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Address: Olha, Russia
Lenina St. 3, Flat 9
Other Comments: Here is the letter I received, same as others received:
Hello my dear, thank you for your answer!
At first I think I have to say that I am new in internet and I have only good
you should know that I am not very good writer in english, please be patient to
messages and see many mistakes. to be fair I don't know what you want to know
about me,in principle
I am usual girl.I think I should tell you about me, my interests,tastes and
hobbies.I think I will tell you
about things I want to know about you and you will know my future questions.
I am 25 years old,my birthday is May, 19, 1982. I so much don't want to get
older ,when I can see old women I am
getting crazy to think that it is my future .I do all the best to keep my youth
and I keep my body well.In spite of all
difficultes here I am trying to be in good condition and I do a lot of exercises
to be in good shape!
I am about 176 cm tall (5.6) and my weight is about 56 kg. I've been told I look
well enough ,
and I think that all women have own beaty. I have never been married and I don`t
I have one youngest sisters and it is great problem for us because we have only
two rooms flat.you can't imagine what does it mean to be born
in small town in Russia,there are not any chances to live well,to get a good
job.All young people leave towns to search
great luck in big cities but nobody waits for them there. I want to leave
Russia,I know it sounds ugly but I know that I
will be lost here like many young girls before me. It is not place to grow
children and have stable future.I want to meet my right man .
I think in future I can work as fitness trainer I have a certificate. My mother
is my great problem too,she has a great dream to see me
married and she wants to make me happy but I think it is only my business I am
not a little child. She tells me every day
that I should get married very soon... To be fair I am not sure I am able to
explain all in first message I
want to say so much! I just want you to know that I am not afraid to work,I am
oriented and I am sure you will be not disappoined to meet me in real life.I am
going to spend three months
abroad to work in any good place,agency promises to help me because it is only
the way I can leave Russia.I will have all documents
to travel in a few days and i will travel to St. Petersburg (Russia) then,from
St. Petersburg I will travel to you and they ask me about name of the city i am
going to work,
if you don't mind to meet me please tell me the name of your city and nearest
international airport! I will book my flight from St. Petersburg!
I think it would be so great to meet my love and stay there forever.I know that
it is not so easy like I think but I think it is possible that I meat my real
I want to love and to be loved I want to build our own happiness,only me and my
man there. I don't smoke,I tried to smoke when I was younger.
I may have a glass of red dry vine,sometimes it helps to relax. I try to take
care of my body and face. I know it is all I have.
My soul may have any itnterst for you later, I thinkso.I am not a little girl
and I know that at first almost all men look
at body ,legs and face.God created males such persons. Well,I think I am lost in
my letter,I am not sure you
understand my goals,please feel free to ask.
I live in Russia,town Olha, Lenina street 3, flat 9 ,it is near big city
My town is rather far from St. Petersburg. I want you to reply if you understand
my mind,my intentions,my soul,if
not please reply too, I will continue my searching. Well, I will close this
letter,I think you are tired to read
it.and If you think that I should write shorter letters please tell me. I write
from internet cafe in
Irkutsk because there are not cafes and possibility to use internet in my small
town,we have 4 digital phone number and we
can't call abroad.Even to call in any big town here in Russia I have to order
the call in advance.and I would like to say
please don't worry if I keep silence sometimes I have no time to travel ,it is
about 25 minutes by bus from my town till Irkutsk
Please tell me more about you,your tastes,likes and dislikes .also I have a few
impotant questions do you
like strong drinks too much?can you be very drunk?very ofthen?can you be rude
Well,I have to stop or I will write without ending.Kiss you !see you later. In
my next e-mail I will write you more things about myself and
more details about my trip and work. I will miss you, your Galina
Please read the welcome page 'Are you being scammed and this is your first visit here?' -- link can be found just below this post -- for detailed info on Russian dating scam operations in Mari el republic and the scam triangle.
If you reply to the scammers in English, they won't bother reading it -- especially in the pre-money-letter phase. There are two main reasons for this:
1. they're too busy spamming hundreds of potential victims: Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V
2. they can't speak English and use internet translators
In other words, your subtly amusing responses in English don't work!! so don't waste your time.
