I had a profile posted on an American dating web site and a female from my area answered me.
Her letter was a few lines long, in good English and she seemed honest and cute, so I replied.
The letter said she had a read-only trial account and would not be able to receive messages,
so she included a yahoo email address. She asked me to write to this yahoo email address.
I did this and a few days later her trial account was gone, she explained that she deleted
it because she found me. (that is what she answered, when I asked her about it)
This girl claimed to live in Kazan, Tartastan, 26 years old and called herself Barbi.
There was something suspicious about her letters, in particular I always had the
impression that she did not really read mine every time. Sometimes she wrote
personal, matching replies, then sometimes not. her photos of which she sent
about 25 so far, had number like 5.jpg, 6.jpg, 35.jpg etc.
Yesterday I did a query for some phrases of some of her emails and found them
posted on 2 other web sites. Apparently she wrote identical letters to other guys
using different names and different pictures. She or he asked those guys for money,
supposedly for tickets or visa paperwork. I guess I am lucky that she never asked
me for any money. However, I felt fooled when I saw "my" emails had also been
sent in parts to other guys.
For that reason I will post her here letters. I know that parts of these letters
have been posted on 2 other sites, but not all.
I include the full headers in the first email. The sender comes from a russian
dial-up but in another email I sent her a URL to one of my web sites and apparantly
"she" uses some sort of satellite DSL for the downstream, the IP number was
84.xx (to be filled in later).
Authentication-Results: mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 126.96.36.199 (EHLO aqua.relinfo.ru) (188.8.131.52)
by mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:02:29 -0700
Received: from [184.108.40.206] (92.214.dialup.mari-el.ru [220.127.116.11])
by aqua.relinfo.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j885LxCa024528
for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:28:33 +0400 (MSD)
Hello Peter! Have good day? The computer in service of acquaintances
found to me Some profiles of people which coincide with my inquiry. I
Preliminary studied them and has decided to send you to the first the
message Because your profile seems to me more interesting. I hope,
that You have time to send me some messages that we could it is better
to learn about each other. I shall tell a little about myself; my age
of 26 years old and my birthday on On July, 22. I was not married and
I live in an apartment with my parents. Some years, after the ending
of training I work seller of home appliances in a supermarket. To me
To like productive leisure, periodically go in for sports for
maintenance of a body. I like to travel and be in different places,
but My work does not allow me to do it frequently. I have many
friends, We sometimes together spend time, play billiards and tennis,
we have Other entertainment. I send you the picture that you knew my
person. Me very much like different sweet things, such as a pie, cake,
sweet. But frequently I do not permit itself to have it to not be
thick. Still I love beautiful clothes and different things of light
colours. I like of light tone, such as light-blue, pink, beige. And
what your favourite colour? Please Ask things interesting you about me
and inform me some The information on you: what you love an
entertainment? What your character? What You love qualities in women?
Whether You had the wife? I shall answer on your questions and to
inform you it is more about itself in following e-mail! I shall be To
wait for your messages. My email is email@example.com I with
impatience shall wait letter from you and I shall answer you at once
as soon as you to me write. it will be pleasant for me to see your new
photos and to learn a lot of new about you. Write to me I wait. Your
Dear mine , where you were gone, why any more do not write me
the letters, I wait already what is the time, and them all no.
There can be I you something has offended? Write to me please.
With impatience I wait Barbi.
Hi Peter! Have good day! Peter, you ask, where I live - to To regret
it is far from you. Otherwise it was not necessary for us much e-mail,
To learn each other. I for the first time have acquaintance through
the Internet. It was very difficult to me to place my structure in a
service of acquaintances, because I am in Russia, the service of
acquaintances does not accept the members from this country. I had to
specify in a profile, that I am in USA. In this letter I shall inform
you a little information myself and if the dialogue with me will be
interesting to you, I shall tell about myself in more detail in the
following letters. I live in an average part of Russia, in city Kazan
in Tatarstan republic. But if we shall decide to meet, I hope, that it
not Will be a problem for us because I have made a little Travel to
other countries. I was in the several countries of Europe; For example
Turkey, Italy, Germany. I made these travel as The tourist. Therefore
Peter, you should not have excitement be relative That we not beside.
I such woman, that if I shall like The person for a meeting I shall
reach even on the moon. Besides in Our days is not a problem to make
such travel. I not I worry about it and I have necessary feelings to
get acquainted and it is possible To have relations with the person of
other state. It is very interesting - Other culture, thinking,
traditions. For me this new-Probably and you Peter Can learn, that
such the Russian woman. I hope that you have not lost interest to me
and will answer me soon. I wait for yours e-mail, my American friend.
