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Name: Anna Petrovna Sotova


Komi region
Lermontova st.
Bld #7,apt #10

Other Comments:
Hi Michael!

How are you today? How is the weather there? I hope everything is ok!
I'm feeling well. I feel myself completely recovered. I want to thank
my friends. They helped to overcome the illness. My friends visited
me yesterday and I was very glad to see them. We did prepare chicken
fry with potatoes. It was delicious. They actually didn't stay till
late, because of my illness. All in all it was a very pleasant evening.

By the way they granted me some flowers. It was sky blue peonies. As
I wrote you before these are my favourite flowers and my favourite
colour. You should remember that Michael.
I talked to my agent and she told me that all of my papers are ready.
My visa is ready too and it is waiting for me in the main office of
my agency in Moscow. I'll fly out from Moscow and I'll pick up my visit

from my agency en route to the airport. I also talked with her about
the job they found for me. My agent said that I'll have a different
salary from one year to another. My salary for the first year will be
$40 000 USD, and $50 000 USD for the second year. Next 3 year salary
could be raised more, maybe it will not happened, but it will not down
under $50 000 USD. It's for sure. Michael, can you tell me if this
amount of money will be enough for me to live in your area? Let me
I think I will be able to afford a place of my own right away (I mean a

rent), but I'm not sure if I will be able to afford a car. Should I buy

a used car or I can expect that I can buy a new one? What do you think?

What are the prices for the used cars and for the new cars?
I was told that I'll get an advance as soon as I come to NYC. It will
be $5000 USD, which I'll have to return in six months. I believe that
is not a great amount of money, so I'll be very careful with them. I'm
going to reserve a ticket by Thursday or by Friday, not sure right now.

I wanted to make it tomorrow but I've got some affairs which I have to
finish right away. I'll let you know my flight schedule soon.
I watched a TV set lately and there was a programme about the NASCAR
racing championship.
I see it's a very popular sport event in the states. I find it
too. I'd like to visit the race sometime. Is it possible? Is it
I want to give you my address just in case. Here it is:
Country: Russia
Region: Komi region
Town: Lach
Lermontova street, building # 7, apt. # 10
But, please, do not send anything through regular mail. I want you to
know that our mail service is very bad. It is very slow and the cards
or packages could be lost or even stolen! There a lot such incidents
That is why I want to warn you from sending anything through our mail
service. I gave you my address to show you that I trust you enough
I want you to know that I started to feel some kind of affection
you Michael. I miss you letters when I have no possibility to check my
mailbox and to read them. It is very strange. I do not know how to
it. Well, it is late and I have to quit here. I've attached a picture
you. The quality is not very good, but I hope you will like it. I'll
to prepare a new picture for you tomorrow.
I'll wait for your reply Michael!
Your Russian friend Anna

Hi my faraway friend Michael!
It is 4:00 pm in Lach, Thursday. We've got a thaw today and the snow
has melted away. Everything has become gray and gloomy. My mood is on
the zero. In fact, I've got a flue or something like this. I feel
myself terrible. I think I have to see my doctor today. That is why
I'll be short today, ok? I hope you are well Michael and didn't get
sick. It's a horrible feeling.
I talked to my agent today and she said that I have to reserve a ticket

by next week. She said that my visa and other documents will be ready
in a week, so I can start to pack my baggage! I was also told that I'll

have to spend 2 or 3 days in NYC before I'll head to my place of
It will be needed to arrange some formalities and to sign a contract
with the employer. My agent said that I'll be met in the airport. Those

people will help me to reach the office in NYC. All in all I think I'll

come to NYC in a 2 week. It is really close from now. I'm getting
and nervous at the same time. I so used to have my mother somewhere
to me, that it will be very difficult for me to leave her here in Lach.