You might elicit a response from a scammer if you write in Russian, especially if you abuse him (usually 'him'). To attract his attention, you have to use an obvious subject line.
PROCHITAJTE ETO, SKAMERSTVO! (read this, scam business)
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'aj moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivesh v (insert name of city), ty zhivesh v Yoshkar Ole, prestupnom gorode v Rossii. Ty posylaesh mne ukradennye fotografii i khuevye skopirovannyye pis'ma. Skoro ty poprosish u menya den'gi chtoby poluchit' vizu (no nevozmozhno poluchit' vizu bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot menya, a takzhe bez biletov),
Ya sekonoml'u tebe vrem'a. Poshel ots'uda, chtoby naiti sebe chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Mne ne interesen tvoi skamerstvo. Idi na khuy, ubl'udok!
(English version for your benefit...translations of Russian insults are loose):
Hello you complete twat!
Please don't insult my intelligence. You don't live in (insert name of city), you live in Yoshkar Ola, a criminal city in Russia. You send me stolen photos and crappy copy letters. Soon, you'll ask for money to obtain a visa (impossible to obtain without a letter of invitation from me and tickets as well.)
I will save you some time. Get lost and find an honest job, you nasty swindler. I'm not interested in your scam business. Fuck you!
anonymous from Greenville, United States
I posted right before the last guy. 'Galina' asked me for money and I posted:
'Oh, my Darling,
Why, must the world so cruel be? In these last few days of reading your letters of broken english, and hearing the redundancy of them, has made me love you. I will die if you don't come to America and my heart explodes like a pimple when I think you might not come. You must come!!
Of course I will send you the money. I'd be a damn commie if I didn't. Not to mention a fool. I must here your endless, run-on sentences ranting in my ear for the rest of my life. Nothing turns me on the same way. I've told my employer to give me a little overtime (80 hrs/wk) just so I can send you the money. I hope he doesn't find out that I'm bangin' his wife.
Oh, sorry. You don't mind if I screw a couple other women while I wait for you, right? I mean, I really do love you (I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it) but let's face it, it's gonna be a long, long time before I can grab a grand for you. That's a lot of money.......and I'll need some pussy in the meantime.
I have an idea my love, why don't you get off of your cute little ass and get a damn job. If you do some work, and I do some work, then you don't have to scam me and I can buy bubble gum. Fuck you. This scam would only work if I was mentally retarded, FYI. And even if I was mentally retarded, I probably would have to be so stupid to be fooled by this one that I would be unable to read or operate a computer. Rethink this scam.
BTW- Please let me know if anyone has ever fallen for this so I can laugh at them. Thanks.'
and I got this back:
'Dear Matthew, I do not wish to speak you farewell words!
Unfortunately I have no money to remain here
It is very a pity to me, that so all has turned out with money!
But without your help I cannot arrive to you.
My relatives cannot help me any more.
Mum has given me almost all of money, that I would arrange to myself this travel.
If you cannot help me, I should come back to myself home.
But I do not want again loneliness. I do not wish to come back home.
I do not wish to remain in St. Petersburg. I do not want anybody except for you.
Above all I wish to continue travel!
I want to you! I want, that you have surrounded me with tenderness, heat, care.
I wish to think of tomorrow with confidence.
I want, that you always were a number.
I wish to fall asleep and wake up with an idea on you (and it is better in your embraces).
I wish to be assured that is necessary to you everywhere and always, now and then.
I wish to look simply in your eyes
I want, that your warm breath warmed to me hands.
I wish to see your smile and the nobility, that it is intended to me.
I want, that every morning me you awoke, instead of an alarm clock.
I wish to be your sun.
I want, that you heated hands in back pockets of my jeans.
I want, that you paid off with kisses for rent of pockets.
I wish to belong to you and the nobility, that yours, and you - mine.
I wish to trust you and to not doubt.
I wish to hear your voice.
I want, that you missed me and did not find to yourself a place.
I wish to take hold completely of your soul, ideas, all your essence.
I wish to be for you all. a
I wish to know, that you know this all.
I want, that you loved me.
I wish to sit down in the plane and to depart to you
I wish to love you.
I grieve without you!
Thanks for your letters and warm words!
I wait from you for good news! I on former hope for your help!
