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Name: Nadezhda


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2007-10-14, 14:55:24   (updated: 2007-10-14, 14:56:55)
OJAS from United States  
@newbies to this thread, first read this link by Eddie

http://www.delphifa..p=1#55897

Dirk's updates for Schengen

http://www.delphifa..p=8#56294

US Embassy, Moscow

http://moscow.usemb..datingscam
2007-10-19, 21:25:08
anonymous from United States  
Wow, same letters I got initially. There must be a script she/he works off. Just a generic form letter.
2007-10-19, 21:40:34
anonyGood,day,Tim.mous from United States  
Greetings Tim.
It is very pleasant for me to continue dialogue with you. How your mood? I hope such temperature of you will not sadden? We the second day have rains.
From the beginning of our correspondence I am in good mood.
And even rainy weather cannot spoil it.
You work on cement works? It probably is difficult. For a long time you there work, whether there are at you friends on work? In what your work consists?
You wrote, that lived about mountains. It probably is very beautiful. I never was in mountains, but very much it would be desirable.
My city is between hills on which woods are located.
Also such impression that is proud is created costs on a lawn among a huge wood. From Moscow my city is located on distance about 800êì.
I am fond of sports. Usually I like to be run in the early morning
when plants are still covered with morning dew. It gives the big
charge of energy for all working day. Run is an important part of my daily life. The Russian climate allows to be engaged in different kinds of sports.
In the summer - run, in the winter - driving on a ski and, certainly, skating. In the winter when Volga becomes covered by ice, all day long on it people go for a drive.
From small kiddies up to adult people. You present: the easy frost, a dazzling - white snow and flakes of this snow slowly fall on ice. Beauty!
The truth during a bad weather is necessary to sit at home and to have a good time viewing of the TV or reading of books.
Certainly to sit in the evening in front of the TV bothers, and to look - that there is a bit too nothing, except for the musical channel. In the winter, the temperature reaches 40 % C., even is higher.
In the evening, I can not fall asleep yet I shall not read even a pair of pages of the book. I adore 'War and peace', the Lion Thick. Has re-read this product of times five precisely.
In previous my letter I have not told about the family, I think to you
it will be interesting to learn about her. I have grown in normal family. Attitudes in her developed good, reigned well-being and a domestic cosiness.
Mum worked as the librarian in city library, now she has left on pension. Father has worked all life the carpenter. And all in our family would develop well, if not that fatal moment which has changed all our life.
When to me there were 11 years, with the daddy there was an accident. It is hurt to me to recollect it, I shall not go into details, it became simple daddies not.
Since that moment mum as though have changed. The grief has lodged in her eyes, the pleasure by a life was gone. And only I was and there is a unique consolation for it.
Let's not be about sad.
Tim, I would like to learn about your family. Who your parents as whom work. Whether there is at you a brother and the Sister, in what you attitudes?
Many thanks, that you show interest to my garden. This one of my hobbies, I like to look after the beds. I send their photo.
In the childhood I liked to listen to fairy tales of mum which she
told before dream and to look after loved hamsters. he so interestingly filled the cheeks and charm was such ridiculous and fluffy, simply.
And still I liked to sit with the girlfriend on coast of a pond and to dream, admiring mysterious forms of clouds. We are friends of this girl till now, already more than 20 years. Her name is Elena.
She is my unique girlfriend at present. Recently she{it} has married the favourite person and has moved to other city. We with it frequently stir by phone. She sometimes visits me and we like to recollect the childhood, to not sleep with her till the dawn.
When Elena is not present beside, Vasyok's presented by it on mine 26 the cat reminds of her. It is the only thing the man in my house. Probably sometime you will see him.
You study in game on a guitar? It is pleasant to me, I like to listen to songs under a guitar. Especially sitting at a fire with the good company. You can already play some songs? If yes, to whom you play them.
Something I have sat up, I shall stop probably.
I wait with impatience from you for a news.


With the best regards, Nadez.


