To anonymous from United States - What's her deal ... If you look at the birthday picture, the food in front of her looks like sushi & sashami - she told me that it was some kind of little cakes and she never had sushi or sashami before - to me this says that the person writing to us is not the person in the picture!
'Liliya' is very good at what (s)he does. She answers most questions and read what you write especally after the first month - she pays more attention to your questions after the first month. Here is her into letter and I understand that it is typical (more letters follow):
Hello New Friend (NAME)!!!!!
(NAME) I am glad to receive your letter. I am glad that you have answered
my letter. The site of acquaintances has shown me yours profile which
coincided with my inquiry. You have seemed to me to the most
interesting and I have decided to write to you. I want to tell more
about myself. My name Liliya. I live in city PIGANKA. To me of 28
years, I was never married, I live together with mum. Daddy at me is
not present also I do not know where he. I work as nurse in local
hospital. I like my work, I can help people and to me it very much
pleases. I am glad when I see happy people, and you (NAME)? I go to
cinema, I like to have a rest and I like to dance, go to theatre. I
can not have a rest much because it is necessary to work much. To me
it is very bad one and consequently I have decided will get acquainted
to you. At us in city has appeared the Internet of cafe and I have
learned that from it help is possible will get acquainted and has
decided to try. (NAME) you have liked me also I want to learn you better.
I hope that you will tell about yourself more. I as hope to receive
many your beautiful photos. I want to learn as from you character?
What you search in women? How you have a rest? I with pleasure shall
answer all your questions and I shall be glad to receive your letters
frequently. I send you a photo, It is a photo it has been made in the
past to year, I was photographed by my girlfriend. It I hope I to you
I like I shall wait for your letter on my e-mail:
Your new friend Liliya.
This is her second letter:
Hello (NAME) !!!!!
How your day? I hope that all well and you feel normally. I am very
glad to receive your letter. My profile is spoken that by I from USA
because I could not be registered from Russia and I do not understand
why? Simply it was pleasant to Me as your state refers to, therefore I
have chosen it! For me the main thing that favourite was reliable,
kind and sincere! I have sent you the letter and then left because
other messages from people with which I have bothered am not
interested. I do not have pets (NAME) I am glad to receive your letter and
I am glad that is interesting to you. You liked my photo? And today's?
I shall send necessarily to you more than the photos and I hope that
you as will send me the photos. At me it is a lot of questions to you
and I very much want to learn you better and more. I hope that you
will answer them and I can learn more about you. I want will get
acquainted to you for serious relations and I do not want to play in
any games. (NAME) I want to tell about myself more. My growth near 5 ' 10,
weight approximately 54 kgs. A breast, a waist and hips accordingly 89
- 65 - 92. I as want to learn about you more. You will inform me? (NAME) I
love sincerity and honesty. I like cleanliness and the order, I adore
cooking and I think that at me well turns out. I would dream of that
that I had man which will love me and which will be loved by I. (NAME) you
can be it? I want to learn you better and I think that then we with
you shall decide we one approach another whether or not. Inform me
about what woman you you dream? What at her should be character? What
she should be able to make? You will send me a new photo? I hope that
I shall receive it soon. I send you a photo on which I send you the
photo, on which I In the summer, near to the house, we have a
destroyed tunnel and when I was small, I often there happened. I very
much like this photo, the girlfriend speaks I on it very well I look,
it is pleasant to you? I wait for your letter,
This is the 25th letter:
Hello My Lovely Man and My Sun (name)!!!!!!!!!
(name) I so am happy to receive your letter. (name) I want to be with you and
only with you for ever. I would want that we with you were together, I
would want that our happiness never came to an end. I when have read
your letter that have understood that I can not live without you (name), I
want to be with you and I would want that our dreams became a reality.
I so wish to be with you, I cannot wait so long favourite!!!! I cannot live without you!!!
I do not look sports but always wished to go on a match. (name) I would
shall make all that we with you were happy, I tomorrow shall learn all
what we with you were together. I do not want to wait more, I want to
be with you and only with you. You all my life and I are sure that you
that which man I searched for all life. I shall make all but I shall
be with you for ever. I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!! I ADORE YOU ALL HEART!!!!!!!
