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Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 5


Letter 21:

Hi my Dear Peter. How are you doing, how your mood today? I am glad to
receive  from  you the letter. Forgive for my absence yesterday. Thank
for  your pictures which you have sent me! They very amusing. I think,
that you are beautiful and with a long hairdress. I do not think, that
we can be disappointed in each other if we want to meet. I understand,
that  you  met women who could disappoint you earlier. Thanks for that
you  have  told to me about your last relations. I understand, that it
demanded  from you some efforts! I appreciate it. I like that you have
not  lost  love  to a life, after that that you had to go through! You
could  find  in  yourselves  forces  to live further and have not lost
ability  to love. Reading your letters, I see, that you love a life in
all its displays. You the gentle, kind and optimistical person. And me
in  one  thousand times it is more pleasant that you love me! You have
asked  me  about,  whether  always I lived to Kazan. You have asked me
concerning  my  family. Yes at me it is a lot of relatives in Kazan. I
have  cousins and sisters who live here. Closest of them is my cousine
who  lives  near  to me. her call Marina. We with her are very similar
against  each  other. I already sent you a picture, where we together.
In  Kazan  basically  there live relatives on my mum. Relatives on the
daddy live in the city of Volgograd. You heard about this city? During
the second world war this city has been completely destroyed, and then
is anew constructed. And also I have many relatives across all Russia.
For  example, I have aunt Klava who lives in the north of Siberia! she
such  cheerful  woman  and yearly arrives therefrom to visit us. It is
very  good,  that  you practise Russian! Perhaps we can soon talk with
each  other  in  Russian!:-) By the way, about your question. I think,
that I can visit you in America! I need some time to be prepared. I to
you  have  small  question. How for a long time you are going to be in
Germany?  When you will arrive back? Well, my dear Peter. I need to go
now. I hope will soon receive your answer.

My kisses and embraces.

                                      Yours Barbi.


Letter 22:

Hi  my  Dear Peter. I am glad, that your businesses go well. I wish to
you  well  to  spend  time  by  the sea. By the way, you can send me a
telephone  number,  on which I can call to you. I shall call to you. I
do  not want to deliver of inconveniences to somebody. You can send me
a  telephone number of your parents and I shall be and To use the
public telephone and to call to you.

              DREAM - THAT YOUR HEART MAKES
              And WISHES MAY COME TRUE,
              In MY HIGH TEMPERATURE - it IS a lot OF WISHES,
              ALL DREAMS I DREAM Of YOU.

              DREAM-, WHEN YOUR DREAM
              And the WISH In YOUR HEART,
              I WISH, THAT THIS DREAM WOULD BE FINISHED
              And COMING TRUE BEGAN.

              NOW - TIME FOR IMAGINATIONS
              FILLED with LOVE And HOPE,
              RICH With OPPORTUNITIES
              And DREAMING OUTSIDE OF OPPORTUNITIES

              FROM MORTAL SUCH AS YOU And I
              TIME, HAPPY EVER the AMBASSADOR,
              EXPECTATION of OTHER TIME
              FROM LIGHT And LAUGHTER

              SOMETIME I SHALL GO HAVING UNDERTAKEN FOR HANDS
              And NEAR TO YOU
              WE SHALL PROVE DESIRE, which HEART MAKES
              REALLY MAY COME TRUE.


I  continue  to  dream of you each day. By the way, pass your daddy my
most sincere congratulations! I want, to wish to him strong health and
long years of life!

My kisses and embraces.

                                      Yours Barbi.

Letter 23:

Hi  my  Dear  Peter. I hope, that you have well carried out your time.
When  you  told  to me about the girl with whom spent time, I was very
jealous!  I have not absolutely understood, that you meant, when spoke
about  a  photo  of me in a computer. I have understood, that you want
that  I  have sent the photo where I am represented with a computer. I
send you such photo.

My kisses and embraces.

                                      Yours Barbi.

