DelphiFAQ Home Search:

Dating scammer Mila Ivanova

 

comments30 comments. Current rating: 5 stars (8 votes). Leave comments and/ or rate it.

Name: Mila Ivanova


Email: lovekitty920@inbox.ru


Address:
Tommot, Russia all I got at moment


Other Comments:
second hit in two days..and she is a ugly. i smell a scam in the air
I?m very happy that you wrote to me. I think now it?s time
to
introduce myself. So, I?m Mila Ivanova, I was born on 17 th
of
December, 1983 in Russian town Tommot, which is Yakutia. I?m 23
years
old, my height is 173 cms or 5? 7?, my weight is 57 kgs or 125lbs.
The
color of my hair isn?t very easy to define ? I?m constantly
changing
my image, but now they are of that color which you see on a picture of
mine. Well, excuse me for my English ? it?s not that great,
because I
was studying it at school and then at college. Though my teachers
would say it?s rather good. As for my life, then I must admit
that
I?ve been trying to find a right man for me, but it seems to me
that
there aren?t any in our coutry. They are always playing games of
just
drink vodka every day with their ?friends?. I can?t understand
them.
One girl, my friend, left for Australia 2 months ago and she?s
happy
there. And then I thought - why can?t I try, too? I must do it to
find
my only man in this world ? and if the Internet can help me ?
why
refuse? And when I found your profile on this site I felt something I
can?t explain, but I liked you at the first sight. I hope my
intuition
won?t fail me. By the way, don?t worry if I?ll be writitng you
not so
often. The fact is that I don?t have any computer at home and I go
to
the Internet Cafe to send letters. I?d like to know more about you
?
about your job, your interests, hobbies and your life on the whole. I
would also like to have your pictures ? the more, the better.
Though
the appearance isn?t very important ? I just need to see your
eyes,
they say more about a man than thousands of words, they are the mirror
of the soul. Looking forward to your letter, Mila


Comments:

You are on page 1 of 2, other pages: [1] 2
2007-11-07, 09:51:07   (updated: )
[hidden] from United States  



Keywords:
2007-11-08, 13:42:01
anonymous from United States  
Thrid letter and its all about marrige and being poor
2007-11-09, 22:22:43
anonymous from United States  
Here's another Picture of this scammer. She's a fake. This is her letter about being so so poor. This is like this fifth letter and she's already in love. Is that normal?

Hi my dear Blank! I woke up early in the morning and went for a walk to
the park. I thought about our relations a lot and it occured to me
that we’re like two mountain-climbers who try to reach each other at
the mountain top, climbing it from the opposite sides, overcoming all
difficulties. And I know that it’s not an easy task for us, but we
must manage – for the sake of our happiness. I’d like to see your
country and people. In fact, I’ve never been out of Kalmikia before,
but I heard that people in your country are much happier than here, in
Russia. Bandits, corrupted g-men and terrorists rule this coutry and
our president can do nothing about it. It seems that he just doesn’t
care. By the way, I was paid the salary today – you are sure to find
it ridiculous, but I got only 87 USD in month. You know, it isn’t easy
for a girl to find a proper, well-paid job here, in Russia. But all my
problems seem so unimportant to me now, when I have you. I hope you
love me, cause I can say for sure that I really do. I love you. I
should never have thought that love could be such a wonderful feeling.
I always read you letters over and over again, from time to time I
even read some places to my mum. She’s glad that I have such a man as
you. I often have dreams that we live together, we are happy and love
each other. I sometimes even hear our kids laugh and I wake up
smiling, so happy I am! I’d like to call you ‘my love’ if you don’t
mind. Looking forward to your letter, yours ever, Mila.




Keywords:
2007-11-09, 22:36:07
anonymous from United States  
Here's another. YEAH RIGHT!!! It's shoo believable.


