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2008-01-25, 21:56:44
MAX from United States  

Point taken, these threads are good examples of both the good and the dark sides!
2008-01-25, 23:37:24
OJAS from United States  
Yes MAX, Due to delphi refresh cycles I miss a few posts during some visits, a good example in my own thread (LOL!) http://www.delphifa..?p=3#72111
2008-01-26, 00:37:59
Skeet from United States  
I don't know who told the guy from Russia or were that MISinformation comes from BUT,I have 4 Gmail addy's and I can read ALL the IP's just fine!

Here's a link to a recent {1/25} post of mine.The FOREIGN IP is highlighted.I extesively edit out all the encryption crap as it is NOT necessary for our puposes.


2008-01-26, 00:42:00
'S' from United States  
Damn it! no Edit button today ! ??????? Misspelled a few things! {sad smiley}


And neither is that stupid button! LOL
2008-01-26, 01:06:36   (updated: 2008-01-26, 01:08:18)
anonymous from Russian Federation  

Its Eddie said 2007-10-18, 09:15:23 right above my post http://www.delphifa..l#comments :
'# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger. '
Never heard before.

2008-01-26, 05:38:01
OJAS from United States  
It is not the proxy usage that is the problem. It is the trace to its location. If the proxy traces to sender's city, it is normal, sender has nothing to hide their location for. If a sender is supposed to live in a city, RIPE traces to a far away city, possibly in a different country altogether, then the problem starts! i.e using a proxy to hide their location.

Elsewhere I had a post about my former state public schools using proxy in their own building. They were going to centralize to a proxy per district level, but since each proxy is located in the same city for different buildings, they are not trying to hide location, by using proxy.
2008-01-26, 06:19:29   (updated: 2008-01-26, 07:16:15)
anonymous from Russian Federation  
'If she uses gmail,(!!!!!!!) be suspicious too cos you won't be able (!!!) to trace the IP (!!!!!!!). Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger. (?!!!!!!!)'
If I understand correctly what Eddie wrote in this sentence. It has nothing to do with proxy server.

2008-01-26, 07:40:03   (updated: 2008-01-26, 07:59:34)
anonymous from Russian Federation  

I am glad you understood me correctly despite my misspellings. We wont use nuclear missiles against each other today :-))))
The Mother Earth is so small and its better for us to join for fighting with dark side of human nature than to fight to each other for nothing. Its the way to nowhere.
I try to help here as I can. F.e. when I see how russian scammers use pictures of Russian actresses and I write about it and give links to Runet sites. Its in Russian but Western guys can see photos of their 'new girls' and/or google them by names I write in Latin.

I sincerely thought that second meanning of 'blonde' is internationally understandable :-)))
2008-01-26, 08:33:51
OJAS from United States  
A proxy server can be installed for under a $1000. It is the configuration that matters. Is it configured to report itself with a forged / hijacked IP in a different country altogether?

I have not SO FAR seen forged IPs from some countries. E.g., China, North Korea, Cuba, Zimbabwe for various reasons seem unattractive forged IPs for criminals.

Some Europeans SO FAR seem to have escaped scammers' target. Andorra, Liechtenstein, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican have not posted scam victims.
2008-01-26, 13:03:41
Skeet from United States  
I guess there's some misuderstanding here...As Ojas stated IF a proxy is used then that is the IP that will show,no matter what ISP is used.Without one the TRUE IP will show.Like the one in the link I posted,that was GM addy to GM addy and the REAL sending ISP showed. It can get very complicated AND confusing.
If you want to find out more just Google 'hide an IP address',I did once and there's all types of way's to do it.Some you can do in your PC for free.

2008-01-26, 14:49:28
OJAS from United States  
There was a question somewhere (don't feel like searching the thread) on DSL Vs. dial-up, which is used for which? Almost always upstream is (considerably) slower than downstream. Testing it on a T4 line I get a ratio of about 1:14. Check your own upload Vs. download transfer speeds
2008-01-26, 19:41:12
MAX from United States  
Russian Federation:

Agreed, it is much better to work together! If only all international incidents were so easily resolved! :-)

Identifying Russian actresses pictures by name, when you see them here, is a great help. Many of us here are ignorant as to not know the actresses by sight or name. Using google search on the actresses name, websites quickly confirm the identity and expose even the most convincing scammer!

PS: The wording may vary, but it would seem we universally, make light of our beloved 'Blondes'!
2008-01-28, 10:40:17   (updated: 2008-01-28, 10:42:32)
anonymous from Russian Federation  
Thank you people!
I agree with evere word you all posted.
What I meant I will try explain by concrete examples:

A. Organization (LAN/WAN), proxy server

1. from gmail to gmail Cannt trace IP

2. from gmail to corpmail Cannt trace IP

3. fromgmail to yahoo Cannt trace IP

3. from corpmail to yahoo m ail Can trace IP

4. from corpmail to gmail Can trace IP

5. from yahoo to yahoo Can trace IP

6. from yahoo to gmail Can trace IP

B. Home PC, no proxy server

1. from gmail to gmail. Cannt trace IP

2. from gmail to corpmail Cannt trace IP

3. from yahoo to yahoo Can trace IP

4. from yahoo to gmail Can trace IP

Cant trace IP means you can see in letter headers only internal IP like 10.x.x.x and/or localhost and other info but not real IP. At the same time you can trace your own IP (ext.corp or dynamic of ISP/IAP) by some known sites.
I have found even SOCKS (4,5, Chain) for free. Hopefully I dont need it because dont deal with russian scammers so far. Russians can find my personal information over IP address (through friends or money using staff of ISP/IAP).
I hope you can understand me this time.
I cannt trace scammers. If I undestand correctly they use differebt ways to hude IP like re-mail using gmail, sattelite ISP etc. I dont care how but its just one more evidence.

More corrrectly: Доверяй, но проверяй. Doveryai no proverayi. Its supposed to be the Stalins saying. It means Trust but Check (Verify). :-)))

Thank you again for understanig :-)

Have a nice day! :)
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