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Name: Marina


Email: marihakissa@rambler.ru


Address:
Cheboksary, Russia


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Com base no que publiquei em:
http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/russian_marriage_scams/f3879.shtml
Estou cada vez mais seguro de que com apenas dez respostas afirmativas a qualquer um dos 72 itens apresentados, podemos chegar à conclusão de que se trata de um scammer.

A decisão de continuar escrevendo para obter mais informação é absolutamente individual.

No meu caso, acredito que quanto antes estas figuras estiverem fora de circulação ou, pelo menos divulgadas no maior número de sites possível, mais difícil fica a vida delas.
Por outro lado, mais rápido nos livramos de futuros problemas e podemos continuar a procurar uma pessoa séria.

Uma ressalva – Se você teve prejuízos financeiros e morais e deseja reunir o maior número de dados possível para uma eventual ação contra o scammer, sugiro que, mesmo sabendo com quem lida, continue escrevendo e colhendo informação, até que possa provar a tentativa de golpe. Apenas se defenda. Se não sabe como, peça ajuda.

Ainda com relação ao link anterior, passei a usar uma forma de abordagem que acelera o processo.

Descubra o IP de onde ela lhe escreve;
Use o Whois para verificar a quem pertence o domínio
Investigue as diversas listas que existem na Internet sobre scammers, falsos IP´s, etc..;
Cheque se ela é de onde diz que é;
Depois de algumas cartas (só você saberá o momento), peça o telefone dela, o endereço, o nome completo;
Mande uma série de perguntas bem específicas sobre ela;
Diga a ela que está indo à Rússia a negócios e quer visitá-la;
Perceba se ela simplesmente ignora tudo isso e continua te escrevendo;

Se depois disso tudo e mais a lista de 72 pontos você não tiver mais dúvidas, faça um último teste: É inacreditável!! Diga que desconfia que ela não é o que diz e que ela explique o porque da informação errada. Sabe o que acontece? Te escreve como se não houvesse lido a sua carta. Publique.
É scammer!!
Sorte.
Dito isto, Vamos à seguinte:

Marina aka Mariha
marihakissa@rambler.ru
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.26.6) UNREG
Received:unknown host (unknown [91.144.161.155])
Yoshkar Ola, Russia

Mando um aviso:

[quote]Hi my dear Marina,
I must tell you that I really love your way to talk about you and your life.
I admire people that yet get hungry when awesome facts occur.
I do think you are very much like me.
I need to tell you one thing that to me is very important.
I feel something very strong about you. I don´t know what it is yet, although I can imagine where this will lead me (or us).

So, before things go deeper I need to ask you just one thing:
I am not a newbie in computers and I know quite a lot how to protect me and how to find if the person I am talking about is for real or just one more scammer.
I really hope you don't see this as an offence at all.
The problem is that your e-mails don´t show me the same information that I get from you.
You said you are from Cheboksary. OK.
What I see from you?

Marina aka Mariha
marihakissa@rambler.ru
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.26.6) UNREG
Received:unknown host (unknown [91.144.161.155])
Yoshkar Ola, Russia

If you are not playing with me I am sure you can explain to me why you are using a fake IP.
You will not have problems to give me your full address and phone number. Will you?
If you are a scammer, don't loose our time my dear....
I shall wait your convincing answer ok?
Igor[/quote]


A resposta dela:


[quote]De: Marina
Para: Igor
Assunto: Hello!

Hello dear Igor!!!
How are you?
How is the weather there now?
Hope everything is all right. The weather is getting coldly here and autumn is on its way.
I have heard that a lot of people in other countries think that the weather is cold all the time here in Russia.
I can say that it is not right. We have very cold weather only in winters
and the temperature falls up to -40 degrees Celsius sometimes but our summers are rather warm
and similar to summers in other places I guess. I like summertime and I like sun and summer nature.
What about you Igor? By the way I would like the poem.
I like traditional Russian food. As for me I am rather fine here, especially after reading your words.
Mariya is doing fine as well and she is saying great hello to you.
You know that I am always excited to read your letters and I miss your words when I can't do it.
I think about you very often and wait for every moment when I can read your words or write some to you.
I know that there are many thousands kilometers between us and I feel sad when I think about this distance.
But as you know I want to hope that any barrier can be broken when it comes to real
and sincere relationship between man and woman. What do you think?
I have the feeling that I know you for ages already. Do you have it as well?
I see that my feelings to you become stronger with each day and I really do not want to lose you now.
I hope that you will not quit writing me and will always be sincere with me. Can you promise it?
I promise that I always will. Do you think sometimes how it would be if we met and saw each other in reality?
It would be so wonderful I think.
You would be able to invite me on the great evening dinner or just to walk.
Imagine we would be able to touch, to hold each other arms, to enjoy the time we spend together,
just watch movies, cook together, listen to music, go for a walk and etc. Can you imagine it Igor?
It is a pity that it is only dreams for now. But I am really excited and happy that I have met you.
I am very glad that our paths have crossed and there must be a very good reason that out of all the people in this world we have met each other.
What do you think? For now I am letting you go but I will be patiently awaiting you next letter as they mean so much to me.
So take care of your self and always remember that I think about you and wish that you were here.
Yours Marina.[/quote]


Desapareceu!!!!
Alguma dúvida???
Então cuidado com essa também.