I don't even know what half of those things mean. @_@
So I sent this back:
'Hahaha! How's it feel to want, bitch!?!
I thought that was funny, then our russian friend sent me only the picture that I've posted. I thought that was even funnier. LOL
So I sent this back:
That's funny!! Could you answer a few questions for me. I am not mad at you and I don't think badly about you. I am just really curious. Maybe you can answer some of these questions for fun.
Is that what you really look like?
Are you really in Russia?
Do people fall for this?
Do you know that there are huge forums online that are easy to find and describe this scam accurately?
Are you even a female?
Do you know how aware Americans are of ID theft?
I think the idea behind the scam is pretty good. You just need to tweak it a bit.
1. Read your responses!!
I could tell right away that the whole thing was scripted. If you directly answered some of my questions, I would have thought it was real. Put a little effort into it. We're talking about a thousand bucks.
2. Don't give out so many details.
When you say things like: 'I have to go to the internet cafe,' you make people think about that fact. That was a clue to me that you were fake. How did she get those pictures on the computer at the internet cafe? If you don't mention facts like that at all, they can't be shot down.
3. Don't use the script!!
The first letter works. At that point I believed you. You absolutely need to write every letter after that. Don't use the same letters on everyone. All I had to do was google 'galina mailcomfort' and I found you out. People actually posted letters I already received. That's not gonna work. You need to make a new letter for every attempt. If you did that to me, you might have gotten me.
Good luck in your efforts. I sincerely mean that. I know it's not an easy game. I highly recommend that you use the suggestions I gave you and you might make some money. Please answer my questions.
I thought that was really interesting stuff if he/she would answer it. to my surprise this is what I got:
'Who you? We are familiar? ))
Do not worry, it I joke))
In occasion of pictures and the Internet of cafe: I thought that you the modern person ((
You heard about Flash-card???
On it it is possible to write down the information, PHOTOS from the camera and then to forward on a computer
It is to tell the truth boring to me to talk to you
You such not skilled))
A nasty jumble of attempted English. Hahaha!! Too funny! I sent this back:
maybe. But I've never seen anyone in an internet cafe uploading images onto their computers. If their computers even have a flash reader. Stupid Russians........think they can fool an American. I laugh at you Ruskie! Har har har har har!!!
You say I'm not skilled? You're the one trying to scam people that are twice as smart as you!!! Stupid little bitch!!
BTW - has anyone ever fallen for it? You never answered me.'
I'll let ya'll know when/if I get a reply. :)
anonymous from Greenville, United States
I just posted but I would like to add that it would be really funny if everyone that got those letters sent back that reply I wrote every time. Haha!! Even funnier still if people sent that reply before any money is requested. Just an idea.
[hidden] from United States
To all guys out there!! After I was stupid thinking maybe I found a nice girl and had been attempted to be scammed before (I wouldn't send money) I quit talking to the last girl and this is what I decided to do after reading up on how to 'string them along'. I have been playing with this one for a while but finally got sick of the games. I found out a while back from this site 'IT' was a scammer also and for a long time 'IT' never asked me for one red cent. Finally in Feb 08 'IT' did. I will post that letter someday. I deleted my name from the letters just because. I am and will not be called a fool. I had a good time leading 'IT' on until, I like I said, got sick of playing games! BEWARE GENTLEMEN!! They need to catch these people. It is unfair to guys with tender hearts (yeah I know I got one, but now a wiser one)just wanting someone to be with. Frankly it sucks. Do not fall for it especially if you go to various dating sites and they don't have a picture and want you to email them outside of the site. Oh by the way they all come NO SUBJECT in the reason for the letter line. DO NOT FALL FOR IT! If you do, yank their chain as they do you...........I did its fun! LOLl ...................More to come about Natalya or is it Natasha........or Dalya .........or just create a name!! LOL
From: fine_dream (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Sent: Fri 12/07/07 12:15 PM
Reply-to: fine_dream (email@example.com)
To: I'm not tellin' ya!!!
