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Good day, Chuck!
It's me Kate. I have to apologize for not writing so long, but it was a
crazy hectic week, and finally it is over!
How have you been? I guess when someone close in your area you tend to
be more open in sharing about yourself because
the possibility of meeting seems to be welcoming but I want you to know
I'm not close. Even I'm not in united states,
I'm a girl from russia and I've the reason to like to get to know you.
I want you to know that I'm common girl and
I don't like secrecy and other things like urgency or cant. I want you
to know what is the reason of my reply is. All
my life I live in Russia and I never be outside of and this is the
first reason. I learned in several foundations like
school ,college, university and I have professional medical education,
my speciality is an cardiologist and I've all
certificates and patents for this kind of activity. Do you know, Chuck
how much cardiologist earn in Russia? Sometimes
about less than ten thousand or roubles and it's about less than three
hundreds and seventy american dollars because one
dollar is just about twenty five roubles. It's not so very bad here but
I know that other people earn much more because
they have job outside of our country. This is the second reason but I
have third and it's not less important than previous
two reasons. I havn't any boyfriend at this time, I hadn't husband or
serious relationship before because I learned and
wanted to be professional medic, now it's time for my job and making
family but I don't want to have job here in russia.
I want to have it in united states because the salary is much bigger
and the country is more better and I will have it
very soon because I have the license and my request is in progress. I
have the contract already. Hope you understand that
I will live in united states and I could choose the place where to live
because there are many places where I could work.
I want to find friends in united states so this is the reason of my
email to you. Can I be friend for you? Are you interested
in knowing me? Now little more about me. I enjoy going to movies,
beach, parks and other places. I feel I am definitely an
easy-going, fun, romantic, open-minded, honest, sincere, and loyal girl
also. I hate drama and dishonesty. I wanna go slow
and take our time and feel assured that the two of us have made the
best choice also. Write me back tell what you feel and
if you do wanna still connect with me I think we should talk. I'm
really glad we managed to match each other. So on average
what do you do to pass your free time? I'd love to hear about hobbies
of any kind that really capture your interest. Once
again I want to tell you that I will come to united states after few
weeks or month so we can be friends and maybe meet in
future who knows. As I told you before Kate is my real name in English
spelling, you can call me Kate or Katya (in Russian).
I've attached a new picture for you, Chuck! I hope you will like it!
Waiting for your reply asap, Kate (Katya).
P.S. If you are not interested in knowing me, please let me know, ok?
How are you today? Please tell me do you want to exchange emails often?
Everyday? I could email
you everyday and tell you more about me. I hope you will tell me about
your life and your
country also so I want to tell you that if you will write me short
notes or few words I want
to forestall you that I will appraise your short email as you do not
interested. Please be
honest with me, please be open and if you feel that you don't want to
email me and you are not
interested please tell me this thing in this minute when you think
about it, ok? I will not take
displeasure because it's your choice but I will be very glad if we will
continue our talking.
I hope your emails will tell me about your life and it will not be
short. I want you to know that
I hate a lie or an affectation so please no any games or tricks because
I'm really serious girl
and I'm not looking for senseless chatting, I'm medic and I'm really
want to find friend or more
because I will come in your country. I know that there are many bad
people in this world especially
in internet because they believe in their impunity because nobody can't
see them. I know that there
are many spam and autoemailers in internet so I'm careful. I believe
you know about this things. I'm
real girl and believe you are real as well and your emails to me will
not consist of few words. I've
read that there are many criminal persons in internet also, they thieve
money, asking for help, sell
fakes. I've read in newspaper about this things. The governments of
many countries catch this kind of
people and put them in jail. I really can't understand why people can't
work and earn good money in
this world. I hope I will because I'm going to work in country where my
speciality valued more than
here in russia. I told you that I will come for living and working in
my previous email. I know that
the people usually live in city or in the country. It's interesting to
live in the city but living in
the country is more peaceful, so I don't know where is better in your
country, please tell me? I will
have all papers for it because my education is over and I decided to
build my future in good country
with good wages. What do you think about it? I have selection for
coming in united states or canada,
I have selection in states also. I don't know where I will work but I
can choose it. The salary will
be approximately the same so I don't know where to come. If we will be
more close in future maybe
I could come in your city or near your city and we could have
possibility to meet, who knows but I guess
it's real thing. I don't know anyone from your country and I havn't
anyone from my family there so your
advises will be very actual for me. I don't know where I will live but
I'm sure I will decide. I don't
know the date of my trip now because I'm waiting for papers. I will get
the visa and many other papers
soon and I guess my trip will be after few weeks. It will be great!