I'll try to take her to America in the future when I'll get a
I'll think how to arrange it.
Michael, I wonder what places I should visit in America. I've heard of
Niagara Falls, Las Vegas and Hollywood. Maybe there is something else?
Let me know. I very like to travel and to see new places.
I can't remember if I ever asked you about your horoscope's sign. As I
wrote you before I was born 23.12.1978 which makes me Capricorn. Do you

actually believe in horoscope? As for me I do. I find it fun.
I went today to our local connection center and asked if there is any
way you could call me from overseas. I want you to know that I have a
phone but it has a local number only. It means that I can make
calls if they are local only. Do you understand it? I hope. So I think
I'll call you when I come to NYC it will be ok.
Michael, from each letter I feel that I'm getting closer to you. Do you
the same? I feel some kind of connection. I can't explain it right now,

but I like it.
I've attached a new pic of me today. It was taken a year ago by my
Katerina, as usual. She is my best friend. She is feeling well after
car accident by the way.
Well, my doctor is waiting for me. I have to go. I hope that I'll feel
better tomorrow!
Be healthy!
Your Russian friend Anna

Hello my friend Michael!
I am very happy to see that you wrote me! I was not able to check my
mailbox during the weekend, and I must admit I started to miss you
Indeed I'm feeling much better today. It was a terrible weekend for me.

My doctor said that I have to stay at home and do not leave my bed. I
a high temperature and a cough. I'm still feeling myself ill but much
better than during the weekend. I feel that I'm recovering Michael.
A medicine became quite expensive here since the USSR did fall to
I remember the times when everything was for free. It sounds like a
tale now. I have to pay 500 rubles ($20 USD) every time when I see my
I'm not sure if it is too many for America, but it is quite expensive
Russia. I wonder how much does it cost to see a doctor in America. Let
Michael, I want to ask you could you find out what the average
salary in America is. It is very interesting for me to know, especially
your area.
As I wrote you before I was going to reserve a ticket by this week. I
that I'll it by Wednesday or Thursday. As soon as I reserve a ticket
let you know the exact date of my coming! I also will have to pay some
to my agency; because they helped me to find a place to work and helped
the papers. I'm very nervous about my coming to America. I think that I

caught flu because of my agitated condition. It is so good to have
which could hold you on in a hard time. Some of my friends will visit
me today
in the evening. They will help me to clean up my apartment and will
help me
to cook my favourite dish - chicken fry with potatoes. I'm very good at
and maybe someday soon you'll check it out! I like flowers very much
and I
hope that some of friends will tumble to bring me some flowers. I like
asters and peonies. Do you ever heard of peonies? I bet you do not, but
it is
a very popular flower here in Russia.
Did I ever tell you my last name Michael? I guess I never did. Well, my
name is Sotova.
My full name is Anna Petrovna Sotova. So you know now.
Michael, I think we could be a good match. I do not want to push you
and I'm
not in a rush either. Please get me right. I have to say that I
definitely want
to meet you face to face, to talk to you one on one. Only time will
tell if we
are a match, but I'm happy that I have a friend like you are Michael.
I'll stop here. I feel myself tired a little bit, I need some rest.
I'll write
to you tomorrow and will send you a new pic.
Your Russian friend Anna

Hi Michael!
How are you? How is the weather there today? I hope that much better
than here
in Lach. We've got a first snow this morning! It was really beautiful!
was white. I've got up very early today and what I've seen I could name
'The white
I went to my agency this morning and I was told that they could suggest
me some
job's options in your area. That's real great! So I can definitely say
that I'll
come to your area. I don't know how close I'll work/live to you, but I
think it
will not be a problem, right?! I can not say the names of the companies
and if they
have web-sites right now. But I can say that I really wonder myself. My
agent told me that
she couldn't advise what company to choose. She said that I can make my
choice at
New York office. There are some people there who can advise me what
company to choose.
I consider that it is reasonable and I think that I should make my
choice in the
States. Michael, do you know what will be the first thing I'll do when
I come to
NYC? I'm going to call you! I want to hear your voice very much
Michael. I'm still
looking for a chance to call you from Lach but it appears quite
complicated and
expensive. I hope you understand it Michael, and will not be upset.
I don't remember if I ever told you about my town. Maybe it will be
interesting for
you. The name of my town is Lach. It's a small town and the closest big
city is Ukhta.
The population of my town is about 25 thousands of people. My town is
located in Komi
region; it is not far from Siberia so the weather is very rigid here
too. Lach is a
very green town in the summer and very white in the winter! Every
winter we get a lot
of snow. There are some cinemas in Lach, we even have a theatre. The
streets here are
narrow, but it creates some kind of cosiness. I like it. I love my
town, but it's time
for me to leave it. Maybe I'll back someday, who knows. I think the
hardest thing for
me will be to part with my friends and relatives. I used to spend a lot
of free time
with them, I'll miss them. I'll also miss for my apartment. It is
actually not big (It
consists of 2 rooms), but very cozy. My apartment consists of bathroom,
dining room,
hall, lobby and bedroom. I wanted to make a new design for it but it is
not actual for
me now. What can you tell about your surroundings Michael? I'd like
to know.
I must admit that sometimes I feel myself really confused because many
of the questions
you asked I already answered in my previous letters. I don't know how
to check it but
I'm wondering if you received all of my letters. It is a strange
situation. Maybe some
letters didn't get to your mailbox right away? I do not know why that
I've attached a new pic for you today. My friend Katerina did shoot me
last spring. You
probably admitted that I look different in my photos?! I actually like
to look different.
In fact, I'm not a natural blonde. I like to colour my hair. I hope
it's not an issue
for you Michael? I tried some colours but I think that the blonde hair
is the best choice
for me. Don't you think so?
Ok, it's getting late here. I have to close now. I'll write you
tomorrow Michael. It is
so good that I have so much free time this week so I can write you
everyday. I hope you
don't mind that I write so often.
Your Russian friend Anna


