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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.

Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/


They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!

If, by any chance, you don't believe any of this, please read: http://www.cheboksaryrussia.net/russian-scams/russian-scammers.html

So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

  • 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!

  • doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.

  • girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.

  • girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.

  • scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.

  • photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!

  • most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiance did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.

  • GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.

  • very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)

  • writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafs are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).

  • falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

  • uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
    THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.

    MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:

  • she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
    Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.

    She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.

NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
UK: http://www.ukvac-ru.com/document.aspx
USA: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consular.php?record_id=reqvdocs

There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.

Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.




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2013-01-06, 11:10:10
anonymous from United States  
I am writing one more time as this may help others. It started out with just one from Ghana which was maybe easy to believe but not really. But after going to the Badoo dating site, I had up to about 15 different woman I had talked to from Ghana who all said they loved me and in the end wanted money or things. I got to where I wanted to see just how many and how far would it go. But it doesn't stop with Ghana and Africa. 3 of these claimed to be living in, Florida, California, and New York, and yet had the same pictures as some of the different scammers but just different names and places. So as u are online beware that the location they say will not always be Ghana. In the end I deleted them all and my email was even hacked, and the location was from Africa. So I have even deleted my email and started all over with that. When I did call the US Embassy in Ghana, the person who answered said they get calls daily about this and as has been said, there are no white woman or men in Ghana online and if American waman were in Trouble, they would get the help they need right there. So that is all I have to say. Here is a picture of who says she is from Florida and her name is Becky Perry. However I have also seen these pics in two other profiles and whatelse can I say. Oh and she emailed me pictures of artwork that she says is what she does. and I will include one of those next.


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2013-01-06, 11:14:46
anonymous from United States  
Artwork that Becky Perry picture shared with me and says she did it and does a lot like that. Does anybody recognize what it really is and who did it? I am sure she didn't do it.


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2013-01-06, 11:44:38
anonymous from United States  
Artwork that Becky Perry picture shared with me and says she did it and does a lot like that. Does anybody recognize what it really is and who did it? I am sure she didn't do it.
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Galya Guzilyak



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2013-01-07, 00:33:36
anonymous from United States  
2013-01-06, 11:14:46 anonymous from United States - Artwork that Becky Perry picture shared with me and says she did it and does a lot like that. Does anybody recognize what it really is and who did it? >>>

Oh yeah... she lies, a big lie, a whopper lie ! The real professional artist is 'Leonid Afremov' read about him below and on Wikipedia >>>

Leonid Afremov is a Russian–Israeli modern impressionistic artist who works mainly with a palette knife and oils. He developed his own unique technique and style which is unmistakable. Wikipedia
Born: July 12, 1955 (age 57), Vitebsk
Artwork: Venice Bridge, Paris Flight, Rain Of Love, Night In Venice, Rainy encounter, More


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2013-01-07, 00:51:57   (updated: 2013-01-07, 00:54:33)
anonymous from United States  
Big time scam she's posted as 'Galya Guzilyak' on this delphifaq site and you can find her on UAdreams... see below !

Dating scammer Galya Guzilyak
www.delphifaq.com/faq/russian_marriage_scams/f8554.shtmlDating scammer Galya Guzilyak. comments This article has not been rated yet. After reading, feel free to leave comments and rate it. Name: Galya Guzilyak ...

UAdreams are scammers
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4 фев 2012 – Scammer Lena Smian aka Lenusik from UAdreams · My other blog ... -They put there women profiles on many other dating sites to steal there clients and lure men to there's. ..... become Galya Guzilyak (has a boyfriend) ...
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Dating scammer Galya Guzilyak



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2013-01-07, 16:10:36
Miss Marple from United States  
RE:2013-01-06, 11:10:10
anonymous from United States

Yes as a thumb rule white girl profile +West-Africa = SCAM

Scams with photos on Nicole Graves:
http://www.delphifa..1_208.htm
http://www.romances..p?t=13883
http://www.scamsurv..f=11&t=138


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2013-01-09, 02:09:18
anonymous from United States  
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hey guys she is my first scammer and she is good , i mean she was my very first now i mess with all the scammers but this one i need help with she is fucking good , i can not find her anywhere and i am into her for over 2000 dollare already , has any one seen her before / she goes by JOCELYN WALKER and here are a couple of pics help me guys please dan o.
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Primer for first time visitors (Dating Scams)
Another dating / chat scam - USA/ Nigeria connection
Another dating / chat scam - USA/ Nigeria connection



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2013-01-09, 02:09:19
anonymous from United States  
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hey guys she is my first scammer and she is good , i mean she was my very first now i mess with all the scammers but this one i need help with she is fucking good , i can not find her anywhere and i am into her for over 2000 dollare already , has any one seen her before / she goes by JOCELYN WALKER and here are a couple of pics help me guys please dan o.
This image was also posted here:
Primer for first time visitors (Dating Scams)
Another dating / chat scam - USA/ Nigeria connection
Another dating / chat scam - USA/ Nigeria connection



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2013-01-09, 02:14:07
danrodonnell@yahoo from United States  
here is another pic of JOCELYN WALKER help me guys please


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2013-01-09, 07:29:04   (updated: 2013-01-09, 07:29:51)
Malek  
Pics. belong to Carrie Joslin nudy model.

Not real face behind her photo's, The gang consists of guy's who pretend like her,
they make daily victims. They come mainly from West-africa there are
the biggest scammers.

Regards

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Dating scammer kendra shane



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2013-01-09, 07:31:07
Malek  
2013-01-09, 07:32:05
anonymous from United States  
2013-01-09, 02:14:07 danrodonnell@yahoo from United - here is another pic of JOCELYN WALKER help me guys please >>>

Ooops, you've found a really hot little chick but her name ain't Jocelyn ... the pic belongs to porn girl 'Carrie Joslin' watch her finger her pussy on the site below and enjoy the action... !

Sexy brunette Carrie Joslin strips off her black business suit and ...
www.carrie-j.com/gallery/Carrie_Joslin_Nude_Non.../index.htmSexy brunette Carrie Joslin strips off business suit and spreads and fingers her pussy and she's fucking hot! You'll cum just looking at her perfect tits and pussy.


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2013-01-09, 10:22:28
brent temple from United States  
Anybody know if this is a scamRead Message

hiFrom: Katy Jones <katyjones729@yahoo.co.uk>To:beatsnik48@aol.comSent: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 19:26:11 +0100 (BST)Download All | kate.jpg (24KB); kate2.jpg (9KB); kate4.jpg (11KB); kate5.jpg (10KB); kate6.jpg (9KB); kate333333.jpg (60KB) Hello ,
Good Day...thanks so much for your response and i if you can send me some of your picture i will be very happy,i see you have so much interest in meeting a nice woman.....Well i have to tell you i am a honest woman and i want a honest man too to share life with and be together forever,age doesn't matters to me okay just like to get to know more about you and see if we are meant to be or not,And am letting you know am new on this site i just came up few days a friend linked me to it and i am flirting men on there just see if there's one who have the key to my heart and just here you are now you wrote to me am so happy and right now am thinking the future have a nice package for us that will put a smile on our face..I have met some men here in LONDON But they where not what i really dream about they all wanted sex and nothing serious they wanted dear..And am on here giving the long distance thing a try though i haven't try it before but am hoping it will work for me and how long have you been on the site?I am a kind and fun-loving person who wishes to meet someone with those same qualities. I would like someone who is passionate about life and wants to take it to it's fullest, someone who cares about other people, someone who enjoys spending time with and showing affection to their partner, someone who likes to pamper and be pampered, and someone who likes to laugh. I know these are pretty big shoes to fill, but I bet there is someone out there who can. I am a average size woman, but I am 5 ft 7 Caucasian / White in and carry it pretty well. I try to wear clothing that is flattering and keep myself neat and clean...What you do for work ?And your nationality?..Am from California,Los Angeles right now in the UK,London Am here doing my masters degree and in telecommunication and hard ware processing in engineering...Am 25 years old now and my birth day date is 6th of december every year...I really don't want games i believe honesty is really important in a relationship and i just hope this work out for me and you successfully would be a testimony,Do you have any kids? and where they live if you do?Wish i do have a phone i did like to call you but it has been disconnected for now bcos i don't have job for now and i don't want lots bills on me i wait till i get done with school and come back home get a better Job and reconnected i do hope you do understand me so much dear hope you have a nice time at work today?How is the weather there?Am so glad we had somethings in common that's a good thing just hope someday we can share it together,Hope you write me soon with so much love...
Best Regards,
kate




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2013-01-09, 10:53:16
anonymous from Germany  
kate mensah


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2013-01-09, 11:00:29   (updated: 2013-01-09, 11:22:26)
anonymous from Germany  
Christelle Brou
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=118883374943549&set=a.118431071655446.25072.100004656609598&type=1
ein neuer scammer


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