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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.
Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).
Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/ and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!
More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!
So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .
'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.
girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.
girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.
scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.
photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!
most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.
GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)
writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).
falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.
She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.
There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.
Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.
One day a good looking man talked to me on hangouts.I was very surprised. His English was very broken and hÃ¨ didn t say much. He asked a lot of questions. This went on for 8 weeks.I likes the guy so I asked him to send me another pic. He did send me 2. I was shocked when I noticed that one of the 2 was on the Internet but under another name. Anyway the man started asking me for money for his so called son who is sick and needs an operation.I confronted him with the truth about him and he was so upset and gave me a call. Yep .it was the same man on both the pics. There was a webcam on board. He disconnected and After that he destroyed the account on google + which had the name MARRIES BARRY. I am still in shock. It was the first time I talked to a scammer and hÃ¨ is still on the Internet. .on hangouts. By the name Denis charelli. The man has many accounts and many names. This image was also posted here: Primer for first time visitors (Dating Scams)
Miss Marple from United States
Reported here before please go into the link below and update the thread with your information on this scammer. Scammers are using pre recorded session stolen from people online and that do not mean you have been talking with the man on the photos at all most probably with an scammer from Nigeria. I am sorry that you are scammed.
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Also lindsallie on yahoo messenger. Katrina Allie on Hangoutts
she had me send her $500.00 to come and visit. Kept it saying her kid was sick. Still tried to get more. You can email her and she won't know. She then asked for money for surgery, then she'll come to Ohio. I have her pictures, she forgot she gave me her ID. She's from Ghana.
This is happening know: Sophia One Needs money for VISA Her mothers email address email@example.com another is: firstname.lastname@example.org
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anonymous from United States
anonymous from Romania
Hello I am the friend and caregiver of Paulina. ok I try to explain in a few words. Paulina is not fake and no joke. she was formerly Top Model Corin Riggs. their pictures were stolen and abused for dating scammer. Paulina now 38 years old and live in Accra. there she established an orphanage where she lives with the children. Paulina is half African. She was kidnapped a few years ago, abused and raped for months. She now lives in a wheelchair and walk only on crutches and her beauty is no longer the time left. she is a broken woman and lives for their African orphans. For days she cries at night, I can hear it. I have all the messages they wrote read. we do not know what happened, maybe she's in love with you or wants to return to her old life. Both she can no longer do. All pictures which they are sending them old pictures of a life other life. I'm sorry, it notify them in this form. Paulina is now sleeping and if they have heart for Paulina, please no more contact with Paulina, please. Delete pictures, chat and contact with Paulina. it is the best for you and Paulina. thank you from Bonita - Project Hope for Children.
This message I got on 'line apk'
email@example.com from Germany
Bax from United States
Stolen downloads used by anonymous online criminals to trick you.
Never become emotionally entangled with online photos asking for money.
Never challenge scammers, it only helps them on the next try.
Gestohlene Downloads von anonymen Online-Kriminellen verwendet, um Sie zu betrÃ¼gen.
Funktion DelphiFAQ Suche; blauen Balken oben.
Die Suche nach 'Karen Dreams ': 115 EintrÃ¤ge gefunden
Nie emotional mit Online-Fotos bitten um Geld verschlungen.
Nie Herausforderung BetrÃ¼ger, es hilft ihnen nur auf den nÃ¤chsten Versuch.
anonymous from United States
i wasnt scammed, but i,m playing her game. she wants me to 2000 for gold she has over in ghana, told her i would send money to her to mail it. told she could mail it and when she arrived we would go pick it up together.. she 800 more for plane ticket, i found out if you right click on picture, then hit goggle search it will take you right where the picture came from.... she useing the pictures of sunny leone, yes she is a porn star from inda, boy is beautiful!!! she even sent me pictures of her in the shower, along with her with the gold... her name is Kate Lioris.. ill try get photos on here, no skin though... im going to play as long as i can until i bust them.... ive until Christmas thats when we are suppose to meet.. she doesnt have a clue that i know about them.... hoo rah
anonymous from United States
more pictures of KATE
Bax from United States
Anon Friend U.S.A.,
I will be with you here on this one, OK.
Keep us updated and be alert Not To Release Any of your REAL, personal or online info.
They should NOT have Nor Be Given, your true e-mail address!
Many around the world are known to bait with Sunny Leone's Image and
some use rendering software to dig into your contact lists to enter your online profiles.
They can reek-havoc on you if they do.
To 'Up' the antie, act like you are New to Internet and learning to use a computer.
They always target new people who they think are fools to believe them completely.
The bait-pics of Sunny Leone that they use are all old ones.
It's easy to see her current profile and back ground online by name search.
Try to upload any new bait-pics that they may give you.
Report their names and locations that they give you, here.
Here is a link to DelphiFAQ reported scammers using her image.