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2008-10-27, 12:20:52   (updated: )
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2008-10-27, 12:20:52   (updated: )
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2008-10-28, 09:08:14
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-10-29, 10:44:27
anonymous from Brazil  
NÃO SEJA MAIS UM BRASILEIRO VÍTIMA DO GOLPE DO NAMORO NA INTERNET.
NÃO MANDE DINHEIRO!!! DENUNCIE!!!!!!
2008-10-30, 13:14:51
Amandio from Rio De Janeiro, Brazil  
2008-11-05, 20:57:55
anonymous from United States  
Hello!!!

What is your name? How are you there?

Hope everything is all right and you are doing fine as well.

I am glad to hear from you again and I hope to find out more about you with each letter,

about your life there, about your usual days and what you like to do.

I think that your life there where are you different then the life here.

So I am always interested in hearing from you.

I also hope that our correspondence will be honest and sincere.

You know that I am open-hearted and honest person.

I do not like lie or dishonesty and I cannot take when somebody use me or play with my feelings.

You also can be sure that I will always be honest and sincere with you.

As you know I am a beginner in using this stuff and I am curious what will happen and what to wait from it.

I was never even able to imagine that I will write to someone from another country.

I wrote that my relationship ended more than a year ago and I have not dated anyone since then.

If you interested I can write you more about it.

I felt in love with my ex and I thought that I was happy with him.

Everything was fine in the beginning and I made plans for our future together.

But then I found out that he cheated on me with another women and it was even not one time.

It broke my heart so bad and I am still sad when I remember that time.

But life is going on and I want to believe in love again.

I am not young already and I want to settle down with the right person,

to love and to be loved and to find the man who will be able to spend the rest of the life with me.

But being busy I do not have time for dates here and I am also afraid to be hurt again.

So I decided to try this and I hope this experience will be good for me.

I have never been out of my country and I also have never thought about movement from my country.

But who knows, everything can happen.

I think if I find the right man I will be able to go to him and be with him anywhere.

So what about your situation? Can you tell me about your life? But if you do not want I will understand.

You know that I live in small town or you can call it village that is very far from big cities like Moscow or other cities you have heard.

Progress here is stopped some time ago. Can you imagine that most of the people do not have computers or phones?

I am not an exception. Sure I even do not talk about mobile phones because some of the people even do not have television.

But there are couple of computers in our central Library and they allow people to use it.

They also installed pay Internet service and it allow me to write you.

I guess you even cannot put yourself in my place but we got used to our way of living.

I graduated college in Kazan town 5 year ago and since then have been working as teacher in school here in Cheboksary.

If you do not know I am the teacher of Russian language.

My job is not paid very well but I like it because I work with the children and I like children very much.

I also studied English in college but it was quite long time ago.

I will try to be better in it but I want to sorry for mistakes I can make in letters, ok.

My work takes a lot of time and I do not have a lot of free time but when I have it I try to find the opportunity and go on the nature.

I wrote that we have wonderful nature here with lots of woods, lakes and rivers and I like go camping or fishing or just picnic with my friends.

I also can say that I am into sport. I like skating, skiing, swimming, aerobics and I go to fitness hall two times a week to keep my shape toned.

When I do not have opportunity for active rest I can read some book, to watch movie or just listen to music.

I like easy listening music but I can listen to any. I am rather romantic person and I like to watch or read romantic stories and comedies.

You see that I wrote you a lot already. I do not want you to be tired after reading my letter so I think

I will try to send you other photo with this letter and will be finishing it here.

If you have questions you can always ask me and I will answer them.

So I am letting you go and will wait for your next letter. I am waiting to hearing from you soon.

Your friend Marina.
Hello Tye and how are you?

As for me I am doing fine these days.

I find our writing each other very exciting and I am happy to have new friend like you.

I still do not know what will happen from our correspondence but we will continue knowing each other better and will see.

Am I right? So what else I have not written about myself?

I remember that I have not wrote you about my family yet.

I am the only child in the family and I do not have brothers or sisters.

I have mom and dad and they were very good parents for me and I love them very much.

But I have not being living with them for long time already because after graduating the college

I had to go to work here where I am now and they stayed in Kazan town.

But when I have free time I try to visit and spend some time with them

and they also visit me here rather often so we try to see each other when we have opportunity.

But I am not alone here and I live together with my best friend who is like a sister for me.

Her name is Mariya and we rent the apartment together.