There are many employers for good
specialists in your country and there are many companies which allow to
live and work in your country.
It's the business and the ability for good living for people all over
the world. I'm professional
cardiologist and I will use this chance because I want to live. I know
that many people all over the
world take this way so I will also. So I can live in the place where
employers can give me my work. And
there are many places in your country. I will choose the place after
few weeks and will come for living
and working. Now I want to tell you more about me. I'm 27 years old and
my birthday is 9 December, so
I will be 28 in this year. My height is 167 centimetres it's about 5'6'
and my weight is 55 kilograms
it's about 121 pounds. My father dead 4 years ago because of cancer,
his name was Oleg (my middle name is Olegovna)
and he was 53. My mother's name is Elena and she is 56. She support me
in my choice and she is very good woman!
I love my mother. I loved my father. I do believe in God. I'm
Christian, russian orthodox. I have no brothers
and sisters, I'm the only child in our family. I love pets especially
dogs and cats. I like many colours but the
blue as sky is my favorite. When I have free time I like to listen to
music like eurodance, pop, rock and many
other kinds because I'm sure there are many great music in different
styles. I have a hobbie also, it's playing
in tennis. Do you know Maria Sharapova? She is a russian player and she
plays tennis very well. So I play in free
time either. Do you know this game? It's my favourite sport also. I
like to watch movies and the last I saw 'Die hard 4'.
Bruce Willis is the main hero and I like this actor very much. What is
your favourite movie and actor/actress? I hope
you can understand now that I'm a simple girl, a girl who like the warm
weather and warm relations. I had one love in
my life but it was not mutual so it's not started like relations. I
have never been married but I hope that it will
happen in the future. I don't like russian men alot because they are
lazy and drink alot. I do not drink and smoke,
I lead healthy style of life. I hope you like my email and I hope you
will write me about your life and your thoughts.
I will wait for your reply, Chuck.
Hopefully your new friend Katya.
How is your day? Lately I watched a TV and there was a programme about
Halloween. I wonder, do you have the
holiday which is the most sweet? My favorite holiday is New Year and my
birthday. Ok, enough about it.
Did you Chuck ever heard about working between countries for exchange?
People from one country work or study
in other country and people from other country work or study in first
country. This is program which allow to
work and live in country what you want but the education (for working)
or direction of education (for studying)
required. As I told you I will come to north america (united states or
canada) for living and working. I'm an
cardiologist and I prepare for examination for having job outside my
country. There is an agencies in different
countries all over the world which work with different agencies in
other countries. So agency from my country
make all papers for my job and when I'll complete all tests and exam I
will come to place in north america. I
will choose the place in agency and will work and live there because
employers will give me the financial support
provided to the needy and I could live. The exam will be soon and they
told me that I will come because many people
all over the world do this things and I'm the very good specialist in
my speciality. Now I will finish my work in
russia and prepare for coming. I guess it will be after 2-3 weeks when
I complete all procedures and get all papers
for coming. I heard that americans are good people but I know that
there are many bad or good persons in any type
of nationality and country. I guess that you are a good guy and I will
be very glad to know you better, hope you
are too! Now I want to tell you Chuck a little more about me and my
life. As I told you I live in Tara city and
I was born here also. It's a small town in the Russian province. I live
with mother because she is alone and my
father passed away as I told you already in my previous email. I have a
grandmother also and she is 79. She lives
not too far from me and my mother. Her name is Lubov, do you know the
meaning of russian word 'lubov'? It's 'love'.
Hope I could teach you some russian in the future if you want of
course. I like to cook when I'm at home and I can
cook many dishes and I hope one day you could taste my borsch (eastern
european soup containing beets and cabbage
and other ingredients) or my pilaf (middle eastern dish made from
seasoned rice with meat or fish). I want to tell
you why I decided to become an cardiologist. When I was young and
learned in school all pupils think about profession
when they finished school, college, university. I decided to become a
doctor but when I finished the school I still
wanted to be a doctor but there are many professions in medical
direction, so I decided to be an cardiologist because
the mother of my girlfriend is an cardiologist also and she said that
this kind of speciality is very perspective and
a good cardiologist could earn much money, could earn more if job will
be in developed countries and this speciality
is very helpful for people all over the world. So I decided to become
an cardiologist and I'm sure it's the right choice.
