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Name: Natalya


Email: natalya.flover@gmail.com


Address:
Cheboksary
Russia


Other Comments:
Ela me aborda via site de encontro e me manda o email dela:

Escrevo e ela responde:

Hello my friend!!!
It is very pleasant for me to receive your letters.
I like you. I think you the interesting person.
I would like to ask you a little.
You are engaged in sports meets? If yes, what?
I ask it because I love sports meets, and I am borrowed in volleyball. Four times a week I go
to sports a hall.
I very much would like to learn about your character.
I very much similarly to character in us and I therefore would like to find
About your character it is more.
Probably it is interesting to you why I have decided to find
The favourite person with assistance of the Internet.
Simply, I have the girlfriend who now lives in Canada.
She has acquainted with assistance of the Internet with the future husband
And they became loving the friend the friend, and she has left to it.
Now she writes to me letters and speaks, about which as they are happy together.
Recently she has told to me, that she is the pregnant woman, and they will have the child.
I am very pleased for them.
I with impatience shall wait for the letter from you.
Natalya

Respondo:

Hi dear,
I appreciate to have your letter. I would like to have more details about you.
I would like you to tell me where you live in Russia, your work, your hobbies, what you like,
What you expect from a man, things like that.
I am at trading business as a director of a big brazilian company. I am divorced have no children and looking for a nice woman like you to make a family together.
I wait your answer,
Luis


Ela me escreve outra vez

Mando um e-mail em resposta ao dela - o segundo. Troco o nome, a foto mas mantenho o meu e-mail. O que acontece?

Hello Igor! I am glad that you have written me the letter. It will be very interesting to me to get acquainted with you.
Perhaps I will begin the letter on the story on.
My name is Natalya I live in a small city which this city is called Cheboksary to be in Russia.
To me 26 years. I was born on March, 6th per 1982. My growth 168ñì and my weight 56êã. I live with mum in one apartment.
My mum all the life worked as the teacher at school, elementary grades. I very much am proud of mum it at me the best!
All right well I will begin the story about myself, my hobby is sports, very much to like me sports.
Anglisky I has studied at school and after school I have entered the university and there
I have studied in pedagogics so with English I do not have problems. I can easy write and talk on English.
When I studied in university I thought that I future awakes absolutely another and my branches can be useful.
And now I work on two works and it is very difficult to consult for me since time, it does not happen almost.
But I always find time for the private life and a hobby.
I like to listen to music from classics or silent music it very much calms me. I do not have not what bad habits,
I do not smoke and not when I did not use narcotic substances I treat it badly
I not when was not married and I do not have children. And I in searches of the half I think that by means of the correspondence I will find it.
If you have to me the questions, which interesting about me ask me, I with the great pleasure will answer you them!
Tell to me about itself more in detail, it is very interesting to me to learn about you?
Your girlfriend Natalya!!!!



Qual o IP dela???
Received: from Loner-XP.mshome.net ([91.144.161.179])
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2008-10-22, 16:29:49
Amandio from Brazil  
Mais sobre 'ela'

Natalya aka Loner
natalya.flover@gmail.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.85.03) Professional
91.144.161.179
Cheboksary, Russia
2008-10-22, 20:38:57
OJAS from United States  
Thanks Amandio,
Good illustrative posting.

A description of this girl - mole over left upper lip

photo rotation is a scam pointer http://www.datingnm..ussian.htm
2008-10-23, 04:04:47
anonymous from Mexico  
hi baby i love you
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2008-10-25, 08:43:25   (updated: 2008-10-25, 08:45:43)
Amandio from Rio De Janeiro, Brazil  
Recebi essa informação sobre como detectar se você está sendo vítima de um golpe em relacionamentos com estrangeiros, especialmente russas(os).....

Por ter me parecido uma informação bastante eficiente, eu mesmo resolvi checar em quais dos casos mencionados, as correspondências que tenho recebido são ou não provenientes de potenciais fraudadores.

Os exemplos apresentados são reais e aconteceram e ainda acontecem comigo.

Assim resolvi publicar essa informação buscando ajudar pessoas inocentes e honestas com pouco ou nenhum conhecimento sobre Internet que buscam encontrar um amor nesses sites de relacionamento tão conhecidos.

Vamos lá:
São 72 dicas publicadas por http://www.datingnm..ssian.htm

Em meu entendimento se você se encaixar em pelo menos 10 das dicas dadas, esteja certo que está sendo preparado para levar um belo golpe, se já não levou. Desconfie, fique atento e NUNCA MANDE DINHEIRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As frases ou palavras só não serão traduzidas quando não houver possibilidade devido ao fato de normalmente elas(e) escreverem em inglês. Alguns pontos são muito genéricos, com outros eu não concordo e ao final eu acrescento mais alguns de minha própria experiência.

Você está sendo vítima de um golpe do namoro?

