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Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 2
Hi Peter. I am glad to receive again your message, every day. We start
to learn each other better and for me it is an interesting thing,
Yours e-mail. last time at me on soul is present boredom, not Occurs
any joyful things and your message now for me As a solar beam. Peter,
thanks. Yours e-mail what you the person gradually helps me to
understand. At once I shall answer your questions. In these days off I
and my girlfriend went to theatre. Now began a summer theatrical
season. In our city there are 2 large theatres. At these theatres
various performances are put. Also on performances theatres from other
cities here act. Earlier we frequently went to theatre, but recently
on it there was no time. We with the girlfriend have decided to visit
performance which referred to " Games of the excited men. " It is a
ridiculous parody to mutual relations of men and women which many
years live together. It was the comedy. We have not bad spent. Peter I
send you other picture of. I hope, that it will be To like you. Tell
to me more in detail about the family. Whether it is a lot of at You
relatives? What at you with them of the relation? As frequently you
Gather? In my family very much close relations. I to you already
Informed, that I live with mum and the daddy. We live in a cosy
apartment, where There are three inhabited rooms, and as kitchen, a
balcony and a bathroom. I have a room. I the only child at the
parents. A name my Father Igor , him 49 years old and he Works the
builder. My mother Nina, her 46 years old. Now she does not work some
years and Is engaged in housekeeping. We like each other, sometimes We
are chosen for city for an entertainment. In the summer we go on a
beach and on fishing. During the winter period of time we go for a
drive on skates and a ski. This good time for me! In private life I
have emptiness. Last relations at me were the last year. One was The
boyfriend, but I have left him. we did not like each other and had
various interests. Among associates of me of people I cannot allocate
anybody for serious relations. Good men to become it is ever less and
annoyingly in Next time to test disappointment when you think that has
met The suitable person. Likely therefore I also have addressed in
service acquaintances. Probably here I can find the person who will be
Me to love, appreciate and understand. It is not important for me his
financial situation and work by which he makes. I have specified in a
structure that I search more Advanced age because I think, that the
person which has lived There is enough years, already has experience
and has learned to appreciate women and to address With them. I shall
be ready to give myself all without the rest to such person and I
think, that the main advantage of the woman is fidelity and skill To
make family happy, without quarrels and conflicts. On it I I finish
the letter. Peter, write to me the ideas that I Has told to you. I
wait for your messages. Yours Barbi.
Hi Peter. It is pleasant, that you studied my some ideas in the last
message. Peter, I usually do not tell about the deep ideas and
opinions, but to you has written, because has felt desire to open it
to you. I more independent woman, but probably sometimes am necessary
that there was one man, which can to open and trust - sometimes
frequently it happens hardly to reflect on all these things. I am
glad, that has found at you understanding me, you see it happens not
frequently. Thank Peter , that you have written to me some details
about your life and family, I closely studied it. It has helped me
more well to understand you and your life and you become closer man .
Thanks for pictures of your parrot. A nice bird. I understand you. You
wished to find me and have quickly written to me the letter. But I
have left from a computer at once as soon as have sent the letter.
Peter It is time to me to go to do some businesses and it is necessary
to meet the friends. By the way I told by him, that got acquainted
with you, and parents too. Have good day. I wait for your letters.
HI dear Peter !
Peter , today I have very intense day on my work. I found a little time
what to send you this news and and to inform, that I miss, when I wait
yours e-mail. On the account of that that my city is located you are
right. It is on coast of the river of Volga it very beautiful, and the
ferry, a picture which I to you there go has sent is made there. The
ferry have made to get over on other party of the river. I shall write
to you later Peter . Yours Barbi.
P.S.Peter , and you have desire more likely to reach to a computer, to
read mine e-mail ?
Dear Peter! This week I have a new theme for reflection, and these new
ideas excite me. I do not know, how you Peter, but for me starts to
have importance our exchange of messages. I want to tell, that it is
new emotions, In my quiet heart. For me it is unusual to begin
relations with the e-mail. Such situation that there is a distance
between us, - draws my ideas to you. I for a long time have
understood, that if is present, some difficulties to achieve the
purpose,- That desire to achieve this the purposes increases. Probably
it is one of those things who forces me to reflect frequently about
You Peter. I think, that I should grasp your heart and you cannot
struggle then with this female magic. What will you answer me it dear
Peter?. I work as the seller of home appliances in a supermarket. I
advise people which come something to buy. Dear Peter, I again want to
set to you some questions: That there are main values in your life:
family, work, money Or something another? What your plans for the
future? Write Peter also inform your ideas, I shall wait your
Hi my dear! I now read yours e-mail, and it was interesting to me to
find out your opinion that I spoke you in my last message. Our
exchange of opinions is interesting to me and I think, that now I can
make some opinion on what your character. Dear, I would like to find
out, how you like to spend the free time. I very cheerful person also
think out Various entertainments for itself and the friends. To me to
like to help them to make life interesting. It can be different
things: Dances, cinema, parties or entertainments on the nature. But
if to speak frankly in the last these entertainments give time I have
less than pleasure. I frequently dream of romantic evening with the
favourite person, it can be a supper or simply walk . I think, that in
it there is a lot of charm. You the romantic person Peter? Whether you
think, sometimes, of such things? You like cosy evenings with the
family? I very much love holidays when all family gathers, behind one
table. It is very cosy and comfortable for me. And how you like to
carry out holidays dear? What for you makes a cosiness and rest? Tell
to me please about it Peter. Peter , excuse me for a question: whether
there is at you now any woman? I think, that you are good, as the man
and To like many women. Because at me good taste, and you to like me.