I could do any type of an cardiologist's work and it's very important
because I have the possibility to work in any place
and even in europe or north america. I will finish my work after 2
weeks because I will have the examination before my coming.
After examination I will buy the ticket to New York for coming to the
agency which will give me the job. It will be the place
where I will choose the place to work. I'm sure it will be soon. Maybe
I could meet you? It will be great! You know, Chuck
I'm not very good in computer and I have never used the messenger
program before, do you know how to use it? If you have any
questions please feel free to ask, ok?
Your Russian friend Katya
P.S. I've attached a pic from this summer for you, Chuck! I hope you'll
I will be very glad if we could email often to each other, what do you
think? I understand that writing email takes
time but I'm sure it takes more time for me because my native language
is russian and I'm sorry if there are many
mistakes in my english. I told you Chuck that I will have exam before
my coming and I don't know which place to choose.
Can you tell me your address? If I will know your address I will ask
about possibility for coming close to your
location so I could work and live not far from you maybe in the same
state or even city. What do you think about it?
I hope you understand that I must come in New York city first because
there is main office where I will choose the
job place. I don't know the places in your country so I don't know
where to live and work and I've asked about places
where is the best income but they told me that there is no difference
because salary is the same in different places
it's the rule of contract for workers who come from other countries. I
hope you understand. So how is your day? Are
you interested in meeting me in real life or all this just for virtual
chatting, exchange emails? What do you think
about ability for my coming in your state, city? Chuck, I hope you
understand that it's serious question for me and
if you will give your answer about it I will be very glad but please be
honest because I'm honest and I want to tell you
again that I'm interested in knowing and meeting you Chuck! Really! I
feel that you're good guy, but I'm not sure what
is your intent? I want you to know that I will come for working and
living in any case and I don't know about how long time
I will work and live before I get the citizenship and other things but
I will not return back in russia if I will
not want it because the government of other countries are interested in
people who have good education and who could
work for prosperity of country. So I want to live and work for a long
time. There are many peculiarities I like in
man, it's a self-sufficiency, loyalty, intelligence, mannerliness,
generosity, honesty, solicitude. I like when the
man is kind, cheerful, attentive. I love the life and health, I love
children but I havn't any. I think that children
are our future and I remember myself as child and I'm always like a
child in my heart. Hope you're too! How's the
weather today? Today is cold wind and I feel that the warm days will
leave my city very soon. Today I have many deeds
for my preparation for exam and coming but everything is good and I
hope I will do it and I hope the result will be
worthy also. I will wait for your email and I will wait your answers to
P.S. Did you ever hear about winter in Russia? It's very cold!
Sometimes we have about -30 Celsius. Just a curious
is winter in your country such cold as our? I hear that you have more
warm weather in America. Oh, why I asked you
about winter? I just attached picture of me from last winter. I'm sorry
that I sent you only pics of my face. I will
try to find some pictures with body for next time. Ok?
How have you been there? I hope that all is well with you and this
letter will find you in a good mood! How is the weather there?
I hope not bad either! We have a little cold weather here but it's a
normal temperature for this period. Well I have to admit I'm a little
bit worried Chuck. I don't know if you received all my letters and if I
got all of yours. Please look into your spam folder and
maybe you'll find there letters from me or review my previous letters.
I've got a call today from my agency and they told me that I'll have
the test which will confirm my skill in the cardiology by next week.
You know I'm a little bit nervous. If I'll pass this test I'll have an
international license in cardiology! I'll be able to practice all
over the world! Chuck, I want to make things clear and let you know
that as soon as I come to New York I'll sign the contract which
will guarantee my employment for two years. Also I'll have the chance
to make a choice the place (city) to work in. I will stay in New York
for a couple of days and then I'll move out to the city I'll choose. In
fact I want to stay in the New World and never come back to Russia.
