I had a profile posted on an American dating web site and a female from my area answered me.
Her letter was a few lines long, in good English and she seemed honest and cute, so I replied.
The letter said she had a read-only trial account and would not be able to receive messages,
so she included a yahoo email address. She asked me to write to this yahoo email address.
I did this and a few days later her trial account was gone, she explained that she deleted
it because she found me. (that is what she answered, when I asked her about it)
This girl claimed to live in Kazan, Tartastan, 26 years old and called herself Barbi.
There was something suspicious about her letters, in particular I always had the
impression that she did not really read mine every time. Sometimes she wrote
personal, matching replies, then sometimes not. her photos of which she sent
about 25 so far, had number like 5.jpg, 6.jpg, 35.jpg etc.
Yesterday I did a query for some phrases of some of her emails and found them
posted on 2 other web sites. Apparently she wrote identical letters to other guys
using different names and different pictures. She or he asked those guys for money,
supposedly for tickets or visa paperwork. I guess I am lucky that she never asked
me for any money. However, I felt fooled when I saw "my" emails had also been
sent in parts to other guys.
For that reason I will post her here letters. I know that parts of these letters
have been posted on 2 other sites, but not all.
I include the full headers in the first email. The sender comes from a russian
dial-up but in another email I sent her a URL to one of my web sites and apparantly
"she" uses some sort of satellite DSL for the downstream, the IP number was
84.xx (to be filled in later).
Authentication-Results: mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 188.8.131.52 (EHLO aqua.relinfo.ru) (184.108.40.206)
by mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:02:29 -0700
Received: from [220.127.116.11] (92.214.dialup.mari-el.ru [18.104.22.168])
by aqua.relinfo.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j885LxCa024528
for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:28:33 +0400 (MSD)
Hello Peter! Have good day? The computer in service of acquaintances
found to me Some profiles of people which coincide with my inquiry. I
Preliminary studied them and has decided to send you to the first the
message Because your profile seems to me more interesting. I hope,
that You have time to send me some messages that we could it is better
to learn about each other. I shall tell a little about myself; my age
of 26 years old and my birthday on On July, 22. I was not married and
I live in an apartment with my parents. Some years, after the ending
of training I work seller of home appliances in a supermarket. To me
To like productive leisure, periodically go in for sports for
maintenance of a body. I like to travel and be in different places,
but My work does not allow me to do it frequently. I have many
friends, We sometimes together spend time, play billiards and tennis,
we have Other entertainment. I send you the picture that you knew my
person. Me very much like different sweet things, such as a pie, cake,
sweet. But frequently I do not permit itself to have it to not be
thick. Still I love beautiful clothes and different things of light
colours. I like of light tone, such as light-blue, pink, beige. And
what your favourite colour? Please Ask things interesting you about me
and inform me some The information on you: what you love an
entertainment? What your character? What You love qualities in women?
Whether You had the wife? I shall answer on your questions and to
inform you it is more about itself in following e-mail! I shall be To
wait for your messages. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org I with
impatience shall wait letter from you and I shall answer you at once
as soon as you to me write. it will be pleasant for me to see your new
photos and to learn a lot of new about you. Write to me I wait. Your
Dear mine , where you were gone, why any more do not write me
the letters, I wait already what is the time, and them all no.
There can be I you something has offended? Write to me please.
With impatience I wait Barbi.
Hi Peter! Have good day! Peter, you ask, where I live - to To regret
it is far from you. Otherwise it was not necessary for us much e-mail,
To learn each other. I for the first time have acquaintance through
the Internet. It was very difficult to me to place my structure in a
service of acquaintances, because I am in Russia, the service of
acquaintances does not accept the members from this country. I had to
specify in a profile, that I am in USA. In this letter I shall inform
you a little information myself and if the dialogue with me will be
interesting to you, I shall tell about myself in more detail in the
following letters. I live in an average part of Russia, in city Kazan
in Tatarstan republic. But if we shall decide to meet, I hope, that it
not Will be a problem for us because I have made a little Travel to
other countries. I was in the several countries of Europe; For example
Turkey, Italy, Germany. I made these travel as The tourist. Therefore
Peter, you should not have excitement be relative That we not beside.
I such woman, that if I shall like The person for a meeting I shall
reach even on the moon. Besides in Our days is not a problem to make
such travel. I not I worry about it and I have necessary feelings to
get acquainted and it is possible To have relations with the person of
other state. It is very interesting - Other culture, thinking,
traditions. For me this new-Probably and you Peter Can learn, that
such the Russian woman. I hope that you have not lost interest to me
and will answer me soon. I wait for yours e-mail, my American friend.
HI Peter! I am pleased to receive your reciprocal message. For me it
was pleasant to receive the letter from you today. I am very glad that
you have written to me. Thank for your picture, it me to like. I shall
be To increase and to unpack it. I liked absolutely all your pictures.
That picture with the clown really amusing! What small little mouse!
You have made absolutely correctly, that have not listened to the
neighbour and have let off that little mouse. Peter You e-mail means
for me, that I too was interesting to you. You Really Peter, see a
picture of me nice? Peter, at me is present to you It is a lot of
questions and I would like to ask them in the messages, I hope you
Will allow to me answers to them - OK? You for me the nice person, And
on this for me it is important to know your opinion on some things. Me
to not irritate, that you to be more senior than me. I to search for
the mature man, which would be to wise and scientific life. I like the
men which is more senior than me and can learn me to something in this
short life. I to want to connect destiny with the man of such age as
you. I think, that you read my structure and could see there, that I
haves serious intentions to get acquainted with the good person for
relations . I shall try to tell a little about my character. I do not
know as it to start, I think, that I very romantic person. I like to
communicate with people, it is pleasant to me Good humour. I very much
appreciate such qualities in people, as fidelity and honesty. I
believe in love, and I think it very valuable thing which needs to be
protected. I very much The jealous person. I adore, when to me pay
compliments and is ready to listen to them indefinitely. For me it is
necessary, that around of me there was a cleanliness and the order, I
frequently am engaged cleaning. Also to me to like to prepare for a
meal, various tasty things. It is pleasant to me romantic relations
between the man and The woman, but probably all women dream to get
acquainted with good The person to have with him beautiful romantic
relations. But frequently such things come to an end Very quickly. I
have no intention to spend myself on such acquaintances. While I have
not met In the life of such person to which I would decide to give
myself and the life. But me it would be desirable to find such person.
I think, that for the woman the main thing to have in a life not
Career or other success, and strong family and the favourite person
beside what to care of him. Tell please, you dream to meet what woman
in the life? Excuse Peter, that I ask you to discuss such frank thing
with The person whom you know couple of days. But it is interesting to
me to know It about you. I shall wait for yours e-mail. Yours
Hi , I was sad that you do not write me and do not answer on my
letters. There can be I you than that has offended or you simply play
with me in games? I wait from you of the answer. Yours Barbi.
At that point I had started to ignore her because her letters were ridiculous, not reflecting what I had written.
However, things picked up then again..
A real girl will likely be appreciative if the guy goes this length, even offer to absorb the small tax on the air-fare as her share. Let's see the feasibilty of my desire to protect a guy as well as a real girl.
imnotafool from United States
well the girl i talk to atm that hopefully is real we only talk on through site. no personal addresses or emails given. she did not do usual send to direct email thing and i did research. she paid on site and is very personal and is into details. i get all my answers. i still am caustious but ill cross my fingers. i need info anyways to know whole process. i got frind in russia and i plan on doing alot research. she knows i will fly there first to meet. i dont mind paying money for her taxes flight.. as long as i know she is real. i did some cultural searches to to see what life is like in her area and what interests those women and what they look for. i also did a search on failed foriegn marriages. communication problems etc, adjustment, new country. you have to be prepared.
OJAS from United States
Compliments on the extent of your homework alone! I hope a lot of newbies read your experiences and feel inspired to their homework before rushing to Western Union. Hope it works out for you and wish you all the best! :-)
OJAS from United States
Different people like different things from scammers - Congratulations Canada http://www.delphifa..p=6#63766
I settle for Cyrillic that I can use on the next one. If someone can Cyrillicize this whole thing + translate it will form a good set to pay the next scammer
Не оставляйте таш хлам на этом участке, российский опесдол ! Или пожалуйста, прибудьте в Швецию - я ампутирую таши муда и буду кормить их к моим собакам, только для развлечения!
курите мою трубку и ёб твою мать, хохол!
Я буду сосать хуй.Простите меня Я ходячий говоед Я кусок шведского дерьма. Ребята выебать меня не хотите
Так сильно чешится дупло, скорее скорее. help me help me
соскучилась soskuchilas' ...Da ya ego na khu'yu vertel
Oto'idi, a to jebnu, pedik
Y tebya razve est' xyi mudak iz Sweden! tebja uzhe vyebali pohozhe kak nado. Ty ot straha reshil zavesti sebe sobak i ebat' ih doma. Govnjuk!