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2007-11-27, 12:20:00   (updated: 2007-11-27, 12:26:08)
Eddie from Sweden  
WOW!...this thread has been busy today

PBR...good advice!! but were you implying earlier in the thread that OJAS and I haven't been a help to you?

not all the Russian scammers use proxy servers, and all information is valuable. I've posted lots of scammer headers with the originating IP.

anonymous from Canada 2007-11-26, 18:38:06

ah yes, the stories of 'people getting murdered in Russia', give me a break! I've been there twice in the last 15 months, once last summer and once in the spring. What is it with you guys and your prejudices? Moscow and St Petersburg are two of the finest cities in the world. Beats North America. Even Yekaterinburg was OK once I got used to the crappy weather and the exhaust fumes. Ulyanovsk was a shithole but worth the experience. I felt a lot less safe travelling in Brazil and Guatemala, I can tell you. (or Detroit). Don't believe all the rubbish they feed you.

If you check the info on any of the established anti-scam sites, eg, they all give the same advice. If you're seriously interested in a Russian/Ukrainian girl, you have to visit her in her home city first. For one thing, it's the conventional and gentlemanly thing to do, secondly very few respectable Russian girls will accept a foreign trip from a stranger on the internet. They have silly scare stories in Russian too, you know. But if you're not adventurous enough to go to Russia, you may as well stay in your condo in downtown Toronto. You could still get 'scammed' by a gold-digger when you get there, who knows? We had one guy on the site a couple of months ago who experienced this in Ukraine. But let's face it, it can happen anywhere. It's the risk you have to take.

But you're right about one thing, there's no way of telling who's talking on the end of the phone....not the first time at least. After 6 or 7 phone calls, it gets pretty obvious. However, I've talked to three Russian girls on the phone and met them all IRL. It's so EASY to tell if you're dealing with a real girl. Are you saying that I just got lucky? Or do i just have more than half a brain cell? (OJAS will correct me and say that's impossible).

Communicating by webcam is a good idea and fun, but means the girl has to have an Internet connection at home. Most Russian internet cafés don't have webcams. And outside Moscow forget it. Internet cafés are still relatively expensive in Russia. And very many Russian girls can't really afford to spend all their money chatting on the internet, webcam or otherwise.

So although your webcam idea is a good security measure, it's also unrealistic, counterproductive and a little paranoid. The only Russian girls you're ever likely to meet will be rich and living in Moscow. And believe me, you'll need to be VERY rich (or incredibly good looking) to get them interested in you. You're dealing with a completely different mentality here.

Don't take my word for it, but I speak from experience.

2007-11-27, 12:24:24
Eddie from Sweden  
A letter that a Moscow woman on (well off, independent, fur coat, car) sent me to illustrate the mentality of Moscow women, and what I am talking about. While we are talking about their 'racks' and their 'butts', this is what they are talking about.