I'd like to get a citizenship in the future. Who knows how everything
will turn out? As for the family I think it is also very important for
me. If I ever will get married I'd like to continue my work, but I like
to cook and clean the house in the free time. I want you to know that
I have never used a translator programme to write letters to you. So
you can see how good my English is. I write and talk English alike.
Will my English be enough to talk easily in America?
As you know my birthday will be by December 9 which makes me
Sagittarius. Sagittarius is my astrological sign. What is yours? Do you actually
believe in astrology? I'm a little bit interested in it. Are you?
Chuck, I want to ask you if you ever crossed your country from ocean to
the ocean. As for me I like to travel very much! In fact I have been in
many places in Russia. Since I'm coming soon to America I've got a
dream: to cross America form cost to cost on the car or even on the
bike! I have never ridden a bike and really want to try it! You maybe
think that I'm crazy, but if you would ask what I'd like to see in
America mostly I'll say America itself! Please do not think that it's a
crazy idea, I really like to get to know America from the inside.
Oh, almost forgot, I've just figured out that my phone cannot make an
international calls. I can call to the phones if they installed in our
only. I know it might sounds absurdly, but it is so. I'll try to figure
out if I can call from the phone station. I think it will work. Also
tried to install the Yahoo messenger onto my computer at work, but it
does not work. I'll go tomorrow to talk with the system administrator
was the problem. Hopefully he will help me to understand what went
Ok, I have to go now. I hope to see your reply soon and your thoughts
on what I've written. Tomorrow I will have some free time from my work
and will write you more.
P.S. Sorry, I did not attach a picture today. but I'll do it tomorrow.
We have good weather today: the sun is shining, no wind.
Well I think I figured out what is going on with the letter
sending/receiving. Indeed I have troubles
with getting letters from you. It looks like I'm getting all of your
letters but it seems that the
letters and pictures are delaying for a day or two. Also I think that
this situation is already become
normal. So, please, do not be confused if I did not answer to some of
your questions immediately,
I'll answer them for sure later.
Chuck, I want to ask you to find out one thing: How much does it cost
to rent an apartment in your town?
Please let me know ok? I was told that I'll have to rent an apartment
on my own. Fortunately I was told
that my agency in NYC will give an advance for the first time which
I'll have to repay them in 6 months.
They said that this money will be to pay the rent. So, Chuck, if it's
not so difficult, please find out
it for me.
You maybe wonder if I had a boyfriend before. I think that you have a
right to know about it. Indeed there
was a man in my life. In fact, it is not a very interesting story and
it ended badly. We are not even friends
for now. He started to drink alcohol daily and he was very rude with my
in the last period of our relationship.
I might tell you about it later.
Chuck, finally I found out why I had no success with the Yahoo
messenger. Turned up that the our internet
line is dial up and the internet speed is very slow. Over and above our
system administrator told me that
my computer is behind the firewall, so I can't use messenger. That's
bad, but I'll try to find a way to a
use messenger anyway.
I'll continue to prepare for the test during this week, so if you'll
didn't get a letter
from me - do not worry. It means that I'm studying and didn't forget
about you Chuck. I hope you
will wish me luck on my test.
I want you to know that I went today to my agency and asked them if
they can find a work for me in your
town or even though in your area. They said that they are not sure for
now but it seems to be possible!
I was very happy to hear that. It will be a great thing for me to have
a familiar in foreign country
that can help me to settle down. I'll appreciate if you will tell me
about the life in your country,
about yours traditions and customs. I do not want to look like a
As you know I like hiking and camping. Sometimes I go with my friends
to raft on a canoe. Did you try it?
Very fun! You know I have friend who persuades me to jump out of an
airplane! I'm not ready for this right
now, but maybe someday soon I'll venture. Please do not think that I
spend all my time for sport. I like
to go to the cinema, to the theatre, arts. I like to listen to the
music (very different) and to read books.
I like many things in different periods of my life as the other people
Well I have to quit here. Till then Chuck.
Your friend Katya
P.S. Of course, my pictures for you as I promised yesterday.
will keep you updated as it progresses. I told her/him that I work with special ed children, i'm having a lot of fun with this :)
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anonymous from United States
I too was hit with a attempt of a scam i let it go till the money email came Here it is:
Hello my dear Aaron.