1.     Você fez contato num site de encontros como o Combine, ParPerfeito, Match, etc... e não está acostumado a receber muitas respostas aos seus contatos;
Aconteceu comigo, depois de fazer contato com uma russa, comecei a receber e-mails de pelo menos 13 outras.

2.     Eles(as) fizeram o primeiro contato apesar da diferença de idade de 20 anos ou mais e/ou você nem tem uma foto no site;
Sim, aconteceu dessa maneira.

3.     O perfil delas(es) sempre aponta para cidades como Kazan, Cheboksary, Novocheboksarsk , Kirov or Yoshkar Ola, Zelenodolsk;
Em meu caso vejam alguns exemplos:
Alina
Zelenodolsk, Russia
Anastasiya
Zelenodolsk, Russia
Irina
Zelenodolsk, Rússia
Marina
Kirov, Rússia
Marina
Cheboksary, Russia
Marina
Novocheboksarsk, Russia
Natalya
Cheboksary, Russia
Natalia
Novocheboksarsk, Russia
Valentina
Cheboksary, Russia
http://www.delphifa..879.shtml
http://www.delphifa..866.shtml
http://www.delphifa..869.shtml

4.     A apresentação sempre começa com palavras como: 'I the xxxx' (cheerful girl, sociable person, etc...);
Sim é assim mesmo. Alguns exemplos das “meninas” acima:
Marina…….I the cheerful, kind, devoted, charming woman existing in this fine, but sometimes unfair world without the partner in life……….

5.     Dizem a idade assim: 'To me of xx years' or 'Me of xx years';
Alina....To me Now 27 years ....
Anastasiya....that to me 32 years……
Marina........To me of 27 years..........

6.     Seus nomes em geral contêm 4ka: 'Svetlano4ka', Irino4ka', etc..;
Olha uma aí! irino4ka_sharm@yahoo.com

7.     Algumas fotos estão rotadas em 45 graus;
Sim é verdade:
http://www.delphifa..879.shtml

8.     No perfil dizem que não se importam com idade, raça, ou renda;
É só olhar em qualquer site de relacionamento.......

9.     Os seus e-mails contêm palavrões em russo como 'poebushka', 'zaebok', 'syka', 'klitr', etc..Não tem idéia do que significa? Melhor para você;
Eu nunca recebi nenhum com palavrões..........

10.     Os perfis em geral parecem com uma introdução dirigida a alguém, por exemplo dizendo que olharam o seu perfil e na mensagem introdutória simplesmente repetem o que você escreveu lá;
Mariya………..I very sociable person. To me time and again spoke that the romantic person. I such what I am. I like to live simply, instead of to live this life. I like to speak simply without secrets, that is on a straight line. I speak that at me on a shower... This character trait to me has got from mum... As I do not suffer when people I deceive. It very much to me do not like when people use when-ljubo lie.
Marina……..On character the cheerful cheerful person, I try to enjoy life to the full good, every instant the life and to overcome with a smile all difficulties and burdens.

11.     Recém registradas, já têm dez vezes mais visitas que outros que estão lá há muito mais tempo;
É só olhar em qualquer site de relacionamento.......

12.     No perfil dizem que são americanas, canadenses ou européias, mas no e-mail dizem que são russas;
Nunca notei esse caso.

13.     Quando você faz uma pesquisa sobre o perfil delas com o Google, aparecem dezenas ou centenas de respostas;
Verdade: Faça você mesmo uma busca sobre qualquer scammer deste site e verá o resultado.

14.     Seu IP pode ser traçado como originário de Volgatelecom Mari El branch, Nata-info, Fokus-satcom or layeredtech.com;
Também está correto. Veja uns exemplos para Yoshkar Ola, Mari El: Qualquer IP que tenha os nºs 91.144.161.xxx

15.     Usam o software THE BAT para mandar e-mails;
Sim, todas as que estou rastreando usam o mesmo software:
Anastasiya aka Nastya
florestinella@yahoo.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10.01) UNREG
91.144.161.191
Zelenodolsk, Russia
Anna
anna-strokova-vadimovna@rambler.ru
X-Mailer: The Bat!
77.40.20.180
Arsk, Russia
Ksenia aka kssiska
kssiska@gmail.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62 Christmas Edition) Personal
87.118.102.98
Penza, Russia? Or Germany?
Marina aka Marinka
marinkasnezhnka@yahoo.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
91.144.161.180
Kirov, Rússia
Marina aka Mariha
marihakissa@rambler.ru
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.26.6) UNREG
Received: from [10.69.2.156] unknown host (unknown [91.144.161.155])
This is the first time I have this identification!!!!!
Cheboksary, Russia
Marina Balabaeva aka Marinochka
marinkabalabaeva@yahoo.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
91.144.161.163
Novocheboksarsk, Russia
Natalya aka Loner
natalya.flover@gmail.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.85.03) Professional
91.144.161.179
Cheboksary, Russia
Natalia aka Natasha
natasha_egosh@yahoo.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
91.144.161.180
Novocheboksarsk, Russia
Valentina aka Valentinka
valentinka@inbox.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional
91.144.161.130
Cheboksary, Russia

16.     Todas as cartas que enviam são traduzidas do russo para o inglês usando tradutores online e aparecem palavras em russo que o tradutor não conseguiu traduzir, a maioria das palavras está no masculino;
Exemplo: Natalia. ............ children and I did it with great interest, uhazhivaya them.