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Hello My Lovely Man And My Sun _________!!!!!!!!!!! Today at me goodday. I have woken up with good mood. Saw fine dream at night. Hasreceived your letter. But much me does not suffice for full happiness.I do not have not enough your embraces, kisses, gentle words, passion,tenderness, love, I want to feel your breath. But all this only indreams, but I believe that they begin a reality and me to become moreeasy. I miss you_______. I think of you, I dream of that as we areengaged in love as we groan of happiness, passions and love. When Iwent today on street that have not come nearly in a hole, I thought ofyou and did not notice it and only before it have suddenly stopped.You would be would be desirable me that with me, that I could gotogether with you and hold you for a hand. Could talk to you aboutall. In the evening we could look TV have supper together, kiss tocaress one another, to make love. I want to fill ours with you lifesby that that did not suffice us while we have not got acquainted. Idid not have not enough love, tenderness and caress and I have foundit with you but now I still do not have it more strongly and I do notknow what to make what we have met faster. All my ideas only about you ___________ and about that as it will be good when we can be together. Ilove you, and I know that it not simply words, this feeling whichlives in my heart and helps me to live and knock to my heart, whichbelong to you ________! Yours and only your loving Natalya.
Eddie from Sweden
anonymous from Greenville, United States
I could have answered all of those questions for you.
Letter from a scammer (translated from Russian)
Från: 'Anna' <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Ämne: Re: Прочитайте это письмо
Datum: 05 July 2006 17:40
Greetings 'Anna'! Please do not offend my intelligence.
Me: You don't read my letters. You ignore my questions. I write to you in Russian, but you don't see, because you don't read my letters.
Scammer: Yes I see that you write in Russian, but I correspond with many such as you. I cannot write to everyone individually.
Me: You send me copied letters.
Scammer: Certainly. Then you are better than others?
Me: You write to me using a proxy server from the USA....a typical trick for an Internet-scammer. If you are sincere, why do you hide your location?
Scammer: I use a SOCKS-server. Usually I use GPRS Internet and you all cannot equally learn where I am. You can see only IP of the operator of cellular communication.
Me: Your photos are very beautiful, but you're not a real girl. Probably, you're a man called Boris.
Scammer: You're right, but not Boris certainly.
5. You're a professional criminal who deceives money from lonely men who are only searching for the partner. Why do you do it? Are you too stupid to work? Or too lazy?
Scammer: Here only it is not necessary to speak about nonsense. You are a fool if you want to find a wife in the Internet. It is not real. The average salary in my city is 150 dollars in a month. The choice is simple - either poverty or larceny. Now I earn 5000 dollars. Our validity does not leave a choice. You can though choke in beautiful words about honesty and nobleness but when would it be desirable TO GUZZLE morals? It leaves only the second plan. I very much doubt, that you are capable to understand it.
Me: A scammer should be cleverer than his victim. But you're too stupid to be successful. If I could find you, I would kick your end face. *(didn’t know the Russian word for ass, but I do now)
Sacmmer: Do not reproach me in your dullness. I correspond with a whole division of sexually perverted muzhiks and everyone is a fool. And I am quite successful in the business. Be pleased, that we shall not meet, differently I would will thrust your leg into your задницу or end face, as you call it :)
Me: Try to behave nobly and to not deceive money.
Scammer: Necessarily, sometime. Can be in a following life.
PS I have 3 more letters like this from the scammer, who taught me a lot. But like I said YOU HAVE TO WRITE IN RUSSIAN!!!!!!
Eddie from Sweden
For those of you who don't have any background info about Russian dating scams, think your scammer's actually a girl, or who couldn't be bothered to do a bit of homework by clicking on the very convenient welcome page link just below this post:
PLEASE READ THIS...it will teach you everything you need to know about Yoshkar Ola scammers and their organization. It's a Russian article I found on the internet. I agree it's probably a bit long for someone who's suffering from ADS, and it took me ages to translate it, but it was worth it!
'To do Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V'. -- the most popular joke in the recent Yoshkar Ola comedy stage show. This year, jokes about scammers are very popular. Students are drumming and chanting about the boy who loved money so much as a young man marches across the stage with a placard announcing 'I love Western Union'. The audience laughs out loud, everybody understands it. Because for Yoshkar Ola students, the question 'what does the word scammer mean?' is not an issue -- everyone is familiar with it, everyone knows what it means.