How are you? How is the weather there? I hope you feeling good. I have
some not good news
for us. Oh, I don't know where to start. Today I drove my car to move
to my agency. I needed
to pay last part of my bills to agency. When I came to the agency and
paid them, I got all
documents and ticket in my hands. I was very glad and happy! I wanted
to come back to my home
soon and to let you know about these good news! When I drove car to my
home I got accident!
The boy ran out to the street in front of my car!!!! It was so
unexpected for me, I could react
but all I could do is turn my car to the left side! Because at the
right side was parked big truck
and I couldn't stop without blow to boy at this short distance. The boy
ran out behind of that
truck and I couldn't see him in time. Because of it I turned to the
left and I struck other car!!!
It's bad news. But more bad things are the car I struck was foreign
expensive car and I would
have to pay to fix all damages! The man from that car called road
police and they made up protocol
of accident. The boy ran away and we couldn't find him! So all fault
was mine. But I hope you can
understand that this fault of that boy. But I couldn't prove it because
boy was absent. When the
expert commission said me about sum of money I have to pay I was
shocked and cried a lot!!! I didn't
have this kind of resources! The damages of the foreign car were big
and my car suffered strongly too!
Don't worry I am ok and my health is good. I got only couple of
scratches and bruises. The police took
my car and placed it to the pay auto parking. My car can't move now and
I used bus to come to my home.
The police gave me copy of protocol and other papers and bill to pay
for accident. They said that
I have to pay it in short time and all I thought up is move back to the
agency and ask them about
getting money back. I told them about my situation and after two hours
of talks they gave me money
back. They took back all documents and ticket. So now I have no it in
my pocket and all documents
in agency again! But they said that I have to pay them back during 14
days else they will cancel my
request for getting work in your country!!!!! So they will delete my
documents and will cancel reserved
ticket! Agency said that they can't hold my documents and ticket long
time. So if I want to get documents
and ticket and to come to you I must pay them completely during 14 work
days. Else I will lose all I have!!!
All my dreams will be broken! I will not be able to get new job I can't
start new life in your country but
more important I will not be able to meet you and to be with you
Aaron!!!! This is terrible situation
for me and I am in depression now because even that I got money from
agency it was not be enough
to pay for accident completely!!! So I spent all money that I saved
some years. I wanted to bring some of
this money to my trip and much part give to my mom, but I spent it all.
When I came home I asked my
friends about help that I could pay for my papers and tickets again.
They were shocked and commiserated
to me. We could find some money but I still have to find some funds to
pay for my documents and tickets
that I could go to America! It's not very much of money but I don't
know where to get it! My friends did
all they could and I can't ask them about help again because they will
not be able to help. They would
like to help more but they can't! They said that I can give debts back
as soon as it will be possible for
me. I thanked them. I don't know what I would do if I would not have
friends! I will try to figure out what
I can do and will tell you about my results. It's very important for me
to pay to the agency! If I will not
do it I will lose all documents and will not come to you! This fact
oppress me and put me in depression.
I don't know what to do and what to think up! I can't believe that it
was happen with me! Why Aaron?
Aaron I want to ask you maybe you can suggest me what to do? Honey do
you have any idea how to overcome
this situation? Do you still want to meet me my dear and will support
me morally before I will be here?
Will you continue to write me?? Are you angry for me because of this
occasion and because of that we can't
meet each other??? I hope you did not change your mind on me and still
want to meet me. It was not my fault
but I can't prove it! I just don't know when we can meet each other at
all if I will not find necessary sum
of money during 14 days (till 22 November). Because I will lost
documents and to get new will take about
6-8 months and agency said that perhaps I will not get it again at all
because at the first time I didn't
use it!!! There are many people who want get documents and government
will work with them and not with
person who will refuse from documents some times. I hope you can
understand what I wanted to say. I will
try to get loan from bank tomorrow, but I think that it will not be
success. I know that they will not
give money to person who will left country. Also I will try to sell my
broken car but It will not be easy
because we don't have a lot of men who want buy broken car. I don't
know when I can do it and I think It
will cost very cheap! Also my car was old and this is other reason why
I will not sell it quickly. At least
I think so. But firstly I will need to take my car from parking and to
deliver it to my garage. I think
I will have to use special truck which will transport it. But It's
extra expenses!!! Right now I can't find
any way where to find money. Please write me back as soon as you can
and let me know your point of view.