17.     Chamam o seu perfil de 'structure';
Anna....... The my dear friend!! I looked you on www.parperfeito.com.br, and you structure have very much liked me…….

18.     Dizem que encontraram a sua 'structure' em uma agência de casamentos, mesmo que você só use sites de encontros;
Annushka……..Hello! You have written to me on a structure on a site! For dialogue write to me on E-mail: annushka.girl@gmail.com!!!!! I will wait for your letter on the box with the big impatience! It will be convenient for our correspondence! We can exchange more a photo and we learn each other better! Yours Anna!

19.     Te mandam um e-mail dizendo que o conseguiram no site de encontros;
Anna ……..I looked you on www.parperfeito.com.br, and you structure have very much liked me, and I am casual have found yours email the address and here have solved To you to write the letter………..
Elena……… I would like to ask you, that you would write to me on mine email: elenochka@inbox.com I will wait!

20.     As mensagens sempre começam com 'Hello stranger' or 'Hello lonely soul or Hello my new friend or Hello my new interlocutor';
Svetlana………… Hello my interlocutor Igor!) I'm glad to read your letter,……….
Marina……..Hi my new friend Igor I am very glad to receive………..
Tatyana…… Good evening my favourite,……………

21.     Elas costumam dizer que são 'lonely' sozinhas ao invés de dizer 'single' solteiras;
Não tenho exemplos desse ponto.

22.     Elas nunca mais te escrevem no site de encontros;
Correto, é assim que acontece.

23.     Depois de mandar enormes quantidades de e-mails para diferentes pessoas o perfil delas pode desaparecer de repente;
Nota: nunca vi isso acontecer no Brasil. Ao contrário todas continuam lá apesar do site ter sido comunicado;

24.     Geralmente são membros pagantes ou Gold mesmo em sites caros;
99% são pagantes GOLD.

25.     De alguma maneira elas tentam passar o e-mail de forma bem sutil no próprio perfil ou o fazem de forma discarada no primeiro e-mail;
Hi Igor.......write at me to marinkanosha at gmail dot com..................

26.     Nunca respondem às suas perguntas, ficando a impressão de que não leram as suas cartas;
Essa foi uma das razões pelas quais eu comecei a desconfiar de um padrão errado em todas elas.
Por exemplo: Mandei um poema e pedi que ela me dissesse se havia gostado. Resposta?
Ksenia.......... Hello my friend Igor!!! Today when I have come on the letter box with hope to see your letter of the answer, I was very glad that you have written to me. I am glad that you write to me. I think you are interested in me my stories about myself, as well as you. I think you burn with the desire to learn about me on much greater and want to get acquainted with me better. I as liked you on a photo. I want to tell about myself and also I want to learn more about you. I very much like to dance. At leisure after work I go to our theatre and there we do various representations. I shall consist in dancing group. We execute colourful dances......... NADA COM NADA...........

27.     Trocam o seu nome no e-mail, erro grosseiro mas acontece acreditem;
No meu caso, uma simplesmente se esqueceu de completar o meu nome nos espaços deixados para isso. Vejam:
Hello!_____.
I am madly happy to receive your letter. At me all is excellent, because I have you. I went today to the parents, they asked about you, as you business. They are very glad for me that I have found the love.
Now I with confidence can tell, that I wish to throw all and to be near to you. This unique my desire. I am ready to all and on all, only, to be near to my favourite person, with you. I would like to forget all shame and pride, and to rush on a meeting of the love. I simply do not learn myself, I was not such earlier. Then all seemed to me usual in this life, now it is filled by something new which is complex for describing, you and itself perfectly understand me.
_____, I do not understand why to you speak, that my address not correct.
To me it is not necessary neither a computer, nor phone. I want to you.
I, was not so is happy never. Yesterday, I thought of our attitudes and about our feelings that to you to become closer. I think, that during our dialogue, we send to such peak that will meet and to see each other. I think, that we are necessary the friend the friend we as two half of apple and these half should will meet. Connection of these half will be our meeting.
_____?I wait for your letter with impatience. I hope and wait.
Kiss, your Tatyana.

28.     Sempre dizem que os russos são alcólatras e não sabem como tartar uma mulher;
Natalya....... But on the other side our town is bad by population. Most of people are alchogolics and addicts. Drinking vodka is the purpose of a life. All of money they get are spent to alchogol.
Anna……… I have started to search to myself for the man, but all to me did not approach on that that, they drink much and……
Marina………One of the reasons why I am looking for a man on the internet - is the current state of Russia. Now Russia is a very difficult situation in finding loved one. Alcohol, tobacco and drugs made by the Russian men are not capable for the big and real love. All these factors have in recent years have affected the Russian men now difficult to find a man for the establishment of full relations and family.
Marinka……You know, that in Russia the majority of inhabitants depending on alcohol, this reason for me too very much influences.