'Hello, my name Elena. I read about you in your profile. You are very interesting to me. I want to get aquainted with you. Write me, I shall wait'. Any customer of an English-language dating site periodically gets these messages. And very soon any interested American, Canadian, British or citizen of whatever country learns that far away in a Russian suburb lives Lena, who has been dreaming about him all her life. Then our 'prince on a white horse' learns that it's love and that it was a gift from God. And maybe (why not believe in fate?) a gullible foreigner will then send a couple of thousand dollars to the Russian princess or a ticket for her to live with him the rest of their lives. Eventually he will learn that 'Lena' is actually a 'fat Boris', but chances are that he will still hate the ruthless Russian women anyway.
You won't find any modern Russian dictionary that defines the word 'scammer', except for possible an English-Russian dictionary. In English, the word 'scam' means fraud, but in Russian it has a narrower meaning: fraud on Internet dating websites. Thus a scammer is the same 'fat Boris' who pretends to be a girl, starts an Internet romance, and then asks for money. The word scamming in Russian has another, more colourful and patriotic definition: 'to take the rich'. Indeed, why not 'take the rich', why not help them share their money? This actually sounds quite just, the weak taking from the strong, the poor from the rich. It also soothes the conscience of the scammers, as we are told that they don't sleep too well.
Scamming stands out from all types of online fraud because it is the easiest variety to crank out. It's a dyed-in-the-wool production process, where everything is divided into stages. To minimize time and effort, the process was streamlined long ago. In the early stages, there's no need to think, you just have to work hard. The scammer usually receives his first money after about two months -- this time frame usually allows acquaintance, friendship, love and the desire to meet in person, which is unfortunately an unrealistic desire. After establishing another generic mailbox such as 'ElenochkaForYou@....' or 'Natasha547@....' and registering on the dating sites, the most boring part for scammers starts - 'zakidka'. This is exactly what the above-mentioned comedy show meant by 'To do Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V'.
Scammers start on the dating sites by looking for suitable candidates to scam. First, they select the country (usually the USA), then the region or state, making sure that they don't interfere with a colleague so they don't pick the same victims. The main parameters: male; between the ages of 27 and 50; race - any, except blacks (scammers say that blacks will most likely take you, rather than you taking them). All letters, including the first introductory ones, are pre-written a long time beforehand, and you don't have to think much about anything, just 'Ctrl-C' (copy), 'Ctrl-V' (insert) and the mails are sent. 'After the overnight monotonous work doing Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, you become totally dumb and tired' - Andrei, who will soon have to do it for several nights in a row, shares his story, 'this is the most boring job, the most interesting part comes later'.
But the truth is, the further it goes, the more sad it gets. With each new template and with each new photo the scammer becomes increasingly involved in the scam. After the fourth template 'half of the rich' have disappeared: some don't like the girl, some aren't looking for anything serious, but most are just afraid to deal with Russians. In the end, only the most desperate and naive remain. Or maybe it's more convenient to think of them as 'stupid'? Stupid and rich - this way you don't feel sorry for them. 'I just don't get it, how can they meet somebody on the Internet and accept anything?', says Andrei, who although he's been scamming for more than a year still doesn't understand.
Those few foreigners who really want to find their love online learn that they have found it in the approximately seventh letter -- although they have actually been found by scammers. The scammer then proclaims her love, and does it naturally and fast (because the conveyor can't wait). Next, depending on the reaction, 'the girl' immediately, or quite soon, asks for money for a visa, tickets, or both.
'Sure, I feel sorry for them', says Andrei, but refuses to talk more on the subject.
'This month I earned 15 thousand rubles, and two months ago only four' - Kolya considers scamming a real job and for a provincial student it's a large amount of money to be earning. His office pays scammers 20% of all moneys received, in many other offices they only pay 15%. 'We used to have a guy in our office, to whom one American in the space of three months sent more than twelve thousand dollars'. According to Kolya, how much you earn depends partly on hard work and partly on luck. But not everyone can convince their American lover to send more and more - you need a good imagination. You have to invent reasons why his sweetheart can't fly to him: she's been robbed in the subway, her mother is sick, she's been accused of withholding taxes and put in prison and he has to send money for bail. 'A very popular story is that she accidentally broke an expensive antique vase in a museum and has to pay 3000$ in compensation', Nikolai laughs .
