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Name: Gallina P
Address: Gives her address as a village just out of Sumy, Ukraine
Hurinovka House 33
Other Comments: Met her in Ukraine through UADREAMS agency. Writes about having a future together and will travel to meet with me. After I returned home she sent an email reminding me that she needed money for English lessons. After sending her some, she didn't reply. Wrote to her at the agency and she denies asking for money (against agency policy), and states there is no future now as I am not as she imagined!
Her full name Gallina Petrenko
In her profile Gallina seeks a partner, Age range of man: 23-60
I regard this as a scam sign. A single sign means nothing more than a wake-up call! I would think Heather married a much older Paul McCarteney, give Gallina the benefit of doubt, and call it strike 1.
Her e-mail user name gallinapet. This sounds more like a scam user name, not her REAL e-mail addy, which she would use for serious purposes. Again, I would keep an open mind, call it strike 2.
(@Fred, I cannot find a link to your article with more examples of suspicious screen / user names. Please repost here. Thx)
She uses Russian mail domain, acceptable. But If she used domains outside the FSU, it would have been strike 3. Or, if her IP traces to outside Ukraine, she concealed her IP, etc.
For most Americans 3 strikes, and you are out. I will still try to keep an open mind, shift the burden of proof, that so n'so is NOT a scammer, instead of myself requiring to prove that she is.
Any fourth strike, I reach my conclusion to preserve my sanity (and wallet)
At the bottom of Gallina's profile, is a hint
Do you notice any mistakes in our grammar on this page?
The Bat! is a shareware e-mail client for the Microsoft Windows operating system, developed by RitLabs, a company based in Chişinău, Moldova.
A number of Internet service providers, sites and organisations claim that The Bat! is a spamming tool and, on that basis, block messages containing 'The Bat!' in an x-mailer header.
Many spam messages have the X-Mailer header field set to The Bat!, but this is because it is one of the default settings in the Advanced Mass Sender program, which is frequently used for sending spam mail.
Some ISPs set traffic filters that block messages containing 'X-Mailer: The Bat!'. This forces legitimate users to configure The Bat! to not include X-Mailer field into the messages that they send.
Programs such as SpamAssassin can detect many instances of forged 'X-Mailer: The Bat!' headers by looking at other parts of the message, for example HTML body, message-id, charset and boundary information.
You see The Bat in the Header? That should ring a bell. It is a scammail.
In some Headers you'll find X-Mailer Voyager. Voyager is The Bat for mobile internet (laptops, notebooks or cellphones)
Let me add to Dirk's comment on The Bat!, Voyager, two more ... Becky is not that much favored by scammers, they occasionally try it. A more recent one pointed out by our good mate Steve from down under, is CommuniGate Pro http://google.com/s..te+Pro%22
CommuniGate Pro is used by scammers to forge the Headers. One of its features is: creating, removing and updating of user account information. Maybe, they even create their fake phonecalls by using this software.
I'm off to bed now. It's 03.40 here. The sun rises soon. Later.
OJAS from United States
Thanks Dirk. You are 7 hours ahead of delphi, We are all on Vicoz' side, time zone is irrelevant!
Dobroye nochi! :-)
Vicoz from Australia
More good info...Thanks
One lady that I was writing to, claims that she was using computer at work, where she is manager of the office in Lugansk! This one had the Bat in header!
Would that constitute legitimate use of the Bat? For work purpose?
Anyway, she's gone cold on me cause I asked too many questions...LOL...
Maybe she was legitimate and searching for a partner...She didn't fall in love with me, BUT didn't answer questions either. Earlier parts of email contain brief comment of what I wrote about...The rest sounded more like a daily diary!
Another is from Belarus...In her profile she wrote from Postavi...In reply to addy request, she claims Shojniki...Her email header reports Gomel.....When I asked for confirming photo, replied 'I not the man :-))... I not the swindler :-)))' BUT NO PHOTO and doesn't reply to questions...Also found her profile description on other sites, belonging to other women....Possible scammer???...I think so!!!.....
I think I'm learning...LOL...
Neither of these 2 ladies come up on pic searches, email addy etc......
But you guys are scaring me...I'm running out of agencies to find that BELOVED...LOL...
OJAS...All good oil you send me.....The gears keep turning over and the eyes are cranked into open position...Good stuff.....Though I think I will need glasses soon with all this computer reading...LOL....
