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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.

Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/


They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!

If, by any chance, you don't believe any of this, please read: http://www.cheboksaryrussia.net/russian-scams/russian-scammers.html

So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

  • 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!

  • doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.

  • girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.

  • girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.

  • scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.

  • photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!

  • most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiance did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.

  • GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.

  • very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)

  • writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafs are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).

  • falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

  • uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
    THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.

    MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:

  • she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
    Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.

    She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.

NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
UK: http://www.ukvac-ru.com/document.aspx
USA: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consular.php?record_id=reqvdocs

There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.

Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.




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2008-12-19, 18:52:26
anonymous from United States  
aNYONE HEARD OF THIS ONE: Love_life 4real@yahoo.com
2008-12-19, 18:57:04
anonymous from United States  
aNYONE HEARD OF THIS ONE: Love_life 4real@yahoo.com
2008-12-20, 17:48:32
Steve_dux from Australia  
@ 2008-12-19, 18:57:04 anonymous from United States

That email address is a dead give away, they often use addies like that one. I smell a rat!!!

Just keep....
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2008-12-23, 11:41:58
anonymous from Kenya  
CHECK HER OUT SHE IS A SCAM CALLED DORRIS KONEH
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2008-12-24, 10:14:55
anonymous from Italy  
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Scam attempt by scammer “Aleksandra Kayn” (maybe the name is a fake)
Hi my love XXXXXX! How are you? Like the time, my love! So you missing me and I look forward to our meeting with you, my charm! I have some 'money, but I do not have enough room for 300 Euros and To register my visa fast!I could not find empty seats at the hotel, and then and It was necessary to rent an apartment for me usually in an apartment house! I rented room, my love! And since I will be ready, I can tell you, my love! I think constantly of our meeting with you, my pretty!
Often we think of our meeting with you? Your letters help me in a bear this great city, my love!
Your love for me, give me strength, my charm! It seems to me that she had often!
I love you! Aleksandra you!
A television recently I saw the advertisement for Western Union, and international Translation system money, I think you and you, if in May We must take advantage, you see so easy! Immediately I go into the Western Union, which is located near the cybercafe's He discovered that all that is necessary for us to surrender. And you can send money through Western Union, And receive money for me, and need to know
1) Your name and a surname.
2) What state and city money is sent.
3) A code of a transfer of funds from ten digits.
And you need to know the name of mine. МY name Aleksandra
And also need to know my last name.
My last name Kayn.
I can receive money from Moscow, in any branch of Western Union
I want to be with you, my love.
I finished my letter to you with ideas on you.
Aleksandra you!
mailto:koshkakartoshka@rambler.ru



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2008-12-24, 10:20:40
anonymous from Italy  
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Scammer “Aleksandra Kayn” (maybe the name is a fake)


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2008-12-24, 14:59:09
anonymous from Venezuela  
MOST OF THIS SCAM ARE MEN THEY USE THIS PHOTOS FROM DATING PAGES
2008-12-27, 01:01:32
anonymous from Australia  
I met a girl on Lavalife IM called Queenly1 got me straight onto Yahoo IM. Said she was from Cape Verde age 31. Profile on site read from Danaabi Western Cape age 33. Said she just finished nursing studies, I talked about music and movies I liked that I would send her some and she suggested getting her an Ipod which I bought the next day prior to Christmas. She told me the next day she would travel to Accra Ghana to live with her sick Dad and would be staying there from then on. Gave me a Accra P.O. box code 0023 to send the Ipod. Same story, instant love and was going to delete her profile on Lavalife,but the next day said it would'nt come off. We swapped photo's and which she gave me two great ones and 3 pixilated ones. Ive seen about 4 photos that look great but I do'nt know if its really her. She wants to move over here and will marry me. I said I would buy her a mobile phone which she would love to have. I've asker to phone me reverse charge but has'nt done it yet and I've asked for her phone number which I have'nt got yet. Cant find her name anywhere so she or he is either real a scammner, I do'nt know. She also seems a bit illiterate and uses the emocions and the buzz word on messenger. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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2008-12-27, 01:03:33
anonymous from Australia  
I met a girl on Lavalife IM called Queenly1 got me straight onto Yahoo IM. Said she was from Cape Verde age 31. Profile on site read from Danaabi Western Cape age 33. Said she just finished nursing studies, I talked about music and movies I liked that I would send her some and she suggested getting her an Ipod which I bought the next day prior to Christmas. She told me the next day she would travel to Accra Ghana to live with her sick Dad and would be staying there from then on. Gave me a Accra P.O. box code 0023 to send the Ipod. Same story, instant love and was going to delete her profile on Lavalife,but the next day said it would'nt come off. We swapped photo's and which she gave me two great ones and 3 pixilated ones. Ive seen about 4 photos that look great but I do'nt know if its really her. She wants to move over here and will marry me. I said I would buy her a mobile phone which she would love to have. I've asker to phone me reverse charge but has'nt done it yet and I've asked for her phone number which I have'nt got yet. Cant find her name anywhere so she or he is either real a scammner, I do'nt know. She also seems a bit illiterate and uses the emocions and the buzz word on messenger. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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2008-12-27, 05:42:49
anonymous from United States  
Thanks for this site and its useful info about scams. I was recently conntected by this hot, beautiful girl. I thought I had met my dream girl. She was really nice what made me research her was that she fell in love so fast also her email and her pics don't go togather. she said she was a poor girl and then her pics were really model type. see for your self. so I reserched her and she turns out to be a scamer. here are her pics.
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Dating scammer Elizaveta



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2008-12-27, 05:48:20
anonymous from United States  
Her name is Elizaveta. She is a DATING SCAMER. here is her pic.
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Dating scammer Elizaveta



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2008-12-27, 06:01:38
anonymous from United States  
This is about ZINNAH EMMANUEL . I have a new address for you, P.O. box 324, or 37 Militery Hospital rd. 4th st. Accra, Ghana 0233 . Here is a new phone number, 011 23324416 8494 . She [or he] likes the word AWESOME , as a code word .. My husband fell for this garbage !! How is it that women can see the truth but men have a had time seeing?? I think it's because they think with the wrong head!!!!!!!
2008-12-28, 20:58:22
anonymous from United States  
yes im from beaver falls usa here is another picture of my scammer olga she is fine but shes nothin but a lyer


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2008-12-29, 08:06:43
anonymous from Australia  
This young lady is getting into my head, her name is Tatyana Nochka, she wrote to me from my details on a date site. I have a few letters, does anyone have any information about her?
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2008-12-29, 11:28:08
anonymous from Dominican Republic  
Los Dominicanos Honestos No Caen En Trampa, Dios Está Con Ellos.

Quise tener amigos en el mundo amigos para compartir con ellos experiencias música, videos e inquietudes, les advertí, que no quería ningún tipo de relación amorosa con mujeres. Recibí el coreo electrónico de mas abajo, donde me decía una chica de sus problemas, que era refugiada y una serie de cosas mas y que quería ser mi amante (Lea el correo de mas abajo). Lo primero es que la chica que esta en la foto no tiene estilo de refugiada y de que esta pasando trabajo. Decidí investigar en Internet con su correo electrónico y encontré que es una banda criminal, que a estafados a muchas personas en Nigeria, que han secuestrados y matados personas. Si yo había sido un palomo de otro país que no me había pasado. Pasa este correo electrónicos a tu amigos y familiares por que uno/unas de ellos/ellas puede estar en peligro, para mas información introduce el correo electrónico en google (christianagirl2007@yahoo.de) y te darás cuenta que no miento.


Mira la trampa, la chica es muy linda, ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡CUIDADO paraguayo¡¡¡¡

WILL LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU.....I WILL LIKE TO

SABER MAS ACERCA DE USTED‏
De:     Christiana Udeh (christianagirl2007@yahoo.de)

Enviado:     viernes, 26 de diciembre de 2008 04:36:28 a.m.
Para:     Nelson Nina (el_super.7@hotmail.com)
My Dearest
I am more than happy in your reply to my mail.How was your day?.i hope you had a wonder full sweet day,i really thanks God for his infinite Mercy upon me in this my wilderness experience.
Mine was hot over here in Dakar Senegal.My name is Christiana Useh single 24 years and never married,
i am from IVORY COAST in West Africa and presently i am residing in the refugee camp here in Dakar Senegal as a result of the civil war that was fought in my country. My late father Dr Solomon Useh was the chairman managing director USEH INDUSTRIAL COMPANY LTD,
in Monroviaand he is also the personal adviser to the former head of state before the rebels attacked our house one early morning and killed my father. Due to the sudden death of my father , my mother had a blood pressure with resulted to her death after four month my beloved father left me.
It was only me that is alive now and i managed to make our way to near by country Senegal where i am living now as a refugee.
Due to the maltreatment am receiving from my step mother.I would like to know more about you. Your likes and what you dislikes, your hobbies and what you are doing presently. I will tell you more about in my next mail. Attached here is my picture . Hoping to hear from you soonest,
Yours Forever.
Christiana
Mi Querido
Estoy más que feliz en su respuesta a mi mail.How fue tu día?. Espero que hayan tenido una maravilla dulce pleno día, realmente gracias a Dios por su infinita misericordia que me presente en mi campamento.
Mina se caliente más de aquí en Dakar Senegal.My nombre es Christiana Useh solo 24 años y nunca se casó,
Soy de Costa de Marfil en el África occidental y en la actualidad soy residente en el campamento de refugiados aquí en Dakar Senegal a consecuencia de la guerra civil que se libró en mi país. Mi difunto padre fue el Dr. Salomón Useh el presidente director general USEH INDUSTRIAL COMPANY LTD,
en Monroviaand es también el personal asesor del ex jefe de Estado antes de los rebeldes atacaron nuestra casa una mañana temprano y mataron a mi padre. Debido a la repentina muerte de mi padre, mi madre tenía la presión arterial con un resultado a su muerte cuatro meses después de mi querido padre me dejó.
Es sólo que me está vivo ahora y me las arreglé para hacer nuestro camino hacia el país por cerca de Senegal, donde estoy viviendo ahora como un refugiado.
Debido a los malos tratos estoy recibiendo de mi paso mother.I gustaría saber más acerca de usted. Su gusta y lo que no le gusta, sus aficiones y lo que está haciendo actualmente. Le diré más sobre en mi próximo mail. Se adjunta aquí está mi imagen. Esperando saber de usted lo antes posible,
Tuya para siempre.
Christiana










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