222 EAST 7TH STREET 3RD FL
NEW YORK, NY 10009
Other Comments: BACKGROUND
From what I researched through http://agencyscams.com/index.html, the original company was Confidential Connections.com. Later it changed (names, owners???) and became UALADYS.COM. Around the start of 2008, this company split in a melodramatic feud between supposed owners in Ukraine! It became 2 identities, Ualadys.com and Uadreams.com.
You will see from the above addresses, the parent company is in USA.
Essentially, these companies continue to operate in a similar fashion.
Clients, either find the site OR are enticed to join the site by ladies (as I was from Ukrainedate.com!) and then you begin writing to ladies in their gallery.
ALL letters are translated, at a cost TO YOU, regardless if the lady speaks YOUR language! Services for the ladies are FREE!
You cannot have personal contact details or be in direct contact with ladies, apart from through the agency!
You pay for letters, photos and videos and they try to get you to send gifts as well, which they supply from their SHOP on the internet site, at 3 times the cost you can buy over the counter!
On the surface, one can feel protected and ensured that the ladies exist! After all, its through an agency!!!
In brief, I visited ladies in 2008 and 2009, via these 2 agencies.
Having written to ladies from both agencies at various cities around Ukraine, I thought that my chances of connecting with at least ONE would be assured!
The agency encourages men to buy their TOUR packages, which gives YOU accommodation, introduction and translation with the girls you nominate...All at considerable costs!!!
The girls put they search for (their age) to 55 or 60 year old men in their profiles, when they are in their 20's??? As an 'older' guy, having YOUNG girls write to me, claiming that I was what they were after as a partner, and age makes NO difference, is quite seductive and the rouse they use, ensuring you write and eventually visit!
This is when things started to go bad! 2 weeks before my departure in 2008, and flight, visa and package are arranged and PAID, I received letters from ladies. SUDDENLY, they found work, in another part of Ukraine, another country...They are finishing their study, exams, looking for work, they are visiting sick, dying or a family member JUST died, or their family member just went to hospital and they need to be by their side 24/7!!! or they are opening their business.....The list continues, and YES, it ALL happened to me in these 2 trips! And yes, I was going to Ukraine to meet...WHO??? So I went, as canceling incurs fees as well!!!
Then if you do meet with a lady you wrote to, then they take you shopping!...for clothes, perfumes etc Or they take you to expensive restaurants...Even if they can speak English, as with my case, they are not allowed to by the agency, who inserts a translator, so the agency makes a profit from that as well!!! And if you go to a restaurant, of course you pay for the translators lunch/dinner as well!!!
This is all 'nicely' written for the unsuspecting male clients in the agencies advert, which also includes spiels about age difference! So the agency can claim that its 'clearly written', both in the internet site adverts, and the agreement you sign BEFORE you meet with ladies...Then the agency will say...Why did you do agree?...
Also another reality for me was that when I met these girls, mostly, they did NOT know anything about me, though I had written to them for months before visiting!!!
Then there are the more adept ones that can lead you to believe there is a future, and milk you for all they can...in a scammer style.....Some will openly ask for money, others allow you to offer, then they put their hands in both your pockets...You will go home with empty hearts and pockets!
If you read the Gallina P episode on this site, it will give you an insight to what I experienced on my last visit. She is typical of the lady I met through this agency, and decided enough was enough! She is listed a s a scammer for good reason!
NOW, I will highlight this episode from the discussions I have had with the agency! They have essentially 'whitewashed' the situation, and now offer me some of the money I gave to this lady (Gallina P) so that I will remove my postings of her!!!
I will post my letters to the agency and their replies of how they deal with a 'scam' issue, and then claim they have a GOOD reputation!
I hope it will enlighten you and save you money and emotions!
So in this, I hope you will learn about these agencies through my experience!
UPDATE: They have started their own antiscam site. (russian-scammers.com). Sorry, agncies shouldn't be doing this.
UPDATE - I got a letter from a Russian girl telling me about her experience with this agency. She joined and got a letter from the agency. The letter had no info about her login or password. She had NO access to her profile. Once, she saw herself on the site (talking with someone or something) but it was NOT her. She had NO access to her profile. Another time, she was sitting with a foreign male friend on the net and they both saw her online on this site. SHE HAD NO ACCESS TO HER PROFILE. IT WAS NOT HER ONLINE. WHO WAS IT???? SOMEONE WAS SCAMMING!!!!!!
UPDATE!!!! - city-of-brides has branched out into the porn industry. What more sleaze do you need?
RE romanticscams: i have emailed you guys.....thanks for support
OJAS, I support you 100% 'The more investigations and reports, the better, thx.'
We need to all provide eachother with 'intel'...that way we will gain greater momentum in this fight.
Scammers only think of themselves. We are fighting scammers because we are thinking of others. hence our unity can destroy them. Fuck all those emotional rapists!
Grasshopper has declared 'The War on Scammers is more important than the War on terror!' lol
OJAS from United States
@Oz mates, share these links with your mates:
we knew about LT's foray into anti-scam, they launched this site in mid 2006 and it contains approx 40% photos of profiles that we asked them to shutdown. It has not been edited for 4yrs we believe so it is a dead site.
the management/admin on LT have changed and are a bit frosty to us now. However they are still shutting down profiles when we request, last one was only this week - Bondarenko 1257763982. We would like to help them (if Lovetopping is reading this) and we are simply asking for access back into their site so that we can police and report back to the guys who are writing to us.