Also, I wrote to agencyscams site http://agencyscams...dlist.html you mentioned earlier...'Jims' list....And asked that he re-list Uadreams in the black list! Brief history...Confidential Connections became Ualadys (Both in his Black list)...Later split as Ualadys and Uadreams.....They parallel each other in operation modes...Translation fees and women NOT there when you arrange to visit them...Or Gold dig and scam when you do meet with them....Hmmmm...A Lose Lose situation for me...A WIN WIN for them....LOL...
Wanwan...Thanks for the welcome...I'm learning much too, though I feel like the novice in the Council of Elders.....And how did you know I ride a motorcycle???...LOL....
Doc.....What more can I say?....THANKS!!!
Back to more reading.....On the road to enlightenment.....
Hi OJAS, wanwan and all the crew,
Just want to say I'm getting new insights every time I come onto this site...
ALL you guys do a great service, devoting time, energy and resources to help others...
How different is that to the PARASITE SCAMMERS we are dealing with in our posts?
I commend you all and feel humbled by the generosity you have all shown ME...A stranger to you in real life, yet found connection with you in common purpose...
Hey, is this the time to wave your national flag as a patriotic gesture or something...LOL...
Great to have everyones support...THANKS
Hey OJAS...Is there a space here to write about agencies?
This UADREAMS site has just offered to pay me a few dollars, in return to take Gallina off the sites I had her posted!!! They ignore the scum er... scam situation they propagate!
I gave them a polite NO!
I tune into the site and their webcam occasionally and guess who I saw...Yep! Gallina and another guy were meeting in the Sumy office...Another lamb to the slaughter!!!
With no conscience, they just don't stop!!!
Anyway, I remember reading on Jims site http://agencyscams...list.html, about the history of this agency, which is what I reported in the previous post.... So heres the irony... Both these agencies, UADREAMS and UALADYS, are owned by USA companies!!!!!
A guy once told me a Jewish word that I think fits... Guneff (Not sure if thats how its spelled) But basically its a thief that comes in via your back door... NOT a stranger, someone known to you!!!
I t would be great to detail some of this stuff so newbies as I am, can benefit from knowing how these scum... er... scam agencies operate...
Just a thought....
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands
The classic agency scam operation:
They get guys' email addresses from places unknown and send them profiles.
This is not the worst thing in the world, but this is how unreputable agencies operate.
They advertsise their girls on other sites.
Then, when they talk to a guy for a few letters, they pop the question.
The girls ask the guys to use x-agency.
Again, this is not the worst thing in the world, but this is exactly how unreputable agencies operate.
They trick the guy into using their agency.
And when a girl asks you to use a certain agency, there is something wrong.
Why would a girl care which agency you used?
She wouldn't. Only if she had some relationship with the agency.
OR...if the agency were writing the letters, not the girl.
The girls are telling the guys that they have run out of money on their account at x-agency and ask the guy to pay for the membership. This is classic scam style.
When you submit a new scammer / agency, the Admin reviews it (usually by the following weekend) approves, releases for others to contribute. He will notify you by e-mail when it will become visible for others.
You don't need to feel like a stranger in our lives, you are an active participant in our efforts. Whether by asking questions, or by contributing your research, you are alerting the next would-be victim. We are quite happy to have you on board. As for the flags, the more the better. Alex was supposed to be from Holland. We know Dirk IS from Holland. One never showed his flag, the other always does!!
Clearly, scammers are prowling anti-scam sites like delphi, when their business hurts, so they could improve their tactics. When they see many flags (including Russian! LOL!) it bothers them. In your case UADreams is following the developments. It bothers them seeing we are discussing about reporting them to the prosecutor general, ministry of interior, the president, the prime minister, etc.
They would rather spend some hush-money, to buy your silence, convince you to withdraw your report, and move on to their next victim(s) and recoup the amount. It takes them considerable efforts to recruit and train a new substitue girl, but they think it is cheaper to bribe you!
I commend your decision, mate, to stick to your principles.
A few months ago, my friend sent a scammer girl (yes, it is a she) an e-mail saying what a disgrace she is to innocent Russian girls, who genuinely have aspirations to seek overseas partners. It was strongly worded in Russian. Her response? ... She took him for a bigger Boris, offered to give free lessons on how to scam foreigners, and free access to Russian pornography sites. The response I composed for him cannot be repeated here, as it might offend decent Russians who visit this site.
Just to add another variation to Dirk's post. Flegentova is a Yoshkar-Ola Boris http://www.delphifa..2242.shtml Money was sent by a victim to a ''travel agency'' in Ukraine.