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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.

Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/


They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!

If, by any chance, you don't believe any of this, please read: http://www.cheboksaryrussia.net/russian-scams/russian-scammers.html

So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

  • 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!

  • doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.

  • girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.

  • girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.

  • scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.

  • photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!

  • most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiance did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.

  • GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.

  • very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)

  • writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafs are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).

  • falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

  • uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
    THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.

    MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:

  • she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
    Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.

    She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.

NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
UK: http://www.ukvac-ru.com/document.aspx
USA: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consular.php?record_id=reqvdocs

There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.

Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.




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2009-07-18, 00:01:45   (updated: 2009-07-18, 00:57:15)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Beste NN,

Je hebt het heel goed gezien. Achter de naam Yanusha verbergt zich een scammer.

http://forum.fok.nl..c/1300896

http://www.security..usha.html

Het bedrag van 310 Euro is niet eens genoeg, om het vliegticket (retour) te betalen. http://shopping.kel..rdam.html

Hier zijn de sites van de Nederlandse Ambassade in Moskou en in Kiev. Hier kun je rustig nalezen hoe de procedure voor het verkrijgen van een visum werkt.

http://www.netherla..bassy.ru/

http://www.netherla..y.com.ua/

Uit persoonlijke ervaring kan ik je verzekeren, dat een visum niet zondermeer wordt verstrekt aan een alleenstaande/alleenreizende jongedame. Onze Ambassade wil de dame in kwestie eerst eens even spreken.

Het is maar goed, dat je niet hebt betaald! Nooit doen! Eerst zelf een bezoek brengen. Als je absoluut zeker bent, kun je nog altijd een financiele bijdrgae leveren.

Voor het overige weet ik bijna zeker dat ik de foto al eens eerder heb gezien. Onderaan deze bladzijde vind je de Picture Search-functie. Probeer je overige fotomateriaal hier eens uit. Mogelijk vind je ze terug op deze site.

Groet,

Dirk
2009-07-18, 08:02:48
anonymous from United States  
I see a lot of Raven Rilley (Porn Starr with a load of different names...Beware on any in Blue Bikini she has a host of names and I am sure many people are using Raven Rilleys pictures.

More Later
Bobby from Ireland
2009-07-21, 09:54:44
wanwan from Japan  
@New comer

http://www.antiscamblog.com/
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Anna Kulalaeva



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2009-07-27, 09:22:23
anonymous from United States  
rating
I have the exact same pictures. letters are the same slightly altered. the passport has a different name. NADEZHDA PETSHIK


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2009-07-27, 18:04:37
sulley4@clearwire.net from United States  
'Hello My Lovely Man and Sun'

end with
' Yours and only your loving and gentle Irina'

I want to know as I think she is scamming me>


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2009-07-27, 19:37:10   (updated: 2009-07-27, 19:37:49)
anonymous from United States  
Quick history. From MySpace, said her name is Lilian Robert. Went to London, had customs problems, special secret to me. If I married her I, she would get her father's inheritance of over $50 million. But, according to her lawyer, Barrister Richard Leigh, and First Inland Insurance, I would have a fee to pay to receive this inheritance. Have pictures of Lilian Robert, who is supposed t be from Silverton, Oregon. More information, if needed, but would like to hear if anyone else had this problem, especially with the woman in the pictures. Uses lilianrobert14@yahoo.com


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2009-07-27, 19:38:25
anonymous from United States  
more photos of lillian


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2009-07-27, 19:39:24
anonymous from United States  
lillian


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2009-07-27, 19:40:14
anonymous from United States  
still lillian


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2009-07-27, 19:46:15   (updated: 2009-07-27, 19:52:41)
anonymous from United States  
first photo on my space .... she uses 811 .com to send you texts then yahoo messager ... here is last log



lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 7:56:17 AM): Hi Honey
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 7:56:19 AM): You there?
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 4:48:58 PM): hi sweety guess your sleeping
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:24:01 PM): Hello Honey
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:24:39 PM): Just Woke up and decided to see if i can get you Online,why did you left so soon honey
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:34:02 PM):
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:34:07 PM): Hi babe
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:37:37 PM): You there Honey?
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:42:34 PM): Honey ain't talking?
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:46:08 PM): sorry iwas on phone
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:47:15 PM): Ohh Okay babe
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:47:33 PM): what ya doing ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:48:06 PM): Not Feeling too good babe,
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:48:24 PM): I am Just Here missing you honey,Hows Kid?
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:50:40 PM): opps you went bye bye ...
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:50:54 PM): oh your sick ??
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:51:01 PM): kids doing good
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:52:27 PM): Thats Nice,Is he Back from the Hospital?
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:53:57 PM): yep doing good ...well as good as a hot kid in a cast ...lol
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:55:11 PM): I am Happy to hear that Dave,Just dont feel Happy right now due to what Came up and stucked me here in london all this while
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:55:38 PM): yea i was wondering what happened
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:57:25 PM): Well,all The Goods I bougt was seazed by the Customs,and They are wanting me to pay some fees Before My Goods would be Release,and I dont have any money On me,Have used all my Money to buy goods,
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:57:37 PM): I Really dont know what to do righ now Dave
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 10:58:41 PM): U S customs ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 10:59:24 PM): Nope,UK customs.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:01:20 PM): oh thats not good i have friends in U S customs ..do you have a bill of laiding number ?? i could look it up and see why they seazed it ..
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:03:24 PM): They gave me a Reason why they seazed it,They said I should pay a fees,I was suppose to pay off the fees But i have used all the Money On me to Buy Goods,and I tried explaning to them but they wouldnt listen babe
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:06:33 PM): what was the reason ?? how much was fees ?? what kind of fees ..maybe we can get it waved .. i do have some friends i can call ..
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:09:59 PM): Honey They Never Gave me a reason,They Just Put a Hold On it That they Cant let them On Cargo,Untill I pay The Fees,
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:11:37 PM): no reason ?? thats not right ...who is your contact person ?? i'll call them
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:12:35 PM): I Just Need a Loan right now and I will make sure I raise The Money as soon as i sell part of My Goods.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:13:55 PM): Thought I told you before that Its My Bussines I dont work for anybody....I wish My Parents were still alive Things would be very easy for me,I really dont know what i can do to help my self home right now
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:14:38 PM): why pay it if they have no reason ?? i am looking up uk customs now to see who to talk to ..brb
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:16:13 PM): Okay babe.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:17:41 PM): American Citizen Services U.S. Embassy 55/56 Upper Brook Street LONDON, W1A 2LQ
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:18:02 PM): they can help you
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:19:21 PM): Okay babe.Just That I will have a little Problem due to the distance Going to that address to find help babe.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:20:15 PM): Tel: 012-9358-2500 (24 hr)
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:22:00 PM): Okay,I will Call To see how they will help me Honey,Thank you for the wonderful idea.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:22:45 PM): how much are fees ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:23:26 PM): 430 pounds.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:24:48 PM): That Is Going to be 860 In Our Currency
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:25:39 PM): no $697.37
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:26:24 PM): Ohh I was wrong then....
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:26:59 PM): yes at todays exchange rate ..
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:27:32 PM): Okay.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:28:19 PM): and who do you have to pay it to ?? and how do you get your goods ?? are they shipped air cargo ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:30:43 PM): it should be Pay to the Customs Officer,Will get them when I get Home once the air cargo get Off Here and I will be home Immediatly to get My goods.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:31:38 PM): in D.C ?? british air goes non stop there ...
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:33:53 PM): I havent even Put them On Cargo Yet,I Could change my mind and make then Goes through shipping
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:34:14 PM): If that Could be the easiest way I dont know babe
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:34:40 PM): wish one do you think is more better?
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:35:16 PM): My first time of doing this makes everything worthless to me
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:36:54 PM): well what is in the 'goods' ?? that makes a diferance ..they know you are young and are takeing advanage of you !!! you should go to scotland yard and see if the fees are litige !!! really they may be trying to rob you ..
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:38:01 PM): damn wish i was over there they would know not to mess with an american ...british scum ..
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:39:02 PM): hey any new pics ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:40:05 PM): Its Okay babe,I will Try to Find Out what The fees are for.But I was In thier Office today But they were saying i have to pay a fees to enable my goods shipped .
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:40:57 PM): Havent Taken any,just Never thought of that due to my predicament,and those you have seen was taken when i was in state.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:41:29 PM): Have Sold my phone to see how i could try to come up with the money but no way.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:41:31 PM): humm i though they were when you were in poland ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:42:04 PM): Just staving for the 2 days now babe
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:42:48 PM): sold your phone !!! aww damn that sucks ..where are you staying ?? i could send you a spare i have ..
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:43:38 PM): what are you Going to send me babe?
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:43:57 PM): what do you need ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:45:10 PM): Honey,dont worry I will talk with them at the hotel Okay.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:45:17 PM): ok
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:45:53 PM): let me know what the fees are for ..ok ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:46:11 PM): They Might want to help bcz I have been In thier Hotel for long now.so they might give me some food if i dont have money.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:47:18 PM): I will find Out First thing tomorrow Then I will write you a text to come Online.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:49:42 PM): Hey Dave,did you Miss me at all?
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:50:02 PM):
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:51:15 PM): [44] (20) 7499-9980 Consular Duty Officer this is a privet number of someone i know ok he can help you more than me his name is mike swan ..ok i dont give out his number to just anyone ..have him call me at my privet cell he knows the number and we all can talk ..
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:52:33 PM): Okay Babe,Thank you so much honey.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:53:10 PM): I am so Greatful for your care and Understanding towards me.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:53:26 PM): I cant wait to repay you back In wish ever way I could
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:54:47 PM): tell him i said the word ' gandalf ' ok ?? oh i could think of things you could do but you are a lady and i a gentelman ..call mike at 8am london time i'll e-mail him tonight ..ok??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:55:46 PM): Okay babe,I will Call Hime.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:55:49 PM): him
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:56:29 PM): ok he will hook you up ..and if he cant i will ..ok ??
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:57:11 PM): Okay babe.Thank you so much Dave.
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:57:19 PM): I am greatful.
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:57:47 PM): no problem ..now i have to go pack ..talk to you later
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:58:13 PM): Okay babe,Take Good Care of Your self for me
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:58:34 PM): wish you had more pics ...
onlyacowboy (6/18/2009 11:58:49 PM): oh well !! nighty night
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:58:54 PM): and make sure Kid is been taken Good Care of Till I get to see you Both sometime soon
lilianrobert14 (6/18/2009 11:59:15 PM): sweet dreams.Good Nite babe


lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 12:00:04 AM):
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 12:00:15 AM): hey tell mike to ship you and goods to orlando .and i'll pick you both up and bring you to the ranch for dinner ...oh crap i forgot .i'm out of town this weekend ..damn ..
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 12:00:21 AM):
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 12:00:32 AM):
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 3:04:18 PM): hi babe
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 5:44:46 PM): Hi babe
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 5:45:08 PM): I am Online Now You There babe?
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:42:08 PM): Hi hun
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:50:53 PM):
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 9:50:56 PM): hi
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:51:17 PM): Hello dave.How have you been and Kid?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 9:52:08 PM): doing good he is here with me tonight ..
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:52:47 PM): Thats Cool.Is He with You right now as we speak?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 9:53:54 PM): well in shower ..
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:54:37 PM): Okay .when He get Off shower tell him I say Hi
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:54:51 PM): Did You get all My text Messages babe?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 9:55:05 PM): ok he has to wear bag over cast ...
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 9:55:36 PM): some came thro ..one was hard to understand ...
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:55:51 PM): wish One was That?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 9:56:50 PM): said something about paper ..then message was lost ..i tryed to retrive it but it was from 811 .com
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 9:58:53 PM): Ohh,Heres what I said In the Text,Customs Duty papper work.Thats what I was asked to pay for....and You also said I you will be Giving me 1000.so I am Thinking How soon Could raise the Money and Pay you back bcz Its Much
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:00:25 PM): oh ok i get it now
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:02:03 PM): Honey I Can give you The Hotel address to send me the money and it will be sent Under my name.Lilian Robert
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:03:43 PM): oh you never called mike ??
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:03:46 PM): Honey what Time does westen Union close Over There?
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:04:17 PM): I tried But It was Not Going Through,
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:05:02 PM): I think I should have his email addres Or Home addres,so I can Try and see Mike Before Coming Home if you want..
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:05:41 PM): western union ..i dont know
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:06:03 PM): what time is it now?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:06:12 PM): what is hotel address ??
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:06:29 PM): 1010pm
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:07:04 PM): Ohh western Union should be Close by now,....
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:07:12 PM): 20 flat 7 inverness terrace bayswater w2 3hu london.
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:07:33 PM): Heres My name...Lilian Robert.
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:07:55 PM): yes i guess western union is closed
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:09:08 PM): Honey have you writen the address?
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:10:20 PM): Honey,whats Your Full name?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:11:29 PM): you there ??
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:11:33 PM):
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:11:38 PM): Yes babe,I am here
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:14:07 PM): Hello babe,Have you Gone?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:15:33 PM): bad storm here ...brb lighting
lilianrobert14 (6/19/2009 10:32:47 PM): .Honey,That One week You asked me to spend wih you is not enough,we need to spend much time together just having fun and get to know more about eachother very well..is there a warehouse in your area?
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:48:39 PM): bad storm lost power ..dont know how long it will be on
onlyacowboy (6/19/2009 10:49:54 PM): oh well mut be off line ..talk to you soon



lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:08:06 PM): Hi
onlyacowboy (7/10/2009 5:08:46 PM): hi how are things
lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:08:57 PM): where have you been sweetie?
onlyacowboy (7/10/2009 5:09:40 PM): been working you ??
lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:10:57 PM): I Guess another Lady brought you online today sweetie...
lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:10:57 PM): Thats why You are online right?
onlyacowboy (7/10/2009 5:11:33 PM): yea gettin nudes
onlyacowboy (7/10/2009 5:12:37 PM):
lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:22:45 PM): whats the smile all about?
onlyacowboy (7/10/2009 5:23:00 PM): just a smile
lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:23:41 PM): Okay
lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:28:22 PM): do You know You are Heartless man?and do you Know you have hurt my feelings?
onlyacowboy (7/10/2009 5:29:24 PM): do you know i have see your scam before !! did not fall for it did i ?? oh well !!
lilianrobert14 (7/10/2009 5:32:40 PM): did you just called me a scam?
onlyacowboy (7/10/2009 5:34:17 PM): so whats your pitch this week ??





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2009-07-27, 22:33:00   (updated: 2009-07-27, 22:48:36)
DOC from United States  
@sulley from United States, 2009-07-27, 18:04:37

You need to get your email address off of here please email the Amin.
of this site at: (ptiemann_2000@yahoo.com) request him to remove
your addy from this thread: Primer for first time visitors (Dating Scams)
2009-07-27, 18:04:37

Now your letters. I am interested in because my scammer started and
ended 'her' letters the same as yours. Please take a look at some of
mine: http://www.delphifa..=7#145729
Leave me a comment here or on my 'Olga' thread and tell me if you
find a match or not. Do not post your email address on here no more,
scammers come here looking for addys you will be receiveing a lot of
scam mail if it remains. OK? I would also recommend not sending your
girl any money. I hope to hear from you soon.
2009-07-28, 07:56:48
anonymous from Staten Island, United States  
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'I was contacted by a man called 'Britt' I had my profile up on a dating site called Plenty of Fish.com. Needless to say, he was very handsome. He said that he was widowed, with a 15 year old son, named Henry. Stupidly, I fell for his words and at his request to send me a gift of flowers, gave him my home address. ( Bad move, I know) He sent me a beautiful boquet of flowers with candy, a huge teddy bear and balloons!

I believed for sure this was the real thing. He quickly professed deep love for me and that was God's gift to him. He said that he was from Sweden and that he was traveling in Benin ( west Africa, on a business contract) he suddenly developed problems with his business transaction, and required money. He told me that he wanted to come visit me in my town, but that he did not money. He wanted me to pay for his trip and hotel and said he would pay me back/ I told him that I did not have any money to lend.

He then stated sending me beautiful, passionate love letters--all were plagiarized! I tried to find him on one of the people search websites and he was not listed ANYWHERE! I confronted him about this but he had nothing to say other than his love for me was real and that he was real. I became very suspicious and started to further investigate an found out about these dating scams. Thankfully I did not send any money to him. Ladies and gentlemen, PLEASE be careful.
2009-07-28, 11:43:05
anonymous from United States  
i looked up ip address 82.128.50.35 for dale_hubel2000@yahoo.com and shows lagos nigeria. guess its not my dream man afterall
2009-07-28, 17:13:31   (updated: 2009-07-28, 17:36:17)
DOC from United States  
Hello My Lovely Man and Sun Sulley

We need to talk me about your letters and please post her email addy and any other info you have on her. Thx DOC
http://www.delphifa..57#150444

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2009-07-28, 18:01:17   (updated: 2009-07-28, 18:02:26)
from United States  

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