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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.

Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief


The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from and ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.

They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!

If, by any chance, you don't believe any of this, please read:

So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

  • 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!

  • doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.

  • girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.

  • girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.

  • scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.

  • photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!

  • most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiance did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.

  • GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.

  • very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)

  • writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafs are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use, or hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).

  • falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

  • uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
    THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.

    MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:

  • she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
    Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.

    She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted. should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.

There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.

Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.

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2009-01-30, 10:00:29
Fred from Germany  
and another one
Sharon Taylor

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Gesendet:     Freitag, 30. Januar 2009 12:35:53
Dear Respectful One,

Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business
relationship with you. i got your contact from a search for
a trustworthy person who can help me safe guide this money
knowing fully well that my life and future solely depends on
this money.
I prayed over it and selected your name among other names
due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations
given to me as a reputable and trustworthy person I can do
business with and by their recommendations I must not
hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere
I am Sharon Taylor, the only daughter of late Mr. Paytrick
Taylor my father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant based in
Abidjan ,
The economic capital of Ivory Coast before he was poisoned
to death by his business associates on one of their outing
to discuss on a business. While my mother died on the 21st
October 1990 my father took me so special because i am
Before the death of my father on 7th November 2003in a
private hospital here in Abidjan . he secretly called me on
his bedside and told me that he has a sum of us$16.000
(Sixteen Million united states dollars) left in a suspense
account in a local bank here in Abidjan, that he used my
name as his only daughter for the next of kin in deposit of
the fund.
He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth
that he was poisoned by his business associates. That I
should seek for a foreign partner in a country of my choice
where I will transfer this money and use it for investment
purpose, (such as real estate management).
I am honourably seeking your assistance in the following
1)to provide a bank account where this money would be
transferred to,
2)to serve as the guardian of this fund since I am 22 years
3) to make arrangement for me to come over to your country
after the money has been transferred.
Moreover, I am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as
compensation for your effort/input after the successful
transfer of this fund to your nominated account overseas.
Furthermore, you can indicate your option towards assisting
me signify interest to assist me.
I am waiting to hear from you (mail). Please it is very
important you get back to me with this email address id( )
Thanks and god bless.

Yours sincerely
Ms. Sharon Taylor
2009-01-30, 10:22:17
anonymous from United States  
I also was sent stoken photos of melissa sumitra Roy. Might be from thesammer(s) The person(s) claims to be Eunice Nomotey. She lives in Accra, Ghana on 48 Mahogany Street She/He gave a phone number 233 240 960009. He?her emaik
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Dating scammer Jamila Alhassan
Dating scammer Jamila P

2009-01-30, 10:22:56
anonymous from United States  

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Dating scammer Jamila Alhassan

2009-01-30, 10:23:39
anonymous from United States  
2009-01-30, 10:24:36
anonymous from United States  

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Dating scammer Serlorm Amewode

2009-01-30, 10:25:40
anonymous from United States  

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Dating scammer Jamila Alhassan

2009-01-30, 10:27:13
anonymous from United States  
2009-01-30, 10:28:49
anonymous from United States  
2009-01-30, 10:33:39
anonymous from United States  
tHIS MELISSA SUMIRITRA ROY. JUST TO select videos and on searc type in Mellisa Sumitra Roy. Then clik on Melissa roy' Photo Shoot

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Dating scammer Serlorm Amewode
Dating scammer Serlorm Amewode
Dating scammer aishatu labaran

2009-02-01, 00:49:01
[hidden] from Canada  
very informing on a subject that seems seems to pop up like those adds.
2009-02-01, 05:00:38
anonymous from United States  
2009-02-01, 20:20:19   (updated: 2009-02-01, 20:26:36)
anonymous from Sweden  
har kontakt med skriver att hon kommer från Morki spårar jag ip-nummret så hamnar jag forst i ryssland till slut i USA

ip-nr bentonvill USA morgan stanley gropp N,Y er-tele com Yoshkar-olo Moskva

2009-02-01, 23:53:49
anonymous from United States  
i don't know about this shit where this woman named , 'MonaLisa' wants to send me gold from Ghana....... it's too suspect...... she claims that she needs the money for her mother's lung operation....... yes, she's full of shit...... man, i got bills and debt up my ass..... hell, i ain't asking her for shit 'cept friendship, but she thinks she loves me and hardly knows me..... i told her this..... i played her game, and it slapped her back in the face...... good for her fucking me ass...... i even went back and apologized for talking so direct, and direct i were.......asking questions........ investigating ....... i saw a website today of a many people.... male and female alike, that have suffered losses at the hands of these evil tyrants...... after seeing those posts i emailed her another direct letter....... no one in their right mind will send gold to a total stranger..... beware of the scams....... love ain't worth the hurt....... love was never in my equation with her....... she thought she had me or think that i am desperate for companionship........NOT THAT i noticed a lot of misspellings that inclined me to believe that she is a bit illiterate......... nothing wrong with being illiterate......if that's what a person chooses........ i tend to notice little ass shit like what i was picking up on her...... she got pissed at me for not owning up to sending prior money.... totally not in relation to her ailing mother...... i questioned her on this ....... she was good at evading me......... which made me even more suspect of her........ if anyone has ever talked with her, please let me know....... i am a black male........ i sympathize with the state of the economy there......... but shit, there's a recession everywhere, but i ain't out to scam did hurt, for i were falling for her from the pic i saw of her........ after our first falling out, she took her pic off the web....... i figure it was because she knew i busted her..... watch out for this whomever they are....... i wouldn't be surprised if it's a man in some internet cafe in ghana........hopefully i have helped someone who has or is presently going thru a similar circumstance..........bye for now

2009-02-01, 23:58:02
anonymous from United States  
this is my pic on the site........ i am the one writing out this craziness i recently went thru with this woman or man or whatever they were....4867

2009-02-02, 03:09:27
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Some more good news just in!!!


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