HI Peter! I am pleased to receive your reciprocal message. For me it
was pleasant to receive the letter from you today. I am very glad that
you have written to me. Thank for your picture, it me to like. I shall
be To increase and to unpack it. I liked absolutely all your pictures.
That picture with the clown really amusing! What small little mouse!
You have made absolutely correctly, that have not listened to the
neighbour and have let off that little mouse. Peter You e-mail means
for me, that I too was interesting to you. You Really Peter, see a
picture of me nice? Peter, at me is present to you It is a lot of
questions and I would like to ask them in the messages, I hope you
Will allow to me answers to them - OK? You for me the nice person, And
on this for me it is important to know your opinion on some things. Me
to not irritate, that you to be more senior than me. I to search for
the mature man, which would be to wise and scientific life. I like the
men which is more senior than me and can learn me to something in this
short life. I to want to connect destiny with the man of such age as
you. I think, that you read my structure and could see there, that I
haves serious intentions to get acquainted with the good person for
relations . I shall try to tell a little about my character. I do not
know as it to start, I think, that I very romantic person. I like to
communicate with people, it is pleasant to me Good humour. I very much
appreciate such qualities in people, as fidelity and honesty. I
believe in love, and I think it very valuable thing which needs to be
protected. I very much The jealous person. I adore, when to me pay
compliments and is ready to listen to them indefinitely. For me it is
necessary, that around of me there was a cleanliness and the order, I
frequently am engaged cleaning. Also to me to like to prepare for a
meal, various tasty things. It is pleasant to me romantic relations
between the man and The woman, but probably all women dream to get
acquainted with good The person to have with him beautiful romantic
relations. But frequently such things come to an end Very quickly. I
have no intention to spend myself on such acquaintances. While I have
not met In the life of such person to which I would decide to give
myself and the life. But me it would be desirable to find such person.
I think, that for the woman the main thing to have in a life not
Career or other success, and strong family and the favourite person
beside what to care of him. Tell please, you dream to meet what woman
in the life? Excuse Peter, that I ask you to discuss such frank thing
with The person whom you know couple of days. But it is interesting to
me to know It about you. I shall wait for yours e-mail. Yours
Hi , I was sad that you do not write me and do not answer on my
letters. There can be I you than that has offended or you simply play
with me in games? I wait from you of the answer. Yours Barbi.
At that point I had started to ignore her because her letters were ridiculous, not reflecting what I had written.
However, things picked up then again..
She likes me, she really likes me!!!! Whoopee!!!! It took 11 letters but he/she now asks for the order---send money for visa. BTW, this girl's pictures are different than the Valentina Sharpova listed on all the scam sites. She's a cutie...wish she were real!
Hello my dear love Adam!
It is very pleasant for me to see your letter and I am very happy that in me there is such person as you.For me our relations are very important and I do not want to lose my love. You the only thing that in me are, I want only one I want to be with
you very much You that person with which I dream to share my most passionate love.
You in whom I very much need also your love is required for me as my love is required to you. I want to tell that I love you very much and my heart belongs only to you.It is broken by you and I very much want that our hearts were in a place and it will be necessary I for you I promise. My dear, I some days I could not answer i hope that it has not broken you. All these days I thought of you much and I reflected on my arrival in you very much I want to visit my love. And to be with her some time in a place,
My parents have blessed me and they very much want that I have met you very much.
They are glad that I have found such person as you and also want that I was happy with you my dear. On these days I have visited Agency where I was interested about cost
of documents to you.The passport for travel abroad as to me spoke is necessary for my
travel that it not so difficultly to receive him.For its reception it will occupy some time and it not so long, we could meet with you very soon.What you think about our meeting? I want it very much and I wish to see all heart you.To glance in your eyes and to sink in your love, in your sweet embraces. Also except for the passport I need the visa that I could take off abroad.Without it how I was impossible also hope that you understand me? <b>The passport costs 73 dollars and also the visa costs with services of agency of 450 dollars. I asked my parents this money. But they would speak me that with the big pleasure have helped me. But in them there is no it and they can not help me, it for them very difficultly pay it. My love for me is required to arrive to you 523 dollars, it is very difficult for me now.</b> To find this money and to arrive to you during two weeks. I want tell you that we could to meet you for this time. As you my love I hope that you to me can help me achieve you! I know also that I can receive your money rather quickly, it is possible for making a remittance! Now there is a service which can to receive money without what not problems and it is very reliable It is system of remittances through bank of the western union, For that to send money to me, you need only my surname and my name! And Country Russia.