Letter 24:

Hi  my  lovely!  It is pleasant for me to read your words. I have come
today  to the girlfriend and was glad will receive your letter. I some
days  did  not  visit  the  girlfriend.  I am glad to receive from you
already 3 letters! How has passed your travel? You have well got home.
I am not upset concerning that girl. She and truly learned Russian? It
is  very  interesting.  You and truly learn Russian? Interestingly and
what  your  successes? What can you write to me in Russian? It is good
idea  to  speak. I think, that it will be very good. You could tell to
me  a  pair  of  phrases in Russian. I am glad to learn , that you are
ready  to  accept me in the house. Thank, that you trust me , my dear.
Peter,  I want to tell to you that in the past the message I wanted to
check,  as far as seriously you treat to me . Forgive for this lovely,
but you should understand me. For me was it is very important to know,
whether  you  will agree to accept me in the the house whether or not.
If you insisted, that we met somewhere in hotel or in the other place,
-  that  to  me  should to think, what not you want to play host to me
because  you  have  the wife or or you not it is serious enough to me,
and  you  want  to  meet me for an entertainment. It check - was small
precaution.  I heard, that many people get acquainted to have only sex
with the new person, though in the structure inform, that have serious
intentions.  Now  I  am  sure  in  you  Peter, and I am glad, that you
appeared really that the person whom I want to meet! Loved, I with big
pleasure, I shall carry out at you some days. These days I shall reach
in agency of travel and to receive the information for that , to reach
to  you  the next month. I shall inform you for detail about it in the
following  e-mail.  I  wait  your  messages.  I of you adore mine dear
Peter! My kisses!!!

                                          Yours Barbi.


Letter 25:

Hi  my  dear! I am glad to your message and thank, that you understand
me  .  You  are,  one  of  those few people Peter, in which I can find
understanding.  How  has passed your day dear? I hope, that at you all
OK!  I have some news to you Peter. Today I had telephone conversation
with agency of travel. They have told, that to receive the visa of the
tourist in your country difficultly, but they, probably can to help me
in  it.  The  agent  did  not  begin  to  discuss a detail and we have
appointmented  tomorrow.  Tomorrow  I shall meet them and to discuss a
question  with the visa. I hope, lovely, that all will be - OK. I have
some  excitement  concerning all it, but also I have firm intention to
meet  you  dear! Therefore any difficulties and charges of money, will
not  stop  me.  Write to me, yours messages, dear, give me many forces
and energy. My gentle kisses.

                                              Yours Barbi.



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2007-09-15, 03:44:52
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from Washington, United States ....oopss...seems the scammer got his form mails out of sequence...LMAO

yes, of course 'she's' a scam. Can you imagine a girl this pretty would be looking for a partner on the internet?

for future reference, here is some general information about Russian dating scammers, gleaned fom personal experience, research, two trips to Russia in 12 months, sponsoring two girls to visit me in Sweden, and a Russian fiancée.

If several or more of these criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshtar Ola, Mari-El Republic, with a bunch of other sleazy guys, spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, etc). Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first!
# scammers rarely have children, but all the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important in Russia.
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise (overuse?). A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a photo set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her. On the other hand, not having a landline or a computer is quite common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes everyday in English (how does she have time if she's working? + most Russians can hardly speak a word of English). Anyway, what's the point of finding a girl if you can't communicate with her, at least on a basic level?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger, otherwise why does she have a non-cyrillic email account?

MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, but IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY! She can get a sponsored visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. These are the rules in the Schengen countries, and the USA and Canada is almost as complicated. Anyway, a normal tourist visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US, for example. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? At least be realistic.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.

There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional. There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers. One or two (mostly in the Ukraine) are not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot.

But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. and if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know, you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually lots of nice real Russian girls in Russia.

2007-09-15, 06:31:40
anonymous from France  
I’ve detected a new scammer, I think that behind this girl there is an organization, she asked to me 2500 euros for begin the sale from an apartment but I told her that I’ve not a such sum and I would a photo from her before the pyramid of Kazan, since she never answered me.

Polina Vyrupaeva, Kazan. Adress given by her: St. Lamina 16, app. 154 424031 Kazan.
Her mail is: polinalonely1975@yahoo.com



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2007-09-15, 07:39:40
anonymous from United Kingdom  
She a bitch she sucks you in im glad i seen this site she can drop dead man
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Dating scammer Wasilina Bazhina



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2007-09-15, 08:01:23
anonymous from United States  
Anon UK, it may not even be a ''she''

http://news.bbc.co...665667.stm
2007-09-15, 08:46:11
anonymous from United States  
Anon UK 2007-09-15, 07:39:40

It may not even be a ''She''

http://news.bbc.co...665667.stm
2007-09-16, 03:34:34
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from France

Thanks for posting. 'she asked to me 2500 euros for begin the sale from an apartment.' This is a new approach that I haven't heard before. The visa/tickets scam can't be working as well any more.

But did you not read my previous message?!! the girl is 99% probably NOT involved in the scam. most pictures are stolen from the internet. The scammers buy or exchange them from each other. Most of the russian dating scammers work out of Mari El republic, a very poor area of Russia, east of Moscow, where scamming is more or less a cottage industry. It is all very organized. Most of them also use a SOCKS server and GPRS internet to hide their location. Hence they say that they are in Kazan, but really they are in the Yoshtar Ola area. There are also isolated scammers outside this area, and also quite a lot in the Ukraine.

2007-09-16, 14:13:04
anonymous from United States  
Anon UK 2007-09-15, 07:39:40

The girl in the pic may not even know this

http://news.bbc.co...665667.stm
2007-09-17, 09:28:50
anonymous from United States  
I too got the messages from 'Anna'- single9r9abbit@yahoo.com with the same pics of course.
Must have plenty of patience and time to kill for these scammers, got up to letter 8 before asking for money :P

Basicly the same as everyone else has posted here with slight altereations. I played along to drag it out and kept getting responses, as all others here, that had no real connnection to the replies I sent.
Do these people have no brains? or do the assume we have none?

I will admit straight out, no way in hell am I going to get the interest of a girl that looks like that, not gonna happen! Searched for this site first thing. Yes part of me wanted to believe, it's a hot chick hitting on you, of course you want it to be true, but don't fool yourself. They can only scam as much as we let them get away with. Thanks for all the great input here, and a ton of laughs at some of the stupid stuff they pulled.
2007-09-17, 10:58:42   (updated: 2007-09-17, 10:59:52)
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from United States 2007-09-17, 09:28:50

that's a great post! you hit the nail on the head. 'part of me wanted to believe, it's a hot chick hitting on you'...or a young, desperate chick. Sadly, lots of guys don't think with their brains, for one reason or another...ego? loneliness? It's what the scammers rely on. A lonely guy with money to spare who's not thinking straight. And you're right about scammers having no brains. If they did, they wouldn't be wasting their lives as petty criminals.

Unfortunately, many potential scam victims don't find this site until it's too late. And even when they do, they don't take the time to read the threads properly. but others find us in time and save themselves a lot of money.
2007-09-19, 06:48:23
anonymous from India  
I you look at the Qualification certificate posted above bears the title OPICENTER and date 24. Look at this where she has changed the name as Liudmila. The photo of same certificate i am enclosing here is compressed by me. Actual size is same as referrred above


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2007-09-19, 06:53:42
anonymous from India  
I you look at the Qualification certificate posted above bears the title OPICENTER and date 24. Look at this where she has changed the name as Liudmila. The photo of same certificate i am enclosing here is compressed by me. Actual size is same as referrred above. THIS IS UNCOMPRESSED. Other mail address used by her initially is 'Osvaldo Flynn' a-4a@acsla.com


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2007-09-19, 07:15:57
anonymous from India  

She (!) sent her first mail as 'Osvaldo Flynn' a-4a@acsla.com. If we log on to
http://www.sparkpeo..&last=520
then we find Osvaldo name gender is male !!!! So is tha SCAM initiated by a male????
2007-09-20, 05:05:20
anonymous from United States  
rating
I have no intention of being scammed by this, but it's getting very much more sophisticated and I wanted to wrn people who are heart-driven (or lower), rather than head-driven, that there is jsut no way a strange beautiful women is going to show up at the airport.
:)

Enclosed is a passport.


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2007-09-20, 11:39:29
O from United States  
Anon US 2007-09-20, 05:05:20

Enjoyed your post, both style and substance! Hope your time will permit more contributions! :-))
2007-09-23, 05:37:48
anonymous from Australia  
Has anyone seen this young lady from Kirov in russia? Well she is an absolute beauty, in fact too good to be true


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