U tebja vmesto mozgov der'mo raz tol'ko uma hvataet pomewat' na jetom sajte devushek. Huj to ne stoit i pojetomu iwesh' babu iz-za granicy!!
poshel na xui
Ідзі ты да ліхамaтары!
Иди на хуй
Ептать сам пошёл на хуй! Удивил блять.Придурок ебанный! Поучи еще пару русских фраз
bez perspektiv, bez buduschego, bez stil'a, bez klassa, dejstvitel'no pateticheskogo!
Khokhol, ty dumayete, chto ty umny, chtoby ostavit' tash poeben' v etom vebsajte? Naprotiv, ty pooschr'ayete nas borot's'a s tami bol'she. Ty ne nastol'ko umny, kak ty 'zarabotayete' den'gi s tashim skamerstvo?
Ty - bespoleznyj zhulik i pedik! Proch' ots'uda, vozvratites' k tashej t'uremnoj yachejke, gde tash bugor mog tolkat' yego khuj v tashem zadnicu. Eto - tasha buduschaya zhizn' ..... ahahahahahaahahhahaahhahahaha
I see you copied some of my Russian posts on the Natalia from Ossiniki thread?
But why would you want to transcribe them into cyrillic? It's just me calling the scammer
that crawled onto the thread a worthless, lowlife scumbag (etcetc) in Russian, generally
verbally abusing him, and he replies to me in kind (actually all the cyrillic parts are his).
I deliberately didn't use cyrillic so that no-one else would be offended by my language.
(and actually I notice that you've repeated a couple of lines).
nothing much to understand really ;D...but I can tell you that sukin syn = son of a bitch
OJAS from United States
When a future one of these pops up I wanted to have a suppy of their own medicine that will make most impact in their own script.
Dosn't most computers in Russian Internet cafes show The Bat! (v3.85.03) Professional as the X Mailer? IS this standard OP for cafes?????
you're almost right. It's not unusual that Russian internet cafés install the BAT!. I
discovered this myself in a café in Ulyanovsk. And a real Russian girl used to write to
me from a café in Saratov that used the BAT!
the reason is that the BAT! is normally used for spamming, and the cafés can
make a bit of extra cash on the side renting out to spammers.
Unfortunately, very many scammers use the BAT! as well, especially the organized ones.
In other words, the BAT! is not a scam certainty on its own, only in combination with
other factors such as spoofed IPs, copied form letters, the use of proxy servers, and so on.
All of these you can find if you click on the welcome page below.
imnotafool from United States
whats the difference between the bat xmailer and X-Mailer: Ramail 3, (aten) (curiousty here)
whats the difference between the bat xmailer and X-Mailer: Ramail 3?
Well, I'm not a techie, but the BAT! is a software for desktops and laptops, whereas I think RAMail (radio mail) is a wireless data product, ie used with cellphones. Obviously manufactured by different companies Ramail is American, The BAT! was designed by Ritlabs, from Moldovia i think.
I sent four identical short responses asking the same questions but this so called Sheryl from Quechup date site hasnt stopped to read any of them
It is sad we write and you totally disregard the subject*s) of the letter before. I was hoping you are for real. I cannot meet you in europe next month. I am on tour the months of January and also February in the western United States, Canada and Asia. So a future european roundevous with you is not even remotely possible in the next 5 months. Each letter from you is advanced bull shit about meeting soon. I have already writen to you about me visiting you in Russia next spring or summer and you haven't responded. I would like to meet your parents (Shawn and Nancy) --:) and go fishing with your dad. This letter to you is identical to the last three I have sent to you. --:) Let's try a repeat of my last three letters to you again. Hello Vladamir!!!!!!!
1). What is your real name?
2). What is your birthday? Year, month and day?
3). What color is your eyes? They look dark brown in your picture
4). How tall (height) are you?
5). How much do you weigh?
6). Do you have a computer at home or go to the cafe?
7). What is your address and cell number?
That's it for now. Tell Boris hello for me and have a great day in your deceptive corner of the world. Johnny
As always she replies about how good it was to hear from me. --') And moves into the topic that she can't sleep for thinking of meeting me... This is her response on Tues Dec 4, 2007.