'What’s about your English, it’s better to write like this, isn’t it? In Cyrillic alphabet it’ll not come through my mailbox….
So…as for me, I can see from the beginning what guy is looking for…. Some are serious, but they are often scared of pretty and smart women. They usually ask:” Why you are here? Can’t find any boyfriend in real life or only looking for adventures or smth. Else?” Better not to send very crazy or sexy pictures….something more decent, but warm looking (like your picture is) . Old guy are usually don’t trust, they only like to play games, very great patience you must have to assure a such kind of man about your serious intentions to him. Very many men invite to spend time for vocations, even younger men…… But you never know how it can be turned out…..may be you can fall in love.
But always girl must check the information about the guy before coming to him : so many maniacs ! If you are going to visit him in his country, buy a tour better with a hotel, also make individual tour, but always ask for invitation from him . You can keep it without use, but you will need it if you be involved in some negative situation. I know many stories….
Also try not to use network here…I was disappointed…they(men) also chattering among themselves about women on site…, they invent a lot with their sick mentality sometimes…..
Attractive and young guys…. I also love them… I had one guy before…..crazy love, three times I saw him…..and nothing just now. But I met him not in internet(such guys never waist time on line!!! They can have a lot in real life)Then I met another man(50y.o.) here, and also visited him last month. And now we are going to meet again soon the same place. But I like him like a person, and may be we could marry, I don’t know, but I would like to. Here are photos of both those guys, try to compare the difference in characters….. Older man is seriously intending , have more incomes, but rather doesn’t like to spend much money. Younger guy didn’t have so much, but could spend everything he had for me, like to give all fire of his heart and all energy. Old men usually possess much money, but they can’t be generous like young do, they also can’t fall in love crazily(they can to fall only stupidly). So, you can always find in internet everything you are looking for: pretty guys, wealthy men. But money cost much more than their nominal in these situations as I could discover….. See yourself: a normal goodlooking man with money and healthy mentality always can find a woman in real life, but if he is here- something is wrong with him. So a girl must chose herself what she can hold and what never can.
I could tell you more things about all these stuff, but I don’t know you well, understand?
But is it important for you what country to go for marriage or what? What countries are more interesting for you? Scandinavian men are the most greedy in the world. They will always try you pay youself for your visit and also bring them some profit………
American are generous , but they are so lazy to move from their country, and you can’t get visa to go there, so how to meet?
Do you have many friends on-line(men)? Do you use other sites also?
Hear from you later with pleasure.. '

2007-11-27, 12:55:03
OJAS from United States  
LOL Eddie! :-)

I'm not sure if anyone is implying we aren't helping them. If anything, in other threads it is au contraire.

It could have happened a question was posed, and none of of us got the chance to see it and a few pages have flipped since.

I try to give some info, including my failed attempts to find an answer. I do not even visit African threads. In a typical delphi session it's about 17 threads I visit for ensuring newcomer info is available readily in new pages.

I even have suggested that if a question is posed on a different thread, attention can be drawn on the thread with most comments on the top left pane of this page.
2007-11-27, 13:40:59

Of course you've been a help, the presence of dedicated people like yourself and OJAS keeps it going positively.

Regarding the headers from anna07, the originating IP jumps virtually all around the US. I highly doubt this scammer is traveling the US countryside merrily scamming as he goes.

I still do however think this group may be in the US, and they may not necessarily be only interested in wire transfers to Russia - maybe they're only after phone numbers, maybe physical addresses, maybe the money letters will ask for wire transfers within the US. We don't know because we aren't them - and the best thing we can do is simply post about it in hopes someone will stumble in here (as I did) and be warned.


2007-11-27, 14:47:06
Eddie from Sweden were right to be civil to anonymous 921. To be honest, I found him a bit a stuck-up besserwiesser. But should have tried being more civil myself.

I see your point about the IPs. If you're tracing them already, there's no point in posting. Dutch Dirk had the same theory as you about the scammers' locations a few months ago (and others). The truth is that they could be anywhere. However, sometimes they have computer problems and fail to connect with the proxy. The IPs always show Volga Telecom, Mari El. As a result, we discarded the 'scamming round America' theory.

In fact, Russians would find it a lot easier to get into Sweden, Finland and Norway via the Baltic States and could make just as much money here, if not more. We already have a growing crime problem in Stockholm that originates from the Baltics, many of them ethnic Russians, and the Russian Russians are not far behind.
2007-11-27, 14:50:09
Here's Russian quick reference http://www.delphifa..=93#63232
On the same threads is ongoing scammer activity. Hit him hard in any language till he disappears
2007-11-27, 15:31:16   (updated: 2007-11-27, 15:33:16)
Eddie, My favorite person I've met in the past couple of years is a Swedish woman, I never heard her say, 'besserwiesser' but I have a pretty good hunch. I think even though this forum is anonymous, all people (no matter the nationality) understand the underlying intent of what someone writes. There is no doubt your underlying intent in these threads is to protect people. There is no doubt anonymous 921's underlying intent was to share his experience with a scammer and help others. Even though there was miscommunication and misunderstanding, both of you understands and believes the others good intent - how people deal with miscommunication and misunderstanding is how people develop into being the best people we can be, in other words, it's all good.