<b>My love my home address it:
The Country Russia,
City of Vladivostok,
The house 25,
My name is: Valentina Sharova </b>
I could arrive to you for this time and to be with you within 3 months, what you think of it? In me there is a big love to you and we can share it, only if we shall be forever!
I can not express all my feelings to you through the screen of a computer.But I know that I can make it, when we shall be the faces to each other.I also can not present my life without you my love.I want to share all my passionate love only about with mine the close male.You for me that male with whom I want to make it, I want to like you to
kiss and embrace much!I shall give you my fine kisses before which it will be very difficult to stand.I love you and my love only for you, you the only thing that in me are.
My love I shall wait from you for the positive answer,Your letter is very important for me and I hope that I shall answer him in time.I love you very much!Your fine Valentina!
anonymous from Norway
Hi guys, I just surfed through here in my quest to find out if the irl I'm writing to is real or a scam. I'm patient as she hasn't asked for any money yet. She's a english teacher and she actually called me twice form a payphone since she hasn't a phone or mobile herself. Her english wasn't really convincing though. But she could have had low grades in her class :-) In the beginning, she seemed to not answer many of my questions and never comment on what I wrote. But after I made a point of it, she did answer some of the questions, like her address , name of the school she teaches at etc. I'm still not convinced though, but very patient and have decided to walk along with her. Now, suddenly, she's opening up for me and says she loves me, which is rather strange. I have thought that it could be the language barrier, maybe she's not expressing herself accurate in those terms. Hell knows. I am, like all of you, willing to strech myself quite a bit to catch this beauty! hum hum. And I am awaiting her next move. She has told me that she prefers to come and visit me, but specifies that it's up to me. Everything is up to me, and she's very careful in implying anything. A real rose in my opinion. God knows that I wish this is true. anyway, I did do a google on sokme phrases of her letters and found some on these anti-acamming sites indicating that the emails could be form-letters. But, my little brain came up with a solution that may be right: If she's using some kind of translating tool, then some sentences could be a result of the software translation and therefore the same as some others emails? Am I stupid now? he he Maybe she was using some kind of form letter given to her from an agent? Hell knows how many emails she has gotten from men like you and me and i can clearly understand her wanting to make her first emails easy to send. I couldn't find any traces of her later emails on the google and her emails have gotten more and more personalized indicating that she is really writing herself now. I have stated that I wish she is not a scammer, indicating that I am aware of such thing. I hopes that would scare her away if she was a scammer. But she's still with me. I get one email every day on average. She's telling me a lot of thing of her personal life and ask me alot about me and how I am indicating that she want to know what kind of man I am. First I was afraid she was an agent using this material to post my profile on another site, but I believed that to be to hysterical of a thought he he. Who the hell wants my profile? hehe After she got a long lecture of my peronality and beliefs etc, she really came lose emotionally. This is scary indeed! I had thought of letting her borrow money to a trip to visit me, letting her know that I would indeed refund her, but that sounds really creepy since she might thinks that I fool her? I believe russian women are sceptical too, so I don't really know how to handle the issue of bying tickets. I will not send her money, for sure. I guess I have to buy tickes and mail her them with a carrier and make sure they are non-refundable for her and only for me? he he. God, are we careful or what? he he I have a friend that met a rusiian woman on an agency's netplace. He sendt money for VISA to the agency. Much more than what is really costed. She couldn't get the visa so he had to travel to Moscow to meet her. He sendt her money to take the train to Moscow and meet her. They went to the embassy in Moscow and got the Visa, which he had to pay for again. The agency kept the money they had gotten. Then he had to go back home and wait for her to arrive whan Visa was ready a couple of weeks later. And she did arrive! That is about 3 weeks ago. One of the first days she was here, she started on a language course for foreigners. I have visited them and she's so cute and they are really in love with each other! They got married last friday, one week ago. Because they had to. Else, she would have to go back to Russia after the expiration of the Visa, which was one or three months long. So guys, there are real women out there in Russia! They told me that many of his questions were left unanswered by her for 2 reasons. 1. Her english was not good. She didn't se the actual emails herself - only the translated once from the translater. 2. The translater/agency witheld info intentionally for certain reasons - maybe to prolong the translation business. That is their living. So don't sidpair if you don't get the answers and that emails look like form letters. It may be the translater of the agency that is sending the form letters! Be patient. And I know they say, don't send money. But my friend did send some (only $150 for train tickets - yes, I know, they don't cost that much and she didn' ask for it either. He sent it anyway.) h emet with her, and felt that this was real, so it was easy for him then to pay for her airline ticket later. And she did arrive. Lucky man!!! Lastly, I run my own dating site. If you want to check it out, it's at www.enslig.net It's just started and have now around 200 russian women. Not alot, but I personally check every profile and will delete any sign of false or scammer activity! I wish you all good luck and a Happy Easter! God Bless us all! I love America!
anonymous from United States
another telltale to watch for is what time of ay you recieve an email from them. I recieved one at 9:30 am PST, and she told me she was at the library working, well, at 9:30 AM, PST the library is closed.
minnimaw1@YAHOO.COM from United States
First of all I'd would like to thank everyone here for posting. I followed some of the links in your postings and lo and behold the hottie that was wanting to come visit me was on one of them. The name she gave me is velli. Valentina Sharpova. She found me on a single parents site. I also found some of the same letters she sent me here.
anonymous from United States
I know this scammer as Tatyana Gorbach but these photos are being used by many scammers. The real lady in the photos is names Inna and she is from Zaporoshye, Ukraine. She has uploaded hundreds of photos which is one reason why the scammers like to use her. Here is the web site where the photoes were stolen from.
On this website you can check the address of the person from Kazan www.gotokazan.com/scam.htm
firstname.lastname@example.org from New Zealand
i have been getting emails from a very nice girl in kazan for over two years, i have just got back from there after spending 4 weeks over there. The girl i went to meet was a very nice girl, and her family was very nice as well. I just think all you people should give them a break.
anonymous from United States
Probably if there's any money to exchange I'd rather buy my ticket and go visit somewhere I've never been. If it's a scam, at least I had a good trip!
email@example.com from United States
There are many nice girls in Russia and most of them have never known what a so-called 'scam' is and how can you take money from someone and disappear after. There will be more chances for an american man to meet a real girl if he is corresponding with a girl using professional (paid) dating services and plans to visit her in Russia (Ukrain, Belarus, Moldova) or Europe. Very important to know the girl's home address and talk to her on the phone. In Russia mostly everyone has a phone and cell phone let's say is a must to have. Besides, using a cell phone you can exchange sms which is cheap and very fun and exciting to send and recieve.
anonymous from United States
I'd agree however get this. She's 27, lives with Mum & Dad, is a physician working with childrean, and HAS NO PHONE! (WARNING, WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! DANGER!) I have no doubt there are numerous young & beautiful Russian women who'd love to escape to America and find true romance. It's just a shame some scammer ruins the whole process for everyone. Obviously, some fat old russian guy who believes in capitalism! Best of luck....
anonymous from United States
Hey, I think Apt 5 must be a happening place...full of beautiful young women. Anyone up for a long-distance panty raid? LOL
Hello my dear Adam.
It is very pleasant for me to see your answer and also it is pleasant for me that you want to see me. I am ready to call to you and to prove my reality, it will be valid
very much with conviction! I love you and I am ready to make all to be with you for ever to love you, and to share our love. You are very important in my life and I do not want to lose you, I want that you for ever were mine. My love in me is not present any phone and you can not call to me. But I can call to you and we can speak with you by the phone. I visited a telephone exchange and asked about a bell to you and I can
do it if you want it. Also it would be very pleasant for me to hear your voice and to speak you really, that I love you!
To me spoke that I need your name and a surname completely, also your home address. My love to call to you it it is very expensive for me. If you will help me with my bell I call you immediately. I very much ask you, I very much want to hear your voice, inform me it. I shall wait for your letter with the big impatience.
I offered to send her a cell phone - I mean every doctor in Russia should have a T-Mobile To-Go Phone, right? I'll let you know what she/he responds. Notice the email is valentinagord yet her name is valentina sharova...and she lives with her parents and all the other scam girls in Apt #5. Must be one hell of an apt!!!!!!
firstname.lastname@example.org from United States
I am currently conversing with Irina, email@example.com, and I saw a post or two relating to this e-dress. Can anyone tell me more? The e-dress is real, but is she scamming?
anonymous from United States
Hope not for your sake -- she's a hottie!
anonymous from Canada
This is what I got for the email firstname.lastname@example.org
Getting MX record for gawab.com (from local DNS server, may be cached)... Got it!
dammmmmmmm, incredible ..
i was first introduced to a site , and i was amazed how many BEAUTIFULL and sweet grls that wrote me ! ... and i must say when i found out that they try to scam me .. i couldnt believe it !!!! HOW LOW CAN A PERSON GO !!!!
well i never sent any money to anybody !! and never will ............ hehe and since then scammers claiming they were beautifull white american girls , studying in nigeria ???? and african girls claiming that they have a great fortune ( several ) millions but they need MY help to get them .....
i lost all faith in intenet dating !! hehe
but thank for a good and MIND OPENING site !! really saved me from losing a fortune !!!
thanks alot guys .... from us here in scandinavia !!