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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.

Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/


They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!

If, by any chance, you don't believe any of this, please read: http://www.cheboksaryrussia.net/russian-scams/russian-scammers.html

So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

  • 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!

  • doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.

  • girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.

  • girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.

  • scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.

  • photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!

  • most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiance did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.

  • GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.

  • very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)

  • writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafs are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).

  • falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

  • uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
    THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.

    MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:

  • she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
    Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.

    She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.

NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
UK: http://www.ukvac-ru.com/document.aspx
USA: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consular.php?record_id=reqvdocs

There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.

Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.




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2009-07-02, 03:55:45   (updated: 2009-07-02, 03:56:11)
anonymous from Japan  
2009-07-02, 11:33:21
anonymous from Spain  
someone knows these girls, that say that they want me with insanity, to have if someone knows them
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2009-07-02, 11:34:04
anonymous from Spain  
someone knows these girls, that say that they want me with insanity, to have if someone knows them
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Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer kseniya



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2009-07-02, 11:34:43
anonymous from Spain  
someone knows these girls, that say that they want me with insanity, to have if someone knows them
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer kseniya



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2009-07-02, 11:35:57
anonymous from Spain  
someone knows these girls, that say that they want me with insanity, to have if someone knows them
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer kseniya



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2009-07-02, 11:36:46
anonymous from Spain  
someone knows these girls, that say that they want me with insanity, to have if someone knows them
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer kseniya
Dating scammer valeria



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2009-07-02, 12:15:12
wanwan from Japan  
@spain

Thank you for posting many pictures.
But it is not enough to search.
please put all info,
email address,
phone number
name,
mail header info

Thank you,
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2009-07-02, 15:20:27
anonymous from Bergen, Norway  
thank you for the informasion!!and it`s thruu!!ben there!!
2009-07-03, 10:07:59
anonymous from Denmark  

Now she is in the game again..Watch out for her

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2009-07-03, 10:08:43
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2009-07-03, 11:55:47
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-07-03, 10:07:59
anonymous from Denmark






Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
196.207.192.242 SENEGAL DAKAR DAKAR 14.7367
-17.6339 - +00:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL POOL ADSL BAS1 ET BAS -

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
221 - (SGXX0001) DAKAR





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
67.195.9.111 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SUNNYVALE 37.3779
-122.027 94089 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL YAHOO! INC YAHOO.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 408/650 (USCA1116) SUNNYVALE





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
67.195.9.83 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SUNNYVALE 37.3779
-122.027 94089 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL YAHOO! INC YAHOO.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 408/650 (USCA1116) SUNNYVALE





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
216.252.122.218 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SUNNYVALE 37.3779
-122.027 94089 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL YAHOO! INC YAHOO.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 408/650 (USCA1116) SUNNYVALE





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
98.136.44.188 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SUNNYVALE 37.3779
-122.027 94089 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL YAHOO! INC YAHOO.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 408/650 (USCA1116) SUNNYVALE





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
98.136.44.188 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SUNNYVALE 37.3779
-122.027 94089 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL YAHOO! INC YAHOO.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 408/650 (USCA1116) SUNNYVALE



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IP Information - 196.207.192.242 IP address: 196.207.192.242
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per ns1.afrinic.net.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 8346
ASN Name: UNSPECIFIED (SONATEL-AS Autonomous System)
IP range connectivity: 31
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): SN [Senegal]
Country Currency: Unknown
Country IP Range: 196.207.192.0 to 196.207.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): -- []
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: BOGUS
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 196.207.192.2* ******************************************************************
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2009-07-03, 16:19:02
anonymous from United States  
I've been talking to a women who is supposedly in Russia. She seems genuine bit I'm being cautious. I traced the Ip address and it came back from Sunnyvale, CA I'm not really computer savy but what does this?


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2009-07-03, 17:24:28
OJAS from United States  
http://www.delphifa..=0#100238
Russians who have traveled abroad, and speak reasonable English, may use foreign mail domains. But writing scamlish, and using foreign mail domains means you have to open your score card. (It could be Strike 1). Instead of corresponding with you a few times within the dating site, she moved you immediately to a personal mail, (Strike 2). Instead of a real girl screen name, her user ID is something like LonelyModel4U (Strike 3). You may still want to give her as much benefit of doubt as is humanly possible. If her profile says different country from Russia (her e-mail) (Strike 4)
http://russianwomen..hp?pid=34
http://russianwivesbook.com
http://russianwife...scams.html
2009-07-03, 19:47:06   (updated: 2009-07-03, 19:50:14)
DOC from United States  
anonymous from United States 2009-07-03, 16:19:02
I do not know how you traced her IP but for someone new to IP tracing
I recommend copy/paste the whole email header in here -> http://www.ip2locat..racer.aspx
or if you want post her email header (Edit out your personal info and email
address) We can trace it for you, Sunnyvale,CA is the local of the Yahoo server.
2009-07-03, 20:06:42
anonymous from Ethiopia  
{I got scammed too but when the man she/he put as a lowyer when he asks for money to get me the effidavit of court or something i started digging who realy hte man is but thanks too google.com i found all the information about the scammers.Its a great job google.com continue doing this please alot of peaope are hearting but now about me i'm playing with her/him to see the end of all this.
take care every body
Daniel }
take off this scammer girl her name is Edna ALUZo with the same story like all others


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