Hi my dear Johnny! Have good day! I am glad, that my letters pleasant
for you. How do you feel? I 'm very good! I a little excited, and
yesterday I hardly fell asleep. I was grasped with an idea about our
meeting. It is joyful event for me from i have much emotions. Such as
excitement both the big impatience and expectation of this day . You
have brought the whole sea of emotions in my life Johnny, and it is
difficult for me to consult with it, but I can tell, that it
pleasantly and gave me new push and the purpose for life. I think,
lovely, that it is necessary for us to arrange our meeting so that
there were no difficulties and inconveniences in our affairs. I can
arrange on my work, that to have some days free for me. Johnny, and
will your work be to allow you to make it? Probably you have the
intense schedule on work also you should be busy. Then we can meet
more close from you or even I could arrive to you for some days. For
me there is no problem to make long travel. If such way more
convenient for you and my arrival not will create inconvenience for
you Johnny , let's choose this plan. It for me even it is more good,
because I can see as you live, your friends, you can show me where you
live and different places loved for you and if sometime you will need
to visit your work. My work not so important also also here can manage
without me, therefore I do not worry about my work. Inform me dear,
the opinions! If it is a good way for you too I shall make travel
preparations. My hugs and kisses Yours Sheryl.
I responded with the same 7 questions making it 5 in a row. I haven't replied to this one. Kinda tired of the game....
Here is Sheryl's pic. Hope all you guys are wary of her. She's a definite scammer or to dumb to have any convo with and for sure seeking the money gram.... It's been 5 days since I heard from her so I think the Boris and Vladmire comments by me may have caught the eye at last. I have also received out of the blue e mails the past week from (3) more poor refugees with huge sums of cash needing financial help in getting the dough and (5) more lonely russian ladies using the usual letters about a special youth program to work in the USA or seeling their other half and soul mate. Seems to be increasing lately!!! Maybe because of Christmas? I became interested in scam info sites some time ago after being possibly scammed for $780 USD by a Natalia Duka. I have her letters and pics but we wrote for over six months and there are many. She did answer questions and wrote about much of her day to day life and work and family. After checking the letters on your site I have found some scant similarities but not enough to be sure she was using form letters. None of her letters are even close to the ones on your site from a Natalia Duka. Interestingly, her photos do not match any I have seen on here. She was far from a model type and sent some very not so flattering pics of her to me. She seemed like the very common type and a nice person. Also, many of the pics were of her holding her sisters small kids or so she claimed. I am not sure still that she was a scammer which is why I haven't posted her on here. In the end she sold her clothing business in Saratov and said she had enough to come here against my objections. She went to Moscow to get a visa and ran into the usual red tape. I have a friend who works for the INS and he verified they had interviewed her in Moscow 4 times and upped the ante with each interview because she appeared to be an extreme non return risk and couldnt give any reasonable details about her trip plans while here in the USA. After three weeks in Moscow and several begging pleas for money that I did not do, she sent a phone number and I called her. We talked for 9 minutes. I could not understand most of her words. Most of the time she was crying and kept saying bitterly how much she loved me and that she had lost everything trying to come to the USA. I told her I would send her $700 to get back to Saratov and find a job. She received it on a tuesday late and e mailed me thanking me for keeping my word and that she hoped I wouldnt hold it against ger for trying to rush here to be with me and that she hoped we could make a long term goal and plan to do that after she found work again in Saratov. She emailed me thursday and said she was leaving Moscow Saturday for Saratov and wanted me to know how much she loved me. I didnt hear from her for three weeks and then I received an e mail that said she was shamed and not an angel. Maybe she was just a common girl and not worth much. That she met the man in Moscow who paid for a holiday in Turkey and that she had a great time but was exhausted and needed to get back to Saratov. To try to find herself again. That she was not the liar and had to tell me she evidently is not the good woman. That she hoped in my kindness I would forgive her and ask if I would reply and answer if I would still want to have future relations with her. That she prayed I would forgive and love her. I answered that further romantic relationed were not possible but I would like to write with her often and be sure she is doing ok. I have never heard from her again. The Natalia Duka on this site does not match in photos or letters and structure at all. Maybe I am blind. The Natalia Duka I wrote to haunts me and troubles me as I often think I may have messed up and she was for real. Here are her pictures. I hope someone else had some dealings with her. Maybe it is wrong of me but I would be relieved if there was others who she tried to scam....