What your private life now, Please tell about it. Probably you have to
me any frank questions? I shall answer them. Write to me more in
detail about the feelings and desires, to me to like to read, when you
tell about yourself, I am ready To listen about it. I wait for your
My embraces. Yours Barbi
She typically sent 2 or 3 photos with each of these mails, and apparantly they were all of the same girl. At some point I mentioned a pet bird and she sent then photos of her with her black cat. I guess that was random coincidence, but maybe she did indeed read that email. I will never know.
heres a sugestion, pretty as they seem they are not real women, the photos are but it is a MAN writing all these letters. you want them to stop, don't waste your time, simply make a filter in your email to delete from the server any emails from mailgogle.info, or any you find, they will stop. do not answer any of them, I'm sorry you are lonely, but you are also a victom if you respondin any manner other than to delete, and filter.
thank you for your time
anonymous from United States
Here is a letter I received from someone on loveandseek.com. it is almost the same as the one above. I didn't have high hopes anyway. She was always impatient! I didn't respond quick enough.
Hello Walt!!! I am glad to receive again your message, every day we
We start to learn each other better and for me it is an interesting
thing, yours letters. last time at me on soul is present boredom, not
Occurs any joyful things and your message now for me As a solar beam.
Walt, thanks, that you wrote to me some answers to my questions.
Yours letter what you the person gradually helps me to understand.
Walt I send you other picture of. I hope, that it will be To like
you. Tell to me more in detail about the family. Whether it is a lot
of at You relatives? What at you with them of the relation? As
frequently you Gather? I already spoke you, that I live with mum. We
live in an apartment, where 2 rooms, kitchen, a balcony and bathing. I
the only child. My father has left from us 2 years back. He has
warned, that will not return any more. I had the favorite person, but
unfortunately he has got in failure and has died. It was 3 years
back. We met 2 years and wanted to have family... But the destiny has
decided differently and we could not be together. Therefore I do not
love long dialogue. When the person you love, it is understandable in
one month of dialogue. How you consider? My favorite person was from
Italy. I very much like foreigners, therefore I have decided to
address to acquaintance on the Internet. Likely therefore I also have
addressed in service acquaintances. Probably here I can find the
person who will be Me to love, appreciate and understand. It is not
important for me his financial situation and work by which he makes. I
have specified in a structure that I search more Advanced age because
I think, that the person which has lived There is enough years,
already has experience and has learned to appreciate women and to
address With them. I shall be ready to give myself all without the
rest to such person and I think, that the main advantage of the woman
is fidelity and skill To make family happy, without quarrels and
conflicts. On it I I finish the letter. Walt, write to me the ideas
that I Has told to you. I wait for your messages. Yours Svetlana.
anonymous from Sweden
American users should probably be aware that this isn't a direct attack at America at all, as I've noticed people are thinking.
I'm from Sweden, we're almost bordering Russia (Finland in between) and I too get this. Distance isn't relevant at all.
Detecting these scammers, or 'phishers' as more commonly called, is simple. Find a factual error, inquire about it. Many times, the first few emails are automatized and the replies won't make sense in given context.
Again, I urge all Americans to realize that these are simple scammers, in fact, they may even be from some other country.
As a well-meaning computer geek, I tend to spot these kinds frauds easily and go to their roots. Following is an excerpt from the email transcript:
Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.100.1.17?) (188.8.131.52)
by mail.mailzervis.net with SMTP; 15 Aug 2007 00:23:45 -0000
'HELO' is intended to specify some more information on who's sending an email, generally speaking. What we see here is an IP address, but the strange part is that this IP address does not belong to the Internet. It's a private address, which means the scammers probably have a local mail relay. We then see where my mail-server got the mail from, 'mail.mailzervis.net' via the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and what date.
Another detail is that after the first IP address (four digits separated by dots) we see another one in parenthesis. This is the most honest information we can find about the sender, which mail-server he/she uses.
Guess what? It's situated in the Netherlands.
anonymous from United States
Fellas...after two days this chick said she loves me...
I should have known this was a trick....or a scamm
she used the old Irina and James speal on me...
gives presedence to the old addage...'if its too good to be true'
'it probaly is'' damn...I thought my sexy ship had finally come in
Keywords: brunette black top white shorts at night
anonymous from United States
Follow-up to Eddie's post:
As soon as you determine the IP is from Amsterdam, or US, hold your nerves. Do not immediately fire your anger in the wrong direction.
The fact is the scammer does not live at these locations, for he would be sent to prison. The cowardly scammer is simply hiding behind servers at these locations....But for how long? /O
'S' from United States
Guess the ship sank huh? If you come back anon,post more info,Full name and e-mail addy at least!
Eddie from Sweden
actually, the above 'anon from Sweden' post is not mine. LMAO.
For one thing I'm definitely not a 'computer geek'....and for another I would never call dating scammers 'phishers' because that's something completely different. Phishers scam for bank account numbers using spam mails. Most dating scammers scam for ticket/visa money. I also sign my posts.
Otherwise the information our anon Swedish friend has posted is very valid. But I'm not quite sure why he would think 'American users should probably be aware that this isn't a direct attack at America at all'.
The scammers use an extractor to collect email addresses, ie they're not fussy who they write to. Only a complete newbie would think otherwise.
However, I read a scammer's comments on a Russian scam chat site, and some of them partly justify their crimes by claiming that they are just stealing back the money that Americans stole from them in the 90s (the oligarchs that helped dismantle the Soviet state being in cahoots with American capitalists of course.)
PS most of the Russian dating scammers hail from the area around Mariy El republic, eg. Yoshktar Ola, Cheboksary, Kazan, sometimes as far east as Samara and Chelyabinsk.
OJAS from United States
To both Sverige
Sorry for mistaken identity - No identity theft intended on my part.
I just CAN'T justify their reasoning it was 'our fault'!? WE didn't steal their money OR cause the collapse! I think THEY did it all on their own! We may have instigated it BUT,Greed is one likely path...Besides,would they be able to do what they're doing under the old regime? I think NOT!
E,I knew it wasn't you!
She's not there...
anonymous from Canada
'can we be friends or even more?'
Well, heres another to add to your list. I always ask myself in every situation; 'What' behind the curtain?' It is obvious with a little research on this site that this is a scam to try and extort money out of individuals. Here are some images and a letter that was sent to me. She goes by the name Ekaterina - from Russia. Sound familiar?
Hello from PRETTY!!! It was very nice to receive a message from you!
it is my first time I try to correspondence with man in internet world.
I do hope you will be enough patient to understand my writing.
I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I don`t have
big secrets. The thing is that I will work abroad for three months or
so and I would
like to meet a nice man to be my guideor just be good friend to spend
time with.I think that it is
hard enough to live in foreign town without friends and also I have
never been abroad. I am from so small
town here in Rusian Federation,I am afraid to be lost.
I want to see real life and it is impossible to see without
person who knows all sides of the life. It doesn`t matter what age is
he or what is his eyes color, I just want to know that he is kind and
I don't want to live in Rusian Federation because I have not any
is hardly possible to explain it by the first time but I want you to
know my plans. In Ru ssia many young girls also want to start a new
life abroad, so
many of them used a special program 'W ork and travel' for young people
who wants to
work abroad. I also decided to do so and to use it. This program just
register documents and gives suitable work in any state(town)of USA,
Canada or Europa (or other big
country) . I just need to choose.I already started to register
documents and now I need to decide in which city I want to work.
I`m 25 years old and I`m not afraid of work (I shall work as the seller
in shop or cafe of a fast food).
I think it is the right way for me, I am lost here, and I think that I
look pretty enough
to find a better place. I never been abroad so I decided to find a
friend abroad and make his
city to be my destination. I want to repeat the same way,it is my only
chance to change my life.
I am full of plans and different dreams.
I have light brown hair and grey-blue eyes. I think I look very good,
first of all I want to be beautiful inside.
I do hope that you will be not disappointed to meet me in the real
life if we will meet.
Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
I will leave my town in a few days or so (I can't tell you everything
exactly right now) and I would like to
be sure that I have a man who waits for me there. I will work all day
and I would like to find a man to spend all free time together to get
to know each other better.
if you have any interest to meet me I will be more than happy to meet
you too. My be it sounds silly but I just don't want to be alone in the
evenings,and I want to be sure in advance that somebody waits for me!
I think that my e-mail starts to be too long so I will tell you all
details about me and my life that you would like to know in next
e-mails if you will like my
pictures and will want to meet me! I send my different photos.
On one I with my sister, and on others I on walk in a wood.
By the way, this email@example.com is my personal e-mail adress, so
pls write me here ok?
With best regards Ekaterina (this is my real name)! This image was also posted here: Dating scammer Tatyana Davydova Dating scammer Tatyana Davydova Dating scammer Tatyana Davydova
'S' from United States
Hmmm,Never saw her pic's before!? Are you gonna keep working this one?
anonymous from United States
Wonder how a scammer in Russia would ''justify'' targetting countries like Switzerland, India, South Africa, China, Brazil to name just a few.