Hello my love! I was very pleased to receive from you the letter.
I have visited church, and asked about our meeting. How you there
without me? I'm feeling myself so lonely here without you. You are
always with me in my dreams. You show very strong interest to me it
very pleasant to feel. I'm thinking a lot about us, about our future.
I hope very much to meet with you very soon. I'm very grateful to you,
that you trust me. I'm in very good mood. I want to know all. You are
very important to me. When I began to correspond with you, I had a
hope, that everything will be fine in our future. With each your
letter I have understood, that I have found a man, who is necessary
for me. I as well as you want to see, that you trust me, it would be
desirable. I want to capture you tenderness. I examine that the
creation of the spiritual emotional basis of the man is exact and it
is meaningful the purposes of formation of family. I want to say that
my feelings and words concerning you always were, I'm sincere also
always understood, that we put a lot of trust, that our union would
be, when it is real. Now I'm sure concerning all 100 , that I can
trust you. And you're that man, who is necessary for me. When I read
your letter, I saw in it your sincerity and fidelity to me. I have
made of your letter for me the directly large conclusion, which I can
express in just three words - I LOVE YOU. Today I even felt so highly,
in me by all was going so easily, because my ideas were directed
concerning you. I as knew, when I think of you, and you think of me,
and it to heat up my soul and body. You probably think, that I examine
such not modern, but at first time I should have affinity with the
favorite man. Now in me the large propensity to you, I do not know,
why but it - truth. Sometimes I have such dreams, that it is a shame
to me to speak about it. I had a dream tonight. In my dreams we had
supper with you, at your home, with candles and champagne, and later
we went to the bedroom to sleep, and we began to make love with you.
But in life I know very little about making love, only on television
films and would like to study everything with you. The justification,
that I speak with you so sincerely, but I think, that you should know
concerning me only. I would be happy to visit you, it's a limit of my
desires. I love you very much and I completely trust you. Kiss yours
Mila.





Keywords:
2007-11-09, 22:38:38
anonymous from United States  



Keywords:
2007-11-09, 22:42:28
anonymous from United States  
She's much too beautiful to be the one responsible for this scam. It's gotta be by an ugly Man who's just using her pictures. I'll bet she is a poor Russian girl who got paid to let him take her pictures. But I'll bet she didn't get much.
2007-11-10, 04:22:58
OJAS from United States  
If you are new to this site, PLEASE READ: http://www.delphifa..?p=0#59896

@allbies, once in a while check these links for information currency [Link Version 2007-11-08, 13:42:36]
2007-11-10, 14:48:13
anonymous from Sweden  
Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread....

PLEASE READ THIS! and save yourself a lot of trouble/homework.

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS AND RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).

Most Russian scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They often use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses, and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter. They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait. Furthermore, the majority of Russian scammers nowadays use proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations.

A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

If, by any chance, you don't believe me, read this: http://www.cheboksa..mers.html

So....if several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first.
# scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think with your brain!
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this strange because a serious girl who's looking for a partner usually saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.
# GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level? PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really..

MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!

She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in her country and a letter from her employer. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Immigration would consider her an overstay risk and never let her in without credit. Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Furthermore, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.

NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.

There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional, who will take months before they scam you for money (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot them anyway). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It worked for me.
2007-11-10, 21:11:54
imnotafool@yahoo.com from United States  
here is my second letter since first contact.. pictures about same. be wary of singlesnet.com the scammers are everywhere basically watch out for anyone 5 foot 7 inches is most common trait and between 120 and 130 lbs. perfect size i guess for all scammers.
Hi my dear fool#$%! I was glad to get your letter. I think that
you’re a very sincere and honest man. Now I’d like to tell you
about
the place I live in Tommot, Russia it’s a small town with a
population
of 9,000 people. It’s very beautiful here in summer, though
it’s a
prarie area. My mother is Yakut, my father is Russian, he came to work
here after he’d graduated from the University. Though I don’t
remember
my father well – he died after the accident when I was 5. Now my
mom
works at the library. I myself work too, I’m a kindergartener
by
profession. To tell the truth, our salary is harldly enough to scrape
up living. My grandparents help us as much as they can. They live in
the country, 30 kms far from us, they have their own garden and
kitchen garden, that’s why we have no problems with foodstuffs. I
also
try to visit the in the village to help them as often as I can. My mom
and I get along very well and even when we quarrel we make it up
quickly. She’s glad that I found you, she keeps on telling me that
I
should have a better life. I often say to her that I don’t want
to
hurry – I need to get to know a man better first. I sometimes
dream
that I found that special someone, we got married and live happy with
two kids – a boy and a girl. We take care of each other, we are
loyal
and honest… But now it’s only a dream. Kisses and hugs, yours Mila.
2007-11-10, 21:15:20
imnotafool@yahoo.com from United States  
thrid letter and im really bored already...........
Hi my dear nextprey! Something strange is happening to me. Every
new letter from you makes me happier. My feelings to you are getting
deeper every day, I can’t say what it is, but I hope soon I’ll be
able
to tell you. I pray God you are the very man who will make me happy.
By the way, I’m Christian, though there are a lot of Buddhists
here,
in my town. But they are very peaceful. That’s why christians
and
buddhists live here in peace. Well, I’ve nearly forgotten to tell
you
that I also try to keep fit and that’s why visit fitness club thrice
a
week and prefer different fruit and vegetable salades. But mom and
granny say that I’m a very talented cook and I must tell I
really
enjoy cooking for our family holidays: appetizers, main dishes (meat,
fish or paultry), desserts and what not. I myself can also eat some
lean meat and sweet, of course, especially ice-cream. And what is your
favorite food? As for my interests, I love to read, mostly foreign
writers: Shakespeare, Byron, Burns, Whitman, Hemingway, O’Henry.
Among
Russian novelists my favorite are Tolstoy, Dostoyevski, Turgenev and
Bunin. Sometimes I read love-stories, but they began to seem too
exaggerated to me – they look like a fairy-tale for little
girls.
Though I do believe in true love. I prefer classical music by Mozart,
Bach, Chopin, Tschaikovski and Glinka. I also like to listen to a rock
music. But almost all my free time is devoted to kids in my
kindergarten, I love them very much. I’d love to have my own
family,
I’m sure that for a real woman nothing in this world can be
more
important than her husband and children. It’s very nice to have
people
who love you and need you care and tenderness. Looking forward to your
letter, Mila
2007-11-10, 21:18:43
imnotafool@yahoo.com from United States  
omg shes in love and no phone................


Hi my dear sucker! I’m so happy to get your letters again
and
again. I want to let you know that I don’t have a phone here,
because
it’s not so easy and cheap to get one. In fact, there’re only
few
people here who can pay for a phone line to their flat. It may sound
absurd to you but it’s true. I wish I had it and could hear
your
voice, but I hope we’ll be able to talk to each other without
using
any device except our own ears. I love to read your letters all over
again and again. Well, I have them printed in the Internet-Cafe and
then bring home. I’m so happy to have found you. I get to know
you
better and better with every new letters of yours. I begin to realize
that my feelingss were right and you’re the one to make me happy.
I
have never seriously fallen in love in my life. Of course, when a
teenager I used to have some boyfriends, but it wasn’t love,
of
course. I’ve even never kissed anyone in my life. I’ve just never
let
the men too much, because I think that sex is impossible without love.
But my men were just simple males, I coudn’t bear it. But as for
you,
you’ve become my leading star and now I’m ready to embrace
you
tenderly and say you’re that special someone I’ve been looking for
all
my life. I know, it may sound a bit strange, but I think I’ve
fallen
in love at last. And my love is getting stronger every day. I
don’t
think I’ve made the wrong choice – God says we are to be together
and
He would never deceive. Looking forward to your letter, yours Mila
2007-11-11, 06:54:55
Peter from Germany  
I'd really like to know what this photographer - might be a woman - tells the girls so that they can do this innocent and silly face as shown in perfection at the on-bed-pic.
I am not sure it is always the same photographer although many series got nearly identical motives. They have learned from one another.
Do they use the same sentences to generate this stupid expression?
2007-11-11, 15:03:13
OJAS from United States  
I have heard but awaiting proof that sometines photographers offer random girls on the street (may even be visitors) a small cash for posing. If so Alles scheisse.
2007-11-11, 15:41:38
Peter from Germany  
That is possible but what do they say to the girls? I wanted to do a series just for fun but I do not know what my daughter should imagine to get that innocent lovely smile.
2007-11-11, 17:21:14
OJAS from United States  
I see regularly students in cafeteria amidst their animated cell phone conversations aiming their cell cameras to capture smiling girls for their collection. They are NOT scammers. Frequently stranger girls get turned on and smile even wider. They are NOT accomplices. Not a cent changes hands!!
You are on page 1 of 2, other pages: [1] 2

 

 

Are you being scammed and this is your first visit here?
Read the welcome page/ primer for newbies.
Thanks to Eddie for writing it up.

Please also read Miss Marple's article about recognizing male dating scammers.

NEW: Optional: Register   Login
Email address (not necessary):

Rate as
Hide my email when showing my comment.
Please notify me once a day about new comments on this topic.
Please provide a valid email address if you select this option, or post under a registered account.
 

Show city and country
Show country only
Hide my location
You can mark text as 'quoted' by putting [quote] .. [/quote] around it.
Please type in the code:

Please do not post inappropriate pictures. Inappropriate pictures include pictures of minors and nudity.
The owner of this web site reserves the right to delete such material.

photo Add a picture:
Picture Search

You have received photos and wonder if these photos has been posted here before? Because you suspect this could be a dating scammer, but you do not want to post this picture? Try the Picture Search