And just like love, the desire to send increasing amounts of cash has to be encouraged. To begin with, a foreigner is asked to send just $300 for a visa. If he sends it, later it will be harder for him to accept the idea that his princess isn't going to fly to him and it becomes much easier to send more money because the barrier of distrust has been broken already. Next, $1,400 for a ticket. How events develop after that is determined by the scammer's brainwashing skills. There are lots of half-myths circulating among scammers, how someone took one American for 40 thousand dollars in a month, that another American robbed his own company to get the money together, and that one really crazy lover got himself heavily in debt, fired from work, refinanced his house and sold his kidney for his non-existent sweetheart. In fact, there are still a few people who believe in 'the humble Russian girl Lena', which can turn into an obsession that they are ready to go bankrupt for: this is the big break for a scammer and they can live off it.
So who is this femme fatale? The whole point is that she doesn't exist, she is a creation of the mutual efforts of a scammer and the victim who sets the direction. Some similarities do exist: she is usually between 25 and 30 years old, beautiful and smart, looking for a serious relationship. Men from Russia don't suit her because they are rude and drink too much. She believes in God and loves the most popular movies and music, is using a dating site for the first time, and always uses Internet cafes. 'It's very important that the girl looks natural, so they can believe in her. Not a supermodel, but good-looking', explains Kolya. Almost all photos are stolen from the Internet, so the real girls are completely unaware that they are indirectly helping to scam foreigners. The site womenrussia.com has an extensive collection of Russian women gathered from scammed men from all over the world, the so-called 'blacklist'. Sometimes a very unexpected picture can turn up there. A real girl called Elvira discovered her photographs and personal details in this blacklist by chance: 'a friend of mine wanted to prove to me how much scamming has increased in Russia and entered my details, and it turned out that I had been on all the scamlists for ages'. Most photos are simply stolen by scammers from the girls' personal pages and blogs, and if you check, you'll see that the 'blacklists' are also full of pictures of Alsu, Valeria and lots of other Russian celebrities.
According to the old-time scammers there are almost 300 offices in Yoshkar Ola (other estimates make it 500). Each office has five working scammers, and there are also girls who pick up the money. Of course, there are no official statistics and the situation is estimated visually, but if it's true then every 100th resident of Yoshkar Ola is a scammer. And if we take into account that almost all scammers are students, and usually guys rather than girls, the typical scammer is easily recognizable. In Yoshkar Ola, the capital of Mari El and simultaneously 'the capital of Russian scamming', all scammers recognize each other. 'Yes, it's true, our city is the capital of scamming', Andrei says with some pride. He recently received a transfer of $1,000 and is in a good mood today, 'other cities have scammers too, but we have more. There are so many scammers in our city that it's almost a legitimate business.'
'I rent my apartment to scammers', says elderly lady, Olga Mihailovna, a housewife, 'they are nice guys and always pay good rent'. 'In the office where I used to work, if we earned 20,000 dollars a month, the owners would pay us a bonus, but some offices can earn 30,000 dollars or more per month' says Andrei. A good office earns about 15,000 dollars per month. Accordingly, the annual income of an office is about 200,000 dollars. And if it's true that Yoshkar Ola has 300 offices then the annual income of Yoshkar Ola from scamming is sixty million dollars.
Nevertheless, scamming has never become an official industry in Yoshkar Ola. The authorities recently closed several offices: they cut off the electricity in the entire building and when the scammers came out to see what was going on (they need electricity to work!), the cops broke into their apartments, arrested everybody and sealed the apartments. After that, the city was quiet for a while. Of course, during this period lots of foreigners were wondering why their 'love' wasn't writing to them. But just two weeks later everybody returned to their offices. There's enough work for everybody: scammers scamming, and law enforcement agencies catching them red handed from time to time.
anonymous from Germany
I got the emails from Galina too...
...with a g8 Pass Pic...
2008-05-21, 09:55:46 (updated: )
[hidden] from Australia
These pictures were also reported as the following identity:
Name: Albina Aytakova
Address: Flat 3
11 Kazakova Street
Other Comments: Appears to be a professional scammer with a multitude of names and a fake passport to go with each and every name.
Took four letters before they asked for money!