OK, enough jr. philosophy... Thanks for the idea that at some point a valid IP may appear in a header.

2007-11-27, 17:08:16
[hidden] from United States  
Hi my dear DUMB ASS!

How are you there today? I'm fine! The weather here is great! The sun is shining and there are no any clouds in the sky! It's 5 degrees below zero and there is a mild wind from the south. I like such weather very much! How is the weather there?
I hope not bad! Today I feel myself very good. Guess why? I talked to my mother's doctor and he said that the recovering goes well. It's very good news for us! I talked to my mom this morning and I found her in a good mood.

Well, I tried to find more money yesterday, but it seems that I took off all money from my relatives and friends already. I also tried to formalize a loan to my aunt Elena, but since she is a pensioner and does not have appropriate income to get
such loan I was refused again. I started to feel that the things will not work out for me, but I decided to go to my agency and ask them if I could get an advance ($5000) which I'll get in NYC here in Lach. But I was disappointed again. I was told that I'll get my advance as soon as I'll sign the contract. When I'll sign the contract I'll get this money in cash or they could be deposited into my account which I'll have to open. I was absolutely upset DUMB ASS. I asked in the agency if I could get a loan but do not tell in the bank that I'm leaving to NYC. And I was told that when I'll pass the registration in the airport I'll be
check out completely - they will check my documents, baggage and my credit history! And if I have a debt I'll not be allowed for boarding. They showed the simple example: Let's imagine that somebody got a loan of $100000.00 dollars (or more) and fly away. In this case the bank has no possibility or law to return the money back.

DUMB ASS, I have to confess - I made a mistake. I spent my money that were destined for my agency and paid the medical bill. I hoped that I'll be able to come to NYC and get that advance. But as I wrote you above it is not possible. So my agency
will not give me my documents and I will not be able to leave Russia. Because I have to pay them for the documents they prepared for me. All of my documents are ready and everything is set for me now. I have to pay $2000.00 dollars to the agency. So $1050.00 dollars, that I already paid, were spent for the preparing of different documents like passport, visa,
certificate and etc. And the $950.00 dollars is going to be a fee for the agency.

DUMB ASS, I want to ask you about if you could help me to overcome this situation, because you are the only one who can help me in this situation. I have already asked my relatives and friends about help, but they can't help me anymore. They
said that it will take some time for them to come up with such amount of money.

DUMB ASS, as I wrote you before I need $960.00 to pay my agency for their service. I don't want to realize that all of my intentions and hopes were for nothing. Please help me DUMB ASS. I don't think I have somebody that I can ask for help else. As I told you before as soon as I get to NYC I'll get $5000.00 dollars in advance, so I would be able to repay your
money to you immediately! I know that you might think that I want to deceive you, but it is not so DUMB ASS! There is no reason for me to do so. I trust you DUMB ASS - trust me. I even attached the a scan of the ticket for you. So you can
see that I'm really coming. You see I was forced to delay my flight due to these problems and reserved a ticket on December 2. I hope I could be in time to get together the money.

DUMB ASS, I don't feel myself comfortable asking you about the money, but this is the only way for me to rearrange the problem. DUMB ASS, you see I'm very nervous right now and maybe I've made mistakes in my letter, but I hope you can
excuse me for this. I have tried to find out if you could help me and my friends told me that you can send the money via the company which makes this service. I asked about it in the bank and I know now that reliable and fast company exists which make remittances all over the world and it's called Western Union. I remembered that I saw advertising of this
company on TV. I've taken a directory book and found the address of it.

The western union branch is located in the city of Ukhta. It's not far from me. You can see it on the map I sent to you. I went there and I've asked them about their service. They said that a sender must go to the western union branch, give them information:


They said that the branches of it must be everywhere all over the world. I have found out where is the Western union here (by the way, they have a website, called There is no any branches of Western union here in Lach, but we have branch of Western union in the big city named Ukhta, this is about 50 kilometers from my town. It'll not be a problem to move there. You can send the money using western union according
following data:

UKHTA , 169300

Shabalin Roman is my bank agent. I want you to send the money to him because he is an official, and he can withdraw the money without any fees and taxes. In a case if I'll withdraw the money by myself I'll have to pay a tax. It is 38 percentage from the transferred amount! It is a lot of money! So it will be better for me to hire a banker to withdraw this money. I
hope you understand it. As soon as the money will be transferred we will go together (my banker and I) to the bank.