De: Yulenka <info@NECESSITATE.nl> (uses Netherlands in the email address which sends up warning signs)
Enviado: Viernes 25 de Mayo de 2012 17:33
Asunto: look at my photos
I am easy going and kind person who loves to communicate with people and make new friends. I am jovial and cheery. I do not stop learning something new and love that. I am also active and not fond of being bored because of sitting at one place. I am interested in sports, like to read sportive literature. Also I like nature, watch BBC and Discovery channels. And when it is a sunny weather – I try to go to the nature. From not usual hobbies – billiards.
I think one can love shortcomings of another person even. (smile) As for the positive sides, I would love my man to be attentive and kind. He should be optimistic person. I would also love him to be romantic and able to surprise; I do not mean materialistic things here
Date of birth August 30, 1985
Height 165 cm (5'4')
Weight 110 lbs (50 kg)
Body type Slim
Hair color Brown
Eye color Green
Education Some college
English level Elementary
Marital status Never Married
Children Have no children
First of all I know for a fact that UADreams is a scam. I know this because my girlfriend works there. I can't say what city because she will be attacked if they found out she told me this, the woman get paid per letter they receive , they also get $6 per hour of video chat. Many of the girls on Uadreams are in happy relationships or even married. They do this as a job, they love when you send gifts and so do there husbands or boyfriends. Some people will say that they wrote to girls but when they meet the girl cannot make it, she has emergency in family or has work in another country, this is because either the girl has left the agency sometime ago and her translator still use her account to make money on letters or it is because the girl does not want to meet the man she is scamming . Believe me when I tell you this, ' No 20 year old model wants to marry a 60 year old man' you should not use this agency or any other to buy love, go to Europe and experience the life and maybe you will find love, but if you use these agencies you will lose all your money and the girl you love will be laughing about you and the 30 other men that are in love with her.
Agencies control their ladies by fear as I suspected
she will be attacked if they found out she told me this
they love when you send gifts and so do there husbands or boyfriends
these men has no self respect and are acting like pimps which of course is really what they are
Учреждения контролировать их дамы страх как я и предполагал
она будет атакован, если они узнали, что она сказала мне это
они любят, когда вы посылаете подарки и так же есть мужья или парни
этих людей не имеет самоуважение и действуют, как сутенеры что, конечно, на самом деле, какие они есть
[hidden] from Australia
An Excellent insight to UADreams who I am a member of as well. I think that may well change after reading everything I have just read.
I thought the most informative one was on page 40 from Hidden (2012-05-17) detailing some very legitimate questions based on what is covered here and the apparent avoidance of the Agency to either answer or be very vague to downright misinform. Well done on that one Hidden.
Thanks to all participants in what confirmed my suspicions on the Agency.
@[hidden] from Australia
When I asked Olga when VISA blocked my VISA card for transactions with uadreams.com 3 years ago 'did her company follow the Lugansk business plan' detailed here http://ukrainiangui..beauties/
she refused to reply to this question.
I suspect that the lady that I was writing to is under constant threat of attack even though she left the site some time ago as indicated by the author of this post on Delphi
I agree with you that page 40 was very revealing and well presented and am amazed that this agency has managed to keep going so long with all this exposure
If you are looking for love in Eastern Europe its a case of buyer beware. A fool and his money are soon parted and I have been taken for a ride so often i have learnt many of the tricks of the trade. We want to believe that young beautiful women want to be with older men. It is true that many women in Eastern Europe dont care about age, but then there is a whole industry; literally working day and night sending letters to unsuspecting men who dare to dream.
Things I have found. UA Ladys has girls on their site that have different profile details on other sites. for example Yana P. #3310 on UA Ladys is a 29 year old social worker, on other sites she is a 22 year old student. Both sites say their site is telling the truth, but expect me to pay to talk to then to work it out from the girl herself what her real truth is!
How many websites tell you not to send money or tickets or anything else before you meet a girl in the flesh. Or... like me you will have some lonely waits at the airport, only to find that she has been hurt in a taxi accident, mugged on the way to the airport.... or, 'why didnt i tell her that she needed a visa to get into the country' when I was talking to her!
My first wife was Russian. I met her through an agency in Russia. So I know that there are legitimate girls there. But since she wanted to get divorced and I have looked again for another wife some 10 years later, scammers have become a major industry and until you have been to the country yourself you just dont know the truth.
Go to the Philippines. The girls are Christian, speak English, have hundreds of years of European contact and while there are scammers there as well they are as a race much more reliable, friendly and honest. Go to the airports and you see a lot of foreign men with their filipina wives and lots of gorgeous half caste kids. Try that in Eastern Europe and see what you find in Russia and the Ukraine. If you want to see a lot of Russian and Ukrianian girls, talk to the divorce lawyers, that is where they seem to hang out in numbers.
Detective from Ukraine
3 months ago I opened an e-mail address for a person that does not exsist . It is very easy and any one can do it .
I also put this fictional person on UALady's .
In the profile , he is 35 and from the poorest country in Africa . His profession is a garbage collecter and picks up the trash . The only thing in his profile is that he says is that he worships satan . What are the chances of that ever happing in a life time ?
In 3 months time over 1500 letters were sent to this fictional person from UALady's .
All of these ladys profiles claim they are christian . All of the photos were photograghed by UALady's and many were even sexy like out of playboy magazine . Some of the profiles of these photos have been on UALady's site for more than 3 years and every letter that is sent is the exact same letter word for word that was sent to another fool .
I have been to some of the so called offices of UALady's and they are not what they want you to believe.
I am not from Ukraine but I am living in Ukraine .
If you are want to throw your money away then just go ahead and put it in the toilet and save yourself a lot of time and stop making some one else a rich millionair who could care less that you are a fool .
Save yourself the time and your money or just be a fool and learn the hard way .
If you are not convinced then just do what I did and find out for yourself .