29.     Nunca mantém a conversação e as cartas são como monólogos sobre elas e suas vidas diárias;
Hello Igor and how are you?
As for me I am doing fine these days.
I find our writing each other very exciting and I am happy to have new friend like you.
I still do not know what will happen from our correspondence but we will continue knowing each other better and will see.
Am I right? So what else I have not written about myself? I remember that I have not wrote you about my family yet. I am the only child in the family and I do not have brothers or sisters. I have mom and dad and they were very good parents for me and I love them very much. But I have not being living with them for long time already because after graduating the college I had to go to work here where I am now and they stayed in Kazan town. But when I have free time I try to visit and spend some time with them and they also visit me here rather often so we try to see each other when we have opportunity. But I am not alone here and I live together with my best friend who is like a sister for me. Her name is Mariya and we rent the apartment together. We met each other in college and come to this town together after graduating and since then were together all the time like sisters. She is also very close to my family because her parents are not alive and she does not have any family left and me and my family take her like our relative.
So it is breif story about my family. What about you? Tell me more about yourself? Do you have friends and what you like to do together? As for me I do not like to be alone and like to spend time with friends.
I wrote that I like different activities and I like to go camping with friends or just go to watch the movie.
But I cannot say that I have a lot of friends. I think that any person can have only few real and close friends who will help you and support you in any situation. Do you agree with me? What else you want to know about me? My favorite color is blue like sea or sky. I also like cooking and I can say that it is my hobby.
What is yours? I guess you have already understood that I am rather romantic person and I like all romantic things music, flowers, kisses or just holding the hands. I can say that I believe in God and I was raised as Christian. I think that the main faith must be inside of the people in their hearts and minds and not just in attending the curch because there are a lot of people who do everything only for themself and make a lot of bad things and than just go to the church to pray for forgiveness of the sins.
I think it is not right and they should have faith all the time and not only when they are in the church.
What do you think about it? Do you have faith and what is it? All right I asked you a lot of questions in this letter already and I think I should better stop here. If you are not comfortable with some questions you can just skip it, ok. I will let you go now and will wait for your next letter.
I also want to sorry for some delays in answering and writing letters.
You know that I have to go to the Library to read and to write letters
and it takes some time but I will try to write you as often as possible.
Sincere, your friend Marina.

30.     São geralmente cartas monótonas chatas e que não fazem muito sentido até que chega a hora do dinheiro!! Aí até o inglês melhora!!!!!;
Ver acima.

31.     O inglês é inconsistente. Uma carta pode ser escrita em excelente inglês e a próxima outra vez com tradutor;
Nunca tive essa experiência

32.     Tendem a repetir palavras, por exemplo: 'I wanted to tell to you that that, if we can to meet?'
Mariya……..and seriously concerns to the work, but at us with it friendly attitudes. I very much like my that work and I am proud that of that I ……

33.     Elas usam muito 'At me' a lot, por exemplo: 'At me it hurts';
Tatyana…….Dear as I spoke, earlier at me I have been deceived by the man here in my city which played with me it hurts and consequently At me I very seriously concern to a choice of men………….

34.     Em geral terminam as cartas com frases como: 'I shall wait with impatience your letter', “Anxiously will wait for your next letter”, “I with huge impatience shall wait for your letter” e por aí vai;
Essa é fácil:
Tatyana…….I with impatience wait for your letter and I shall think of you every minute.
I with impatience shall look to your reply. Sincerely, yours Tatyana.
Anna……………. I very strongly wait from you for the letter.
Annushka…….I will wait for your letter on the box with the big impatience!

35.     Já começam a te chamar de meu amor na primeira ou segunda semana de corresponência;
Anna……….My dear Lgor! I so am glad that you to
Good evening my favourite ................Tatyana
Hi, mine dear ..........Marina

36.     Usam muito 'my dear xxx', 'my love xxx', 'my angel xxx' (xxx – seu nome) em geral desde o começo;
Ver acima.

37.     Gastam metade da carta para falar dos seus sentimentos e como adorariam estar com você;
Tatyana…….I have run in the Internet-cafe during a dinner, whether to look the letter from you has come. I am glad, that I have found out your letter.
My darling, I very much wish to be near to you. I every second think only of you. My darling, I do not know the life without you. I wish to be only with you. Your words as if a warm downpour which gives a life to my feelings which lives only pending your letters. I so am glad, that you give me so much attention without which me to not live any more. I blossom, as a fine rose in your gentle hands, and I feel a flame of your passionate lips. My dear, you give pleasure to my soul, and you own this soul. Your words always find a way to my heart which wishes to touch you……..

38.     Quase nunca perguntam sobre seu estilo de vida, trabalho, filhos, renda, etc....
Bem comum em quase todas as cartas.

39.     Por outro lado sempre querem saber o seu endereço, seu telefone e pedem que mande muitas fotos suas;
Irina……..I wish to ask you what you have sent me the number of a cellular telephone. That I could call to you in the future. Well? I would want that you have sent me a full code of the country and a full phone number. That I could phone to you without any problems. I wait. I very much liked to communicate with you and to speak with you………
Alina …..I hope, that at you all is good. I will wait for your letter tomorrow. I hope, that I will receive answers to all questions and many your photos. Sincerely, Alina

40.     Nunca aparecem em uma webcam;
Nunca consegui esse feito!!!!

41.     Às vezes se enganam e mandam uma mesma carta duas vezes;
Acontece com freqüência.

42.     Outro engano comum é mandar um e-mail que era para outra pessoa;
Já recebi cartas para outros que nada tinham em comum comigo....

43.     Via de regra mandam fotos em todos os e-mails;
Sempre, todas elas!!!!!!!!!

44.     Algumas vezes trocam de e-mail ao longo da correspondência pois os provedores cancelam a conta devido a spam ou scam;
Nunca me aconteceu.................

45.     Podem desaparecer por um mês ou mais e reaparecer como se nada houvesse;
Não por tanto tempo, mas por uma semana é bem comum........

46.     Passarão o seu e-mail para outras golpistas e você começará a receber cartas de pessoas que desconhece;
Provavelmente, eu mesmo recebo cartas de mulheres para as quais nunca escrevi.

47.     Podem ser vulgares, dizer palavrões e mandar fotos eróticas ou mesmo nuas;
Nunca me aconteceu isso......

48.     Na grande maioria das vezes sempre dizem que escrevem de Lan Houses ou Internet Cafés;
Todas elas sem nenhuma exceção.
Marinka…..I wish to write to you, I can write only when I shall be free because I do not have computer. You will ask from where I write? My girlfriend has a computer, but sometimes it is not present the house or city then has found a way out. I shall write to you with internet-kafe. Probably it will not prevent to our dialogue?.........

49.     O custo da Internet para elas é sempre muito auto;
Duas ou três delas me disseram isso....

50.     Ganham muito pouco e repetidamente falam sobre sua pobre situação financeira;
Ksenia………In Russia it is the most hard for people to be employed on the speciality. Many with higher education work as handymen on construction. It speaks about that that in our country the higher education has no weight and if has that people are arranged only on protection. All this position upsets me and strongly confuses. In fact the person studied long time and has then gone to work as the simple worker on construction. I have low pay at the job. I think in your country was not present such! Now at us the majority of people go for work to Moscow and on the North, and in other regions of our country simply there are no workplaces with the worthy earned payment. Many people lower hands and start to become an inveterate drunkard on the sly, thus filling up numbers of alcoholics and the unemployed, unfortunate people. I think, that at you not so this……….

51.     Podem pedir que você mande dinheiro para que elas possam pagar a Internet ou o telefone e continuar a te escrever;
Só duas me pediram mas como não mandei... não escreveram mais.

52.     Podem pedir que você mande dinheiro para pagar contas médicas delas ou de parentes próximos que, de repente ficam muito doentes, sofrem um acidente, etc…
Favourite, I very much worry. I perfectly understand, that you wish to help me. But how you can help me? In fact you live on other doomsday. I am ready to live all time your letter. I came into computer shop, there to me have told, that the computer can be bought for 24000-28000 roubles. But it for me greater money. You me ïîíèìfåòå? I yet do not know, will cost how many to put phone of the house. I think it not so dearly. It is necessary to learn more in detail, in installation of the Internet of the house how many will manage. Tell to me please as you to me can help me?

53.     Se você disser que não mandará o dinheiro e que conhece este tipo de golpe elas jurarão que não são golpistas e continuarão a escrever;
Olhem como funciona.... As últimas três cartas antes de parar de escrever, depois que eu disse a ela que sabia que ela(e) era uma vigarista. Essa me pediu U$ 1300 para passagens e visto para se encontrar comigo.
Hello xxxxxxx!
I do not understand why you like to ruin to other people of a life???
I the real woman and now I am glad that we have not met.
I believe that you very rough person.
I the real woman who wished to find love, and now you have spoiled to me all my reputation.
Why you have made it? I have broken to you heart?
And how you think what was to me???? When I asked you the help to me to arrive to you.
I nearly have not made a mistake, have not arrived to you, and now I am glad that at us has developed so, that we have not met.
But it is a pity that you have spoiled to me my life.
If you do not trust me I invite you in the country and that you were convinced of it.
I shall wait for your message.
bye bye!
The invitation in force.

Hello xxxxxxx !
You want that I have proved that I real???
For what that you were convinced, what I exist and to have with me further the attitude?
I now have better learned you and I want only friendship with you, while what serious attitudes.
I live in republic Mari El, in settlement Ruem, it near to city Yoshkar-Ola.
My adress st. Mira 22, it is the private house, number of the house means number of an apartment.
I have houses the Internet and I write to you letters from the house if there is no Internet, I write to you letters with Internet-Caffee city Yoshkar-Ola.
I have written to you the address, I do not understand why you speak that I send mail from Moscow if I write to you from the house.
I have phone, but my network blocked all the international calls because they paid for me and because of it have disconnected me from it.
And local I can accept other. Here my number 89024366255.
my adress Russia, post code 424000, settlement Ruem, st. Mira, 22. Svetlana Rogova.
Data of the western union are identical mine to a residence, profile on my site I tried to remove the .
Now I practically do not visit it, to me wrote others man, but I did not answer them.
And has answered Igor because I searched for a consolation, instead of the love, love at me was, but dialogue was a little, you wrote recently very little.
I searched simply for the friend, instead of love.
I would send you with pleasure the identification cards, but my passport and the certificate of a birth lay in a passport office, I change them for the passport of the new sample.
I now look forward to hearing from you also your actions, inform me on that as you will make something. oK?
I shall wait for your letters, bye bye!

Dear xxxxxxxx!
I have written all of you in the last letter, what still it is necessary for you?
I do not understand, I have written you all as is, you can leave my life and to delete this black strip from my life.
I shall not write to you any more, I ask from you to clean my questionnaires in Scammers cites.
Ok?
I shall wait the answer!

54.     Com alguma prática, usando fragmentos de cartas recebidas use o Google e se surpreenderá com a quantidade de sites que relatam as mesmas cartas e as golpistas;
É só tentar e vocês vão se surpreender!!

55.     Pode ser que te telefonem mas o som sempre é péssimo, a voz distorcida e se você tiver um identificador de chamadas um número fajuto como 602-222-0000 é tudo que você conseguirá;
Aconteceu comigo exatamente assim.....

56.     Você verá que elas nunca tem telefone em casa;
Ksenia……….Can you imagine that most of the people do not have computers or phones? I am not an exception. Sure I even do not talk about mobile phones because some of the people even do not have television.
Marina…….My dear Lgor!!! Yes I have phone of the house but a line you are broken also not as cannot call me, and at me mum wishes to replace a phone number and when it is all will make I do not know, how it is all will make I to you I will write the new phone number, well?

57.     Ou vão ligar de um orelhão ou de um celular para o seu celular ou fixo;
Pode ser, não comprovei isso ainda......

58.     Pode ser que te dêem o endereço delas mas provavelmente qualquer coisa enviada vai chegar a um endereço falso;
Os endereços são sempre falsos ou se existem são de outra pessoa.
I live in republic Mari El, in settlement Ruem, it near to city Yoshkar-Ola. My adress st. Mira 22, Russia, post code 424000, it is the private house, number of the house means number of an apartment. I have phone, but my network blocked all the international calls because they paid for me and because of it have disconnected me from it.

59.     Se você pedir que elas mandem uma foto, por exemplo, segurando um cartaz com o seu nome, se a foto usada pelo golpista não for de nenhuma celebridade, depois de alguma exitação ele pagará à garota da foto para tirar a nova foto e lhe mandará o solicitado;
É só olhar aqui no site mesmo... está cheio disso. Nunca me ocorreu fazer isso mas é interessante. Pelo menos vai dar trabalho.

60.     A forma de comunicação preferida é por e-mail. Dificilmente você conseguirá que ela use por exemplo o MSN;
Eu só consegui uma vez, depois de dois meses de correspondência, por 5 minutos... Depois sumiu.

61.     A idéia é sempre vir visitar você. Caso diga que vai visitá-la primeiro lhe darão centenas de bons motivos para que você desista disso. Continuarão a insistir que o melhor é ela te visitar;
Apenas um exemplo sutil: Amandio I thought our meeting will be in more beautiful place. It will be fine if I to you shall arrive. I can take holiday on work. I very much would like to arrive to you on a visit. I never was outside Russia and I will be assured for me it is the best holiday especially with such the man as you. We would learn each other much better and could build our relations further. Well, so the darling Amandio how you look at it? But I yet was not in travel agency, therefore I do not know about what documents are necessary to arrive to Brazil. You speak, that the visa is necessary, but at me it is not present.

62.     Em último caso pode ser que aceitem se encontrar com você mas não na cidade delas. Provavelmente em Moscou ou São Petersburgo;
Pode ser.......Não tive essa experiência.

63.     Outra forma de pedir dinheiro diz respeito aos gastos com Vistos, Passaportes e Passagens. Provavelmente você seja contatado por uma agência de viagens que lhe mandará um invoice para a viagem da Sra. XXXXXX;
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

64.     Muitas vezes também dizem necessitar de dinheiro em caixa para comprovar junto ao consulado a capacidade de se manter durante a viagem; isso não existe;
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

65.     Em geral mandarão cópias escaneadas do passaporte e do visto de entrada no país;
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

66.     Outra possibilidade é a existência de um amigo(a) que pode fazer um depósito no seu cartão de crédito, de tal maneira que em seguida você possa mandar o dinheiro para ela via Western Union;
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

67.     Nesse caso insistirão em saber o limite do seu cartão de crédito;
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

68.     Preferem sempre usar A Western Union ao invés da MoneyGram;
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

69.     Eles geralmente pegam o dinheiro durante a troca de turno de seus cúmplices da Western Union
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

70.     Uma vez que você mande dinheiro eles continuarão pedindo mais com novas desculpas.
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

71.     Uma vez que não consigam tirar dinheiro de você, vão parar de escrever;
Nunca cheguei a esse ponto mas existem vários exemplos no site.

72.     Se você os chamar de vigaristas ou golpistas afirmando que já sabe que é uma fraude, dirão que você arruinou com a reputação delas, magoou, etc… e não escreverão mais.
Hello Amandio!
I do not understand why you like to ruin to other people of a life???
I the real woman and now I am glad that we have not met.
I believe that you very rough person.
I the real woman who wished to find love, and now you have spoiled to me all my reputation.
Why you have made it? I have broken to you heart?
And how you think what was to me???? When I asked you the help to me to arrive to you.
I nearly have not made a mistake, have not arrived to you, and now I am glad that at us has developed so, that we have not met.
But it is a pity that you have spoiled to me my life.
If you do not trust me I invite you in the country and that you were convinced of it.
I shall wait for your message.
bye bye!
The invitation in force.

Finalmente algumas observações pessoais.
Se tudo o que aqui foi colocado fez você pensar melhor sobre seus contatos na Internet, já fico satisfeito.
Não tenho nada contra as russas e muitos casos acontecem na Europa, África,US e América Latina para não dizer no mundo todo.
No meu caso pessoal começou com uma russa e não parou mais.
Não se envolva de cara.... se na vida real já é difícil, que posso dizer na Internet?
Fique atento e denuncie sempre!!!!!!!!!! Existem muitas formas de fazer isso.
Segue o que foi colocado para aquela que realmente me enganou. Não é necessário dizer que ela sumiu da minha vida.
Como aparentemente ninguém toma uma atitude, ela e outras (a maioria) continuam nos sites de relacionamento.

MY 'LOVE' TATYANA,
WHY?
Why did you do this to me?


First time in the Internet dating business?
ok!!!!

EVIDENCE 1
Take a look!!!!
Why are you still at the Combine Site? Is this the love you feel for me?
Look at the last access!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Today!!!!!! Still looking for your great love?
You can not write to me but you can go into this site isn't it?
So now the Internet cafe opens on weekends?
You did foolish me. You played with my feelings. This is very awesome.
I will try to manage the harm you made to me. You have no idea of what you did girl.
How could I be so stupid?
Easy way to hook honest men!!!!!
Hope you never pass through such a decieve.
Ok my dear, here goes your fool, stupid, idiot love ..... I hope you enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EVIDENCE 2
Same letter sent twice in different days. Did you make a mistake baby???????
Never answered one single question I made.
Don't understand English? We also don't speak Spanish in Brasil!!!

EVIDENCE 3
YOUR ADDRESS

As I could not post your gift I called the Russian Authorities at Volshk.
Their answer:

Dear Dr. Amandio Teixeira,
Concerning the address you are looking for,
Country: Russia City: Volzhsk Street: Zarubina 44-1 Index: 424003
there is probably a mistake.
This address is not located in Volshk.
The right address is:
Zarubina st., Yoshkar-Ola, 424003, the Republic of Mari El, Russia
If you want, we may find who lives at number 44.
We hope this information will help you.
Regards,
Dmitri Kiselev
Руководителя УФНС России
424000 г. Йошкар-Ола,
Ул. Пушкина, 30
Russia

Some more background on your data:
Почтовый индекс     -     425073
Наименование объекта федеральной почтовой связи     -     Кужмара

№     Индекс     Название объекта     Тип объекта     Адрес     Старый индекс
1     424003     Йошкар-Ола 3
Отделение почтовой связи     Йошкар-Ола, Марий Эл респ.     424003


EVIDENCE 4
Dr Amandio,
Please read this carefully,
Internet Dating Alert From The United States Embassy In Moscow!
The following was taken from the web site of the United States Embassy in Moscow. It deals with Internet dating fraud and reinforces what we have been advising our staff of for years. This is just another reason why you should only use legitimate, United States based, Foreign Introduction services that are well versed with Foreign dating issues.
The only thing we would add to this is that it is not only Russian women or organizations that engage in such fraud, use caution with whomever you are dealing with when on-line, even within the United States!


EVIDENCE 5
Russian Internet Dating Scams black lists points that Tatyana Lyubimova is already in many scammers databases.