I want to be in your embraces, I want to feel your love and caress, I
want to feel as you touch to me. To feel your love, your tenderness,
your hands which warm me which caress my body. I would want that each
day, each day was for us full of love and passions, that heart would
sing with happiness. That each day I could hear your voice, could talk
to you feel your breath, I want to see your smile each day!!!!! You
and only you my prince and my happiness and mine the man!!!! I want to
be only with you for ever!!!!!!!!! I the happiest girl because I love
you!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO BE With YOU FOR EVER!!!!!!! I love you (name)!!!!!
I send you a photo, look at it, soon I will with you and we can make
many photo as we with you together. I know that our love will be with
us for ever and never to be finished and soon I shall come to you. We
shall be together, I promise you, we shall meet, I shall find out all
and I shall come to you at once as soon as it will turn out. Soon all
our dreams become a reality, we shall love and enjoy our life to go on
a beach, to make love!!!!!!!
You agree with me (name)!!!!
I love you (name)!!!!!
I want to be with you!!!!!!!!!
Yours and only your loving and gentle Liliya.
Jean (John) yes, that's the pic..I have to say, Iwas awaitng back surgery all of the 4 months she wrote to me...she did me no harm, in fact, her letters were the highlight of my day. beautiful descriptions of 'windless snowy plains, a kitten she named 'Brave', recipe's, berry picking, camping..etc...I'm glad I met her...I never got the pic in the short dress so I'm jealous....I also notice no one has gotten the money question...plese write when you do...She says she is arriving to me in Newark on March 11th...Her lovely man and sun, Bill
Jean,(John) from United States
Yes, it's easy to loose yourself in these wonderful letters that 'our Liliya' send to us, but when you get back to reality and remember that it probably isn't this innocent pretty young lady that's writing, but some stinky guy called Boris - it kind of takes the romance out of it! I'll let you know when the money letter comes, so check back to this thread - it should be very soon!
[hidden] from United States
Say Bill, Jean/john is just telling how Liliya, the nurse from Lum for me is no doubt being used. She sent me her address and when I googled it I found 14 russian missle silos. Maybe she just accidentally sent me the wrong address twice or maybe she knows nothing about Lum. I have consistantly told her that I would come to her because I know she cannot come to me. She even told me how to come from the airport in Moscow, Take a train to Kirvo, then a bus to Lum. I am expecting my flight times from her tonight. Lets see, that will be at least three flights to the USA. Wow maybe she is rich and one hell of a catch. She must be rich, because she writes from an internet cafe, at least $2.50 and hour. She writes to Jean/John in the morning, me at night, and then or course all the others. When is she Nurse in hopital help ill and hurts people. You guys must have another Liliya because she loves only me. Good luck at the Newark Airport. I'll be at SFO. lol andy
OJAS from United States
(1) The e-mail domain is not resident country
(2) Writes scamlish, so could not have traveled to an English speaking country
More details in the e-mail section of
The post just above is the Welcome for those who have not seen it. The same thread has more general links for interested newbies. Keep up the good work you all!