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Good day, Tim.
I am very glad, that I've found your message in my mailbox . Acquaintance via the Internet is a new thing for me, therefore I a little bit worry and don't know how to begin the first letter. Beforehand I want to warn you, that my English is not perfect. I hope my letters will all be clear for you.
My name is Nadezhda, I'm 27 years old. I was born in a small town
Zvenigovo deep inside of Russia, in 1980, on July, 9. This provincial small town is very dear to my heart not only because I was born there and there my childhood was passed, but also because of its natural beauty and pure air. But my small town, as well as at the majority of similar places of Russia has a big lack... There are absolutely no prospects for population to stay and live... Architectural monuments are dying, all roads are in very poor condition. It is almost impossible to find a good and well-paid job. It is insulting that our government gives not enough attention to such small towns as mine....
I shall continue about myself: my growth is 5.7 ft, weigh - 148 pounds.
By occupation I'm a doctor - pediatrist. I like to communicate with children and help people. Therefore I have chosen the occupation of the doctor. I studied at Medical University of the city of Kazan. After graduation the University I decided to stay in this city and almost at once was employed in private hospital. In this city I lived four years. But now I live in my native town as my life in Kazan developed not so successfully and I have unpleasant memoirs about that.
In Zvenigovo I was employed in a bureau of marriage registration. I feel very lonely, despite of some of my old friends are still here.
I live in the house of my parents that I got by right of succession. The house is small, but with the garden. I like gardening in my spare time. I raise various vegetables and flowers. By the way, I have a beautiful flower bed before my house - I give a special attention to it.
My job duties are to register marriages and put the information into the computer database. I use the Internet connection from my work computer.
Here I'm finishing my message. It will be pleasant for me to see your photo and learn more about your life.
I hope for the further communication Tim.

Forgive for the small message, it is time to work. I promise next time to write more.

With sincere respect, Nadezhda!

I wait for the fast lette.


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Hi, Tim.

My name is Nadezhda. Actally I live in Russia. I hope it does not
frighten you? If not it would be nice for me to know you better
and tell you more about me... But I would like to find out about
you more!
Waiting for you answer.




2007-10-20, 02:03:03
anonymous from Sweden  
anonymous from United States 2007-10-19, 21:25:08...That's right, it's a form mail.

might help if you read some of the threads.

To any newcomers who find this thread, via Google or whatever. PLEASE READ THIS:

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS AND RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

80-90% of Russian dating scammers are men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in the pics aren't involved because the scammers steal pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. They use form mails and spam programs on semi-automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter. Generally, they won't read your replies until after the money, letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as possible (economies of scale).....and also because most of them are semi-literate criminals who can't speak any English. You can write any crap in your replies before the money letter and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait. The majority ogf Russian scammers nowadays use proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially when he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course. Otherwise it's all guys.

SO....if several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). They might reply to your mails, but they rarely write first. It's the man does the chasing. Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first!
# scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did. (except for Moscow career girls)
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). Think with your brain!
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise (overuse?). A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a studio set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting sleazy pics will only attract cheap guys.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her when you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? (And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet?) Most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English anyway. And what's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level? + if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger.

MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, but IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY! She can get a sponsored visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries...the USA and Canada are almost as complicated. Anyway, a normal tourist visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Be realistic.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.

Visa procedures for schengen countries http://www.bbc.co.u../A1146115

There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional. There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers. One or two (mostly in the Ukraine) are not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot.

But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. And if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know, you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to go and get them. Chercher la femme.
2007-10-20, 06:39:20   (updated: 2007-10-20, 06:45:04)
OJAS from United States  
@Eddie,
I'm not criticizing that your BBC link doesn't work. Newbies ought to know how to overcome some issues when a busy man like you visits 10 - 20 threads. You have done considerably more than what's your voluntary homework. Newbies will welcome a chance for theirs, and actively participate

@newbies

A posting guideline. If your previous post had a link, parsed by delphi (two periods / fullstops .. in succession), Copy /Paste that whole post will fail the URL hyperlink. To overcome this, I saw a German idea, after allowing the actual URL to parse and hyperlink, the next line has this URL with a blank space between http:// and the domain name. This permits the reader to copy /paste into address bar and remove the extra space.