It's important for me to hear your thoughts. Remember I love you and
want to be with you, Aaron but I am
in difficult situation, I don't know what to do. I need to find money
to pay to agency during 14 work days
else I may forget about new job and coming to your country and about
our meeting!!!! I hope for your quick
response and for your words which will support me and will turn me back
from depression to normal condition.
I will wait for your next e-mail with great impatience. Remember honey
I think of you and never forget.
I love you Aaron!
Your loving Katya.
P.S. Please forgive me if I made a lot of mistakes. I just was nervous
and upset. I hope you understand.
anonymous from United States
here is the one after it does she really thing this day and age people fall for this bull
Hello my darling Ryan!
I hope you glad to hear from me today. I hope you are ok and my last
news didn't totally
disappointed you. Ryan are you disappointed in me? Please write me back
and say me that
I am wrong and you are not disappointed me. I think these words will
help me to overcome
this situation more easily and will uplift my mood. I hope I will hear
from you soon. I will
wait your next e-mail with great impatience. Because I am in bad
situation and I need to
feel your presence and your care. I hope you can understand me. I would
do all I could to take
care about you if you would be in situation like me. But I want to wish
you be lucky and that all
bad things will never happen with you! Ryan I want to tell you some
details about my
accident and want to give you some information about how we can be
together. I searched during
yesterday the way how I can fix my problems and how we can meet in
appointed time. I hope
you will understand me and will try to help us to meet. Firstly in my
last e-mail I forgot to tell
you some things about accident. I already paid almost all money for
accident. I had no insurance
of my car and that’s why I was forced to pay from my pocket. Here in
Russia not everyone have
insurance because we don't have obligatory insurance. If man want to
insurance car, he will do it,
if he don't want, it's his choice. I hope you can understand me. Also
we couldn't find boy and
eyewitnesses. This accident was happened in the evening and there were
no almost any people.
But when I could find one man and asked him about accident he said he
saw nothing! I was sad.
I thought a lot about my car and I decided to left it on a parking and
I will try to sell.
Ok, that's all about my car and payment for accident. Right now most
important thing is where
to find money to pay to agency to get back all my documents and
ticket!!! Yesterday I tried to get
a loan in the bank, but I was refused. I tried to formalize it on my
mom, but she was refused too
because she is a old pensioner and don't have any incoming than her
pension. Ryan, dear, please
forgive me, I didn't want to ask you about any financial help!!!! It
would be last thing I would
ever asked you about! But I don't see any way how to overcome this
situation. I understand that it
may be hard for you, but can you help me with getting money? I am so
sorry and this is a disgrace
for me. I know you thought I am independent and self-reliant person but
now I think you could
change your mind? Am I right? Please tell me that I am not right! I
really hope for it. I am
crying! I am asking myself all the time how it could happen???? Ok,
please forgive me for my
tears. I want to tell you some details of my searching. I went to
agency and asked them about
can you send money to agency directly? They said that they don't work
with foreign citizens.
I found out that they work with Russian banks and Russian citizens.
They even don't allow credit
cards and use cash only. You know Ryan the credit cards are not popular
here and all population
of country prefer to use cash. The person who use credit card is rare!
So they said that I have
to pay them directly by cash like I did it before. Also I went to bank
here and asked them could
you send me any money from your country to me, here. They said that
there is no any bank who work
with foreign banks. You know my town is small. I asked maybe I can find
this bank in Omsk. They
said that there is some banks but to get account there and to transfer
money from your country
Ryan to me will take one-two weeks. I think I don't have so much time!
Sorry but our bank
system works slowly. I have asked employee of the bank maybe there is
other way how to make
transfer from one country to other. He said me that he know company
which make money transfers
in the world The name of company is western union. I hope you know this
company. I remember,
I saw advertising of this company on TV. He said that I need to learn
how they work in the office
of western union and gave me address. I was glad and thanked him. Dear
I found this office
and I learned how they work and what we need to send funds. Ryan if you
have possibility to
use service of this company and want to help me to get documents back
here is information for
you. But I have one problem with using western union service. I know
that it's single way you
can use to help me but I hope you can understand me. I hope it will not
be a problem for you.