Thank you OJAS
I read your comments many times on this site. All we are trying to do is get a place whether Liliya, Elena or anyone else.to check the picture and it is there. Liliya is not a super model, she does not send really sexey photos untill you ask at two months or so and those are not real sexy. The photos are belieble. If Keven had not posted One photo when I checked for Lum. I would not have found this site. I might not have gotten suspicious. Jean/John and I (andy) met on this site. Exchanged emails through covert means and decided to start this thread. Jean is the brains. lol Our intent is to get all photos in one place for whoever she is. Every thread I have looked at, you have to go through many faces to find the one you want. Letters alone won't do it. Just read some of the ones who still think it is the girl in this photo that is writing. It can not hurt her by posting these photos. If she is guilty than she is busted. If she is inicent like I think then it is less likely these scum bags can use her photo. We win, She wins. One photo on a site like this might just make you think she is lonely. espicially when she looks like a real person, not a model. Wait till you see the personal letters. Her writers have to spend a lot of time. Long and not form. It will all be here when the money letter comes. Your advise is welcomed. andy
anonymous from United States
Jean/John and Andy......Thanks....I don't know what made me google LUM, rUSSIA. and find this...Does this mean she's not coming to Newark on 3/11? I have been unable to keep up with her newest letters now that i know...but in her itinery of her flight, she said she had the ticket money and was going to ask her friend for $456....that, I guess, is what she would have asked for and I,probably, would have given it to her...What these letters did for me while laid up, I'd have paid much more for........I'm talking 120 letters.or more!!!...She said she wanted to come to NY earlier but i told her not until my operation was over and successful....Which it was and she immediately followed with the trip info. Whatever she is or whomever, I want to thank her..ever wonder how many more of us there are??.It has to be a team.........Bill
anonymous from United States
I take it Bill that you are with us now. Her girlfriend will have an accident caused by a drunken driver. It is ok to buy into Liliya. The pictures are not professional like most of the scammers. That is why the pictures have to be posted. Both me and Jean almost bought into this. That is why we wanted one site for Liliya. To make it easy to find. Bill if you really want someone from another country that is true, try China like me. I did find the real love of my life. She sends photos of her and the roses the day after I send. A dozen roses 36.00 Pretty cheap test. And the roses look just like the site you buy them from. Enlish not so good, but I could put this message in Russian with a copy and paste. Two minutes and I am slow on this darned computer. I did that to Liliya once and she said she had to have it translated. lol Keep playing and get as much information as you can. It all helps to stop the Liliya with BALLS to help the lady we have been getting photos of. Her photos should not be used as long as Darya's have. Just remember these girls if they ever really wanted to find someone here would be hard. These scammers have to be stopped. I kinow that is not possible but we can put pressure on them. andy
Jean,(John) from United States
Bill, first I want to say that I'm happy to hear that you are doing better. I do understand what you are saying, and I have to say that I have enjoyed much of the communication, but then I get back to reality. Reality #1 - the person(s) that you're communicating with is not the person in the picture and is likely to be some guy. Reality #2 - the only reason they write is to con people out of their money and some people just don't have it to start. Reality #3 - these people prey on the most vulnerable - people probably badly hurt in previous relationship(s) - people who are looking for some type of connection - people who want to be loved. Reality #4 - they don't give a damn about you or me or anyone else - just themselves and the money they can get from you - They have hurt many many people financially, but even more emotionally.
I'm very happy for you that this worked out so well - it gave you hope when you really needed it and you found out about the scam before you shelled out the cash. (s)he will ask for cash!
I'm happy that Andy & I have been able to do something to help.
anonymous from United States
I assume you were not calm enough to bust this guy. You have been at this a long time and I know how it must be. I have been at this site for two months. I was looking for Liliya only. She was hard to find. When I found now my friend Jean/John it was then I decided in my free time I would help. I emailed Annnette, I even tried to call. I told her DO NOT give email and phone. Also told her not to send jerk anymore money unless he comes to her and asks. I did give her my address in case she wants to talk. I am not looking anymore. I found who I want and she has given me permission to continue this quest. She is in China. Pretty good huh, send flowers, and because they are 16 hours ahead I got her photo on Valentines day, she got the flowers on valentines day. Nice to meet you. I have read what you had to say alot in the time since I found this site. Maybe we can become friends too. Andy
OJAS from United States
I appreciate Andy, and others for reading my posts.
Yes, I have been here longer. I know when I see a victim, they deserve immediate compassion. Unfortunately one needs composure to express compassion. However with my rage at the perpetrator boiling my blood, I am also the one that needs some help, i.e. someone with calm nerves to reach out to the victim. Thanks a lot to whoever answered my request to answer Annette.
I really feel for her, but do not know how to express with my frayed nerves. Thanks again.
PS Andy, if you in e-mail contact with Tony, I will ask him to forward my e-mail addy to you. If not, you can find his addy posted everywhere on this site, Here is a link http://www.delphifa..p=21#65253