We must tell them


which will be given to you DUMB ASS! Please don't forget to send this information to me, ok?

I want to let you know that I need this money ($960.00) before December 1. So if you can please help me DUMB ASS.
DUMB ASS, I have never wanted to offend you somehow but as you can see my situation is very serious and I will never ask you about help if I had any other ways to make this problem solve. I'll wait for your reply anxiously.

With Deep Affection for You!
Your Russian g/friend

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Dating scammer Anna Petrovna Sotova

2007-11-27, 18:06:31 from United States  
rating is good for amatures to learn but it works without paying a penny.

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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:28:36 +0300 is is this guys/gals dsl modem address! 14:28 +0300 puts him in central standard time in arkansas USA. The dsl modem is the give away.

He/she they are probably using all major free email services and hitting the dating intro sites for potentials.

I don't need to know your name or anything from anyone! just a or similar and a time stamp. From anyone who this person has asked money from or sent it. This goes for any other Usa from origin sender addresses.

I am not FBI or any other security agency. I just want to get some proof where I can provide substantial information to bust this guy for inter-state mail fraud. Just post a sender header and I'll get it. Only where you've been approached to send money or actually sent money you can go to your local authorities fbi etc if you've been had. There is likely nothing will come of it aside from the fact they will probably ask for your pc.

For example to tip off a spammer is to know that they are being traced. Had I known that many of you were exposed to this until I googled it I had enough info already until I found this thread, I previously deleted my emails. Again however I need some hard proof of somebody getting a proposal from a USA trace-able dsn or a hard dsl modem asking for money.

No details of the email required. Just a few time stamps and addy's to establish cause and areas of origin. Since I am still getting emails, this person is driving hard for another score. Anybody have the guts to join the hunt? I don't expect much enthusiam and understand.
2007-11-27, 18:48:07
anonymous from Canada  
As soon as i get a request for money i will
send you an email header untill then there is no
2007-11-27, 19:17:20   (updated: 2007-11-27, 19:20:39)

You missed a post or two in this thread. Arkansas is only one of many 'originating' IP's from the scam which indicates an anonymous proxy server. If you had kept your emails you would know this.

The only interesting things about this scammer are the writing style/money letter timing and the unique domain twist -

anonymous from Canada, with all due respect to both parties, I wouldn't be sending emails and information to someone you don't know on a forum, there is no point, particularly in this instance.

2007-11-27, 20:48:55
anonymous from Canada  
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2007-11-27, 22:13:18
anonymous from Canada  

What emails what forum ? I don't understand what you are saying,
i never sent any emails to anyone in any forum. I just returned emails
i received in my email account box to the person who sent them.
2007-11-27, 23:00:26   (updated: 2007-11-27, 23:05:44)
anonymous from Canada, I'm talking about this Delphi forum. A poster on the previous page (12) asked for a header, and you responded, 'As soon as i get a request for money i will send you an email header untill then there is no crime.'

I think it's great to post headers stripped of your own personal information here on this forum. I was simply stating it's not necessarily a good idea to enter into random email discussions with people you don't know. I doubt someone with a bellsouth account is a Russian scammer, I was writing in generalities.

Anonymous forums are valuable in many ways, one of which is the ability to freely pass information while retaining anonymity.

2007-11-27, 23:42:06   (updated: 2007-11-27, 23:47:49)
Eddie from Sweden  

Why is some of you guys don't even bother reading the posts? Is it an ego thing? I asked for email headers a couple of days ago and nobody posts any. Then PBR says he's traced this scammer's IP addresses to different proxy servers in the USA anyway, and there's no point in tracing them (although I still think all information is valuable). Suddenly there's loads of headers posted on the thread.

PBR...could be a different anon Canada from the one you posted to. There are quite a lot of them on this thread.

I agree with PBR! THE SCAMMERS ARE NOT IN ARKANSAS!!! I have posted before, they're using proxy servers and/or forged IPs (also known as 'spoofing'). But this still seems like a typical Russian scam operation, more sophisticated than most. The English in the mails is better, using a different mail system than usual. Obviously scammers evolve their techniques, just as our knowledge of them develops.

If you don't know what a proxy server is:

If you don't know what a forged IP is:
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