We met each other in college and come to this town together after graduating and since then were together

all the time like sisters. She is also very close to my family because her parents

are not alive and she does not have any family left and me and my family take her like our relative.

So it is breif story about my family. What about you? Tell me more about yourself?

Do you have friends and what you like to do together?

As for me I do not like to be alone and like to spend time with friends.

I wrote that I like different activities and I like to go camping with friends or just go to watch the movie.

But I cannot say that I have a lot of friends.

I think that any person can have only few real and close friends who will help you and support you in any situation.

Do you agree with me? What else you want to know about me? My favorite color is blue like sea or sky.

I also like cooking and I can say that it is my hobby.

What is yours? I guess you have already understood that

I am rather romantic person and I like all romantic things music, flowers, kisses or just holding the hands.

I can say that I believe in God and I was raised as Christian.

I think that the main faith must be inside of the people in their hearts

and minds and not just in attending the curch because there are a lot of people who do everything only for themself

and make a lot of bad things and than just go to the church to pray for forgiveness of the sins.

I think it is not right and they should have faith all the time and not only when they are in the church.

What do you think about it? Do you have faith and what is it?

All right I asked you a lot of questions in this letter already and I think I should better stop here.

If you are not comfortable with some questions you can just skip it, ok.

I will let you go now and will wait for your next letter.

I also want to sorry for some delays in answering and writing letters.

You know that I have to go to the Library to read and to write letters

and it takes some time but I will try to write you as often as possible.

Sincere, your friend Marina.



Hello love Tye!!!

How is everything there?

As for me I can think of nothing else except you.

I miss you so much and it is very hard for me to be far away from you as you know.

I want to take away these kilometers we have between each other and I hope you want the same.

I often think how our first meeting would be.

Only our meeting holds the future for us and I am sure that everything will be fine between us

and we will be happy together. So as I wrote I went to the consulate to check what it will take to get me to you.

It is not so much difficult as I thought at the beginning.

I will need to fill some papers here and then get foreign passport and visa to come to you.

There are several visas to enter your country but the visa I can get in easiest way is a tourist visa

and I was told that I will be able to get it without any problems.

It just will take some time and I need to pick up and fill a lot of documents but I will do everything that depends on me.

But I have only one problem that upsets me very much.

It is not convenient for me to ask you for help but I do not have choice

and I have to hope only on your understanding.

You know I need to pay for doing all paperwork and getting visa and passport

and you know that I get paid not enough to pay for it.

My economy here is very little compare to yours and this payment more than my months salary.

I want to come to you more than anything you know but I will not be able to do it without your help.

I do not want to complain but I will not be able to go through breaking my heart again and I am scared that

I can lose you if we will not meet. Can you put yourself in my position?

I do not know whom I can ask for help except you.

You know that I am always honest and sincere with you

and I hope that you will understand me and will help me to do this serious for both of us step.

I have filled some papers already when I was to the travel agency and they made a file for me.

I have already paid 2300 rubles near 50 euro as consular duties and that were all savings I had.

But the main cost is still should be paid. As soon as I pay the rest they will continue my visa process.

They gave me the prices for paperwork and I will let you know them. The visa costs 100 euro

and I also need to pay near 100 euro for documents for getting foreign passport, 60 euro for tests

and near 30 euro for questionnaire and other expenses I may have. So I need near 300 euro to cover all expenses.

You know that I do not have such sum because it is almost my two months salary and I do not know any way

I can find it here. So I can hope only on your help. Will you help me dear Tye?

I have also thought about the ways you can get the money to me.

I do not have bank account because we just do not use it here but

I found out that there is the simple way of sending the money without the account called Western Union.

Have you heard of it? They said that it is all over the world.

There are also Western Union offices here in towns near me.

I went there and they told me that you should have only my full name to send the money but you should check that there were no mistakes when you send it.

I am not sure if you have this information so I am writing it again.

My full name is Marina Larionova and my address is Russia, Cheboksary, Sovetskaya street 4, apt 8.

I will need Transfer Control number to get the money.

You will get it when you send the money.

I will also need your full name and address exactly as you will write in the receipt when you send the money and name of the town you send the money from.

After you send the money you should send all these information to me or better send me the copy or scan of the receipt.

As I wrote I have filled some papers already and if we want to make it happen soon I need to pay the money during the week.

So Tye, please try to send it as soon as possible.

I really hope that you will understand me and my situation.

I want to see you very much but I will not be able to do it without your help just because I don't have such money.

I am sorry again for asking for your help.

I will understand if you do not want to help me but it will hurt me that I will not be able to meet you.

I trust you dear with all my heart and I am giving all my life in your hands now.

I imagine that we can meet really soon and I have tears on my eyes.

I will impatiently wait for the day when we are together and I wish I could speed up the time to the day when

I come to you. I love you so much and cannot wait to get the reply from you.

With love Marina.






 

 

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