By the way, take a look.
http://www.perfspot..9BF241482
One more lie?
http://www.europe-d..000000449
Another lie?
Where is your mad love, your heart, your soul?????? Still preying a honest man?
Be happy, .... if you can.
Don't ever write to me again or I will make things difficult for you.
Like this:
http://www.russian-scam.org/
If you are not convinced yet, take a look where you went into.
Did you forget I've worked for the US Government? I have located you.
Because of the beautiful moments of ilusion you gave me,
I don´t know yet if I will send the information about you to the russian authorities.
Her name: fake
address: fake
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If I don't get a beautiful, convincing, lovely explanation from you, then.......
Ok, let's make it difficult to you:

Your data will be sent to:

Руководителя УФНС России
424000 г. Йошкар-Ола,
Ул. Пушкина, 30
Russia

Руководителя УФНС России
420094 г. Казань,
Ул. Бондаренко, 3
Russia

FBI:
http://www.ic3.gov/

Адрес посольства:
121069, Москва, ул. Большая Никитская, 54
Тел: (7 495) 363-03-66
Факс: (7 495) 363-03-67
e-mail: brasrus@brasemb.ru
Посольство работает с понедельника по пятницу с 10:00 до 18:00

Russian Embassy in Brazil
ADDRESS: Avenida das Nações, SES
Q.801, Lote A, Brasilia-DF
E-MAIL: emb@embrus.brte.com.br

So darling, the prey turned out to be hunting now isn't it?
Enjoy the letter and think of me. As you said, ......thinking of me all the time......, you don't sleep anyway.
Yours forever,
Me.

2008-10-25, 08:49:02
Amandio from Rio De Janeiro, Brazil  
Would you like to have the English version on this comment?
Let me know.
2008-10-25, 16:28:31
OJAS from United States  
Amandio,
English speakers can translate with a site like http://translate.go..te_t#pt|en
No need for you to translate into English, after your good deal of research time. I was even considering making this tread of yours mainly a Portuguese, instead of starting a new thread. You might have seen Spanish speakers took over an existing thread, and built it to over 100 pages. One possibility is we might post in one of the 2 languages, unless someone requests specific passage translation, you may not need to post in 2 languages.
Obrigado :-)
2008-10-25, 16:57:59   (updated: 2008-10-25, 17:01:10)
Amandio from Rio De Janeiro, Brazil  
Ojas,
I don't think Spanish and Portuguese will work in a same thread. It is not so directly translated from one to the other and if we or they use slang, then it will not work at all.
Remember the VÉIA????
I rather prefer to have a portuguese one if you agree with the idea.
One thing that I don´t like here (maybe because I don't know how to do) is the need to be jumping from one link to another. A few jumps and you get lost.
Another problem as far as I see is the search engine. You gave me some tips about it but today I faced a new problem. I posted a new one and I found her somewhere else. Different photos, diferent names and e-mails but the same person posted as another scammer. You will see it. There must be a way to filter this info.....
I know a software which is capable to find the degree of similarity among photos, but I am sure it would not work with the kind of photos we get here. And the bad guys already know it. If not why would they waste time 'working' in these photos. You know what I am talking about.
By the way, did you like the check list and real examples above?
Ok, lets think about the idea de um ramo português dentro do site.
Thanks my friend.
2008-10-25, 18:25:33   (updated: 2008-10-25, 18:27:10)
Amandio from Rio De Janeiro, Brazil  
Com base na tabela lista acima e tomando como amostra um conjunto de 30 scammers que venho acompanhando, elaborei o gráfico abaixo.
Se considerarmos que 70% é um nível razoável de confiabilidade, você pode imediatamente verificar quais os pontos mais frequentes encontrados no perfil de um golpe.
Sugiro que se considerem os valores acima de 50% como um sinal de alerta.
Lembro que a amostra é muito pequena e os dados só se baseiam na minha experiência pessoal. Dessa forma pode variar de pessoa para pessoa.
Entretanto, não perde o seu valor ilustrativo no intuito de ajudar a identificar um golpe acontecido ou por acontecer.


Keywords:
2008-10-25, 21:33:05   (updated: 2008-10-25, 21:43:20)
OJAS from United States  
Amandio,
I meant Spanish thread as a comparison only, not that we mix up Portuguese in that. Yes, it is better to have a dedicated thread for Portuguese readers, who feel that will be their most comfortable language.

Sometime next week, I will plan on sending some initial suggestions.

As for links, I always right-click, and open in a new tab. So from the main window, I have all related tabs, I close, when I am done with it.

If you were asking about ways of link # determination for a post, I just posted this supplement http://www.delphifa..=16#113962
2008-10-26, 19:06:54
OJAS from United States  
@newbies, please follow Amandio's example while posting in non-English
When posting scammer e-mails, they should be the original copy / paste. Translated versions are not good for googling, only the original e-mails will help new guys to find the scammer here.
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