on a site ( I need to pay mydocuments this week! There is no time to wait! Please solve thisproblem as I have made all that in my forces! I wait for your letter!Love! Ludmila.

I will now begin the questioning on what happened to the money that was not sent!


2007-10-11, 10:39:02
anonymous from United States  
My responce to 'our girl':

Sent: Thu 10/11/07 10:02 AM
Hello my Dear,

This situation has become very frustrating, I have been talking with my banking Insititution and Money Gram regarding this matter. Money Gram records show the money was picked up at 3:37pm. That a photo ID was verified and the funds were signed for release! How can this be, only you knew that I was sending this money! My financial institution is now filing a complaint through Money gram with the local Civil Authorities. They have taken my statement and may contact you for some simple interview questions, please do not worry! They suspect it may be internal fraudulent activity related to your local MoneyGram and the police will probably just want your statement and a sample of your signature. Hopefully this will lead to the recovery of the funds! Baby I hope for a quick resolution, that we may soon see each other!

Much love, Your XXXXX

> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:26:46 +0400
> From:
> To:
> Subject: Re[6]:
> My love! It is simple on the verge of a fantasy! I can understand
> nothing! I again went to branch money gram! They speak me that number
> not correct! They called to Moscow in the central office money gram!
> The same answer from Moscow Has come that they have no transfer with
> such number! You should go to the branch money gram and all to learn!
> It is necessary to understand this situation immediately! Or cancel
> transfer of money and take away money back! Then make new transfer of
> money through system western union. You can find branches western
> union in the city on a site ( I need to pay my
> documents this week! There is no time to wait! Please solve this
> problem as I have made all that in my forces! I wait for your letter!
> Love! Ludmila.

2007-10-11, 12:26:36
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Max, he will be in a shock again!!! I sent a little something to calm him down a bit. LOL

Van: Dirk van Dellen
Datum: 11-10-2007 20:24:33
Onderwerp: In between work

My lovely Ludmila,

I came home for an hours break from work. It seems a good idea to use some of this breaktime to inform you about our 'problem'.
Before I went to work, I was at the bank. The manager was very nervous when he saw me. I told him that I am not interested in any of his explanations. The only thing that counts is that there is a problem with our transfer. And I want that solved as quickly as possible. The managers' head seemed to explode. It was red-hot. I almost laughed, can you imagine that?! Hahaha.
Doesn't matter. I ORDERED him to stop messing up our affair. I said to him: 'There is a very beautiful, but disturbed, young lady overthere in Russia. She wants to come and live with me. And I want her. ASAP!! Understand?!' The manager pressed some sound out of him that sounded like: Ok, ok, ok.'
To tell you in short... The transfer was canceled. The money is back here. And now I will transfer it by Western Union, like you asked me to do. The manager said something like: 'Western Union has new rules.' I do not know what he meant. I really did not wish to speak with that character anylonger. But we will see that later, honey.

You see, my darling Ludmila? One problem is solved already. You don't have to worry. I will tackle the next one too. That next tiny, little problem is that I have to drive quite a distance to the nearest Western Unionbranche. I don't have time tomorrow. And the banks are closed over the weekend. I will transfer the money on Monday. Please, go to the agency and tell them that there is a little delay. Tell them that you will pay them on Monday (late in the afternoon) or on Tuesdaymorning. Okay, my love?

Hope you can sleep calmly now! Dream a sweet dream about me!



2007-10-11, 17:38:39
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
They send the same formletters, they send the same pics, they live in the same house in the same street in the same town. Why a different name then?
2007-10-11, 19:23:36
OJAS from United States  
@newbies on this thread

2007-10-12, 02:22:37
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Van: Ludmila
Datum: 12-10-2007 5:51:23
Aan: Dirk van Dellen
Onderwerp: Re: In between work

My love! I am very grateful to you for all that you for me do!
You were not afraid to swear at the manager!
I do not know any new rules western union! To me have told in branch western union that I are necessary to you a full name and the address and anything else!
I will go in an hour per the transport company! I hope that they will agree to wait till Tuesday! Love! Ludmila.

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Datum: 12-10-2007 9:34:46
Aan: Dirk van Dellen
Onderwerp: Re: In between work

Hello my love Dirk. I thought much about you all my morning as well,
and I think much about our life together. I want you to believe me and
don't think that I will betray you, I think that the main thing is
that we should trust each other, if it so that there won't be any
contradictions between us. I want to be a very good lady for you, if
you still want this -) of course, the most interesting thing will be
our first meeting!!! this will be an unforgettable event... I can only
dream of it now... I want to prepare some surpise for you-) you can do
the same, honey=) I want that our life would be abounded in many happy
events and moments... because life isn't that long... and we are to
make it as much interesting as possible, do you agree with me, dear?
this depends only on us. I want to be the best woman in your life and
you the best man... I want to be that lady who will brighten your
life, will make it meaningful... very fruitful... May be I sound a bit
melancholic today, but these are the things I want to come true, and I
simply want you to know about this-) I am not pessimistic, I am always
OPTIMISTIC! honey, you help me to keep my mood always very good and my
head is full of many happy ideas...-)I won't tell you them right now,
this will also be a suprise for you in the future. I haven't ever been
happy with a man, I mean I didn't ever feel anything serious, but at
last this has happned to me, and you appeared in horizon-). I am
afraid to lose you very much, honey. This feeling appears when one
have something or somebody very precious... with whom he or she
doens't want to part for any thing. I will wait a letter from you
soon, my sweety... your honey... Ludmila.

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2007-10-12, 05:26:56
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Luda seems to be drunk...

Datum: 12-10-2007 13:16:06
Aan: Dirk van Dellen
Onderwerp: Re: Surprise???

Dirk! I was very happy to get your more letter today.
Today wasn't any special day in my life execpt teh event that I got one more
message from my beloved... that is you...
Dirk, I can't write you much today that is I am very veyr tired after my
visit to market. I dropped in
at the internet center to write you this short letter of me just to tell you
once again that
I will wait for your answer tomorrow, as I can't think of anyting now but
having a very good rest, my eyes don't obey me now as well as my fingers, sorry,
I love you,
you future wife Ludmila.

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IP = Yoshkar-Ola
2007-10-12, 14:09:55
anonymous from United States  
Here is a link for Ludmila Smirnova <>


A standard Russian Romance scam, but it stands for the sheer number of voice messages this idiot left for me

rozared_red (at) yahoo (dot)

Very interesting voice messages (She was desperate for money)

2007-10-12, 14:31:08
Eddie from Sweden  
Mike...nice site! can hear she's reading those messages. Seems that this scammer's a real woman....makes a change. Or maybe she's been conned into doing it?
2007-10-12, 17:38:13   (updated: 2007-10-12, 17:57:37)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Somebody misses his comments? Two of them are here.

Good stuff!! Wonder what would have happened with the written texts
in case Mike had picked up the phone.
2007-10-12, 21:13:24
Pablo from Mexico  
Dirk and Max:

Great job! Great letters!

I'm really enjoying your response to your (our) girl. She seems so desperate for money and for 'love'. LOL

I'm writing something more ore less similar to her/him.
2007-10-13, 05:16:56
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Pablo: Keep him going! Does he send you pics? Me... No.

Datum: 13-10-2007 5:25:26
Aan: Dirk van Dellen
Onderwerp: Re: Surprise???

Dirk! How you week end? I need say you really have very a big heart
and a very great soul. At present I feel the most lucky person in the
world! I feel as in the fairy tale, my soul is fulled with very
pleasing feelings. I have never had such feelings before which I have
now I want to fly for your letters skyward, you drive me crazy. I
breathe you and get short air. I am looking forward to your letter, to
get one more gulp an air. Maybe this is just a dream? Tell me please
to open my eyes and that this was not a dream. I can not believe that
this real, please, do so to make me believe that this not dream, but
real. Simply when one wait for very long time true and sincere love,
it is difficult believe. I am an optimist and I knew that in this
world there is still the person, who like me wants to have sincere
feelings, sincere love, sincere relations. At present time, in this
cruel world it is so difficult find a person with whom it is possible
to live soul in soul. May be I am just crazy? But this words from my
soul, from my heart, I could not tell these words for the person
earlier, these words were kept in my heart and now it`s high time to
say these words to only one person and this person you !!! I wait
anxiously your new photo in which I can see into your eyes once again
and once again, I want to see into your eyes and see the sea, flowers,
how to sing birds, how to sing your soul................. I do not
want to hide my feelings to you, I write what my heart tells you... I
write only that I feel. I not know for sure, but beside the people
sometimes maybe a sensation,' yes, this my fate,' beside me this
sensation first once. I hope you have an excellent day and fine mood.
Thinking of you each minute each second. Please, don`t doubt in
feelings....... Have a good week end! Sincerely, with kisses to you
your only Ludmila.

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2007-10-13, 06:05:21
Pablo from Mexico  
I received last night exactly the same letter, but no pictures in the last four ones.
I already answered to her and informed her about the money I sent:

Ludmila, my love:

How are you today? How is your weekend? I hope that everything is FINE!!!
I am fine and very HAPPY!

Yesterday afternoon I went to the Money Gram office and I already sent you
the money you need to come! Now everything is OK!. I couldn't write
yesterday to you because I came home very late and went directly to sleep.

Now I woke up early and I want to inform you that I have posted and sent
you $650 US dollars to you. It is about 520 Euros, so everything is fine

You must go to the Money Gram office and ask for this receive code:
26 18 15 40

I sent it to your name and address:
Ludmila Provorova. street ASHMARINA. home-17
Apartment 34. CHEBOKSARY, Russia. post code: 428000

Is this correct?

You must show your passport or some official ID, so they can give you the

My beloved Ludmila: Now we are finally going to meet!! and we shall be
I am nervous but happy, like in a dream!

Please tell me exactly when are you arriving. I need the flight number!

I will prepare a special party for you when you come. All my friends and
family want to meet you. They are nice people and you will like them.
They have seen your pictures and they like you very much, they can not
believe that it is true such a beautiful girl!

My dear Ludmila, write to me soon and inform me everything.

Love and many kisses for you.


So, let's wait for her letter back to me after moving her ass all the way to the bank.
2007-10-13, 10:30:31
anonymous from United States  
I have not heard anything back from the 'Love of my life' since letting her know that there would be an investigation into the thief of the money from Money Gram. I willneed to prode her along with another letter to find out if the Authorities have contacted her or if s/he has just been so busy written you guys, that s/he has no time for me now!
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