I found out that I can't receive any transfer from you Ryan. I found
out it in the western
union office! I can't get it because I am unemployed and have accident
bills. This is our rule
here. I was sad. When I found out it I went to my friend and asked her
about help. She will be
glad to help me. Thanks the God that I have good friends! So if you
will go to western union to
send funds please send it to the name of my friend NATALYA SUTCOWAYA !
Don't forget, use her name!
I need 780$. You can send it in dollars, I will exchange it to rubles.
To send money use this address:
This is address of western union in my town. We will go there together
with my friend. Also
I will need from you this information: confirmation number of
transfer(10 digits), sum of
transfer, full name of sender and address of sender. If I will not have
any of this information I
will not be able to pick your transfer up! Please don't forget, I need
all this information!!! I will
be glad if you will send me information like I wrote here:
Sum of transfer:
It will be more convenient and easily for me. I just want to be sure
that all information is correct
and don't want to make a mistake when I will write in papers in western
union. If I will make
mistake they will not give me your transfer! I hope you can understand
me honey! Ryan now
I want to tell you some details of my trip and of my documents. If you
will help me I will pay
to agency immediately and will get all documents and ticket to New York
City. As you can understand
I lose my ticket on November 8, but I asked in my agency about it, and
they told me that if I will
pay this money before November 22 (my last date) they could reserve
tickets for me on any date than Sunday.
So if you will help me with this bills, I will go to Moscow in the next
day and the day after next I will
go to the States. I have to visit office of agency there to get
additional documents and directive to my
new work. Also I will get advance there(3500$). Unfortunately I was
informed that I will get this money
only after I will sign the contract. So when we will meet each other I
will give you all money back and you
will lose nothing!!! I promise that I will give it back to you! Are you
ok with it dear? I think it's
good thing. After I will get all papers I will come to you! Agency will
take care about my road
from their office to your area! They will pay for it! So we don't need
to worry about it. I will
call you form NYC and I will try to find place where I can send you
e-mail. I will send you all
details of my coming to you and we will be together!!!! Are you glad my
dear! I hope it will
happen and we can be together during November. I want it so much and
hope for you my dear! You
are my single hope in this world! Please don't leave me in this
terrible situation! If it will possible
for you to help me I will go to western union and will try to pick
your transfer up and will get
documents immediately. Then I will write you and will send you all
details of my documents and
about dates of coming! Don't worry I think everything will be ok and I
will be careful with your
funds also my friend will be with me! Also remember I need to pay to
agency until 22 November or
I will lose all: all my documents, opportunity to get it again during
long time or at all, good
chance to get good work and possibility to meet you and to be with you
Ryan! I hope you trust
me and will help us to meet. My dear I decided to make big and serious
step in my life to come to
unknown country, to meet you and to be with you! I hope you understand
that my coming will change
my life seriously but I want it Ryan! I really want it!!!
Ok, Ryan, I need to go now. I will wait next letter from you with good
With hope, sincerely your Katya.
P.S. I have attached copy of my passport and ticket. This is part of
documents I will get.
The agency allowed me to scan it. I sent it because I want to show you
that I am really coming.
This is the ticket that I give back to agency, but if you will help me,
I will make the copy
of new ticket and will send it to you.
anonymous from United States
Wow, Katya is a very busy girl. I just found this web site. I lost count on how many e-mails I have received The pictures that have been posted are all the same ones I have and there are more. So has everyone else been asked for $780?
anonymous from United States
hahaha, I am such an idiot..I was almost ready to send her the money for the ticket that she calimed she could not get after the accident. Thanks to all of you, and a bit of suspicion on my part, I am not parting with my monies...lol This image was also posted here: Dating scammer Katya
anonymous from United States
She is now using a new email addy KatyaBaracina@gmail.com
Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread ....PLEASE READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of grief/homework
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS AND RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).
Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses, and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter. They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait. Furthermore, the majority of Russian scammers nowadays use proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations.
A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!
So....if several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .
# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first.
# scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think with your brain!
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this strange because a serious girl who's looking for a partner usually saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.
# GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level? PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really..
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in her country and a letter from her employer. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Immigration would consider her an overstay risk and never let her in without credit. Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Furthermore, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional, who will take months before they scam you for money (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot them anyway). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It worked for me.