Allowing delphi to parse and make the link hot http://www.bbc.co.u../A1146115
Preventing parse, so this post for future copy / paste http:// www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A1146115

More Schengen links using this suggestion

http://www.netherla..ndex.aspx
http:// www.netherlandsvac-ru.com/index.aspx

http://www.eurovisa..tries.htm
http:// www.eurovisa.info/SchengenCountries.htm

In order to overcome such difficulties, it sometimes may be advantageous to hyperlink a previous post, avoiding Copy / Paste altogether.

At any rate it is a good idea to test the link while the edit button is still available after posting.

@Dirk,
I copied and pasted your supplimentary links - NO spelling mistakes on my part. I'm unable to test them. Let me know if they test OK for you. Dankjewel :-)
2007-10-20, 10:05:37
OJAS from United States  
@Dirk

Your links work fine with a more modern computer. My problem is, if I'm at a powerful computer, there's competetion for it. If I'm home with an old PC I put together with discarded parts, no-one gives it so much as a second look, and I have it all to myself!

Have a great weekend!

Tot Ziens
2007-11-01, 04:23:33
OJAS from United States  
If you're a newcomer who found this thread via Google or whatever, PLEASE READ THIS: http://www.delphifa..=69#58888
@Oldbies, once in a while check these links for information currency
2010-02-10, 19:35:44
Mister x  
The girl named Nadezhda wrote for me since mybelovednet.org, her never travel abroad is a serious and honest woman and her e mail is nadezhda_beauty@yahoo.com: The first letter:
Hello!
I am very glad that you wrote to me. To be honest, I am very pleased
that I had the opportunity to meet you. But I still do not know you,
but I hope that soon we will know each other. this will allow us to
communicate freely.
My name is Nadezhda. I was named in honour of my grandmother. When I
was little, she loved me. I was born on May, 06th 1983 in the Republic
of Mari El, Sovetckiy. I'm 26 years old. I work as an accountant in
the organisation of social protection. But I wanted to work for a
better job, but still I am glad that I work here. After training I was
looking for work, but could not find and I was offered to go to this
work and I went to work. Within 6 years I have met the company of
friends from which I wish to assign one my girlfriend who has helped
to enter to me the Internet world. It has studied me to use the
computer. I think, I should express its big gratitude. She helped me
find a companion, that is you. Through her I met you. I think, it
never would guess to be solved on acquaintance on the Internet.
Today I can freely communicate with you. I would really like to see
our dialogue has a nice extension. It would be desirable to hope,
that, our dialogue will have a same pleasant continuation. I learn
about all of you, it is more than the information which will allow me
more close to, study you.
Will agree, on you just as me, the positive information would be
desirable to learn about the interlocutor a lot of. So, I want, which
you knew, that now in me very positive spirit on dialogue. Now I would
like to know more about you, I hope to have news from you in your
letters.
Are you interested in me. so I would like to give you this smile:), as
a symbol of my attention to you!
I very much hope that this our dialogue will not be stopped.
It will be very fine from you if you answer me my letter.
I want, that you had a small representation about my external form.
Therefore, I wish to present you this photo ...
I suppose, in this letter, I have hidden a little soul, in hope of
reciprocity positive emotions?
With the best regards, Nadezhda!!!
I am sure her is a scammer because sent a photo took in VENICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Mister X  
Nadezhda with e mail nadezhda_beauty@yahoo.com in few letter fell in love with me, is so, so romantic, but the headers of her e mais were of Sweden??????????, other letter:
hello!
How you? I hope, that with you everything is all right. I did not see
your letter some days. But today I have decided to write, as I worry.
I the serious girl and seriously concern this all. I could not write
to you, but I once again will repeat, that I the serious girl. You
have liked me also I wish to get acquainted with you more. I hope you
as wish to get acquainted with me more. And if you do not wish to
speak with me, you and write, I will understand. But do not leave all
it so simply. Write and tell me the reason of that you do not wish to
write to me. I once again say to you, that I will understand all. But
I nevertheless hope, that you have a desire with me to get acquainted
and all of us will continue our acquaintance. I look forward yours the
answer. Please do not ignore my letter and answer. I wait.
Nadezhda.



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