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Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 5


Letter 21:

Hi my Dear Peter. How are you doing, how your mood today? I am glad to
receive  from  you the letter. Forgive for my absence yesterday. Thank
for  your pictures which you have sent me! They very amusing. I think,
that you are beautiful and with a long hairdress. I do not think, that
we can be disappointed in each other if we want to meet. I understand,
that  you  met women who could disappoint you earlier. Thanks for that
you  have  told to me about your last relations. I understand, that it
demanded  from you some efforts! I appreciate it. I like that you have
not  lost  love  to a life, after that that you had to go through! You
could  find  in  yourselves  forces  to live further and have not lost
ability  to love. Reading your letters, I see, that you love a life in
all its displays. You the gentle, kind and optimistical person. And me
in  one  thousand times it is more pleasant that you love me! You have
asked  me  about,  whether  always I lived to Kazan. You have asked me
concerning  my  family. Yes at me it is a lot of relatives in Kazan. I
have  cousins and sisters who live here. Closest of them is my cousine
who  lives  near  to me. her call Marina. We with her are very similar
against  each  other. I already sent you a picture, where we together.
In  Kazan  basically  there live relatives on my mum. Relatives on the
daddy live in the city of Volgograd. You heard about this city? During
the second world war this city has been completely destroyed, and then
is anew constructed. And also I have many relatives across all Russia.
For  example, I have aunt Klava who lives in the north of Siberia! she
such  cheerful  woman  and yearly arrives therefrom to visit us. It is
very  good,  that  you practise Russian! Perhaps we can soon talk with
each  other  in  Russian!:-) By the way, about your question. I think,
that I can visit you in America! I need some time to be prepared. I to
you  have  small  question. How for a long time you are going to be in
Germany?  When you will arrive back? Well, my dear Peter. I need to go
now. I hope will soon receive your answer.

My kisses and embraces.

                                      Yours Barbi.


Letter 22:

Hi  my  Dear Peter. I am glad, that your businesses go well. I wish to
you  well  to  spend  time  by  the sea. By the way, you can send me a
telephone  number,  on which I can call to you. I shall call to you. I
do  not want to deliver of inconveniences to somebody. You can send me
a  telephone number of your parents and I shall be and To use the
public telephone and to call to you.

              DREAM - THAT YOUR HEART MAKES
              And WISHES MAY COME TRUE,
              In MY HIGH TEMPERATURE - it IS a lot OF WISHES,
              ALL DREAMS I DREAM Of YOU.

              DREAM-, WHEN YOUR DREAM
              And the WISH In YOUR HEART,
              I WISH, THAT THIS DREAM WOULD BE FINISHED
              And COMING TRUE BEGAN.

              NOW - TIME FOR IMAGINATIONS
              FILLED with LOVE And HOPE,
              RICH With OPPORTUNITIES
              And DREAMING OUTSIDE OF OPPORTUNITIES

              FROM MORTAL SUCH AS YOU And I
              TIME, HAPPY EVER the AMBASSADOR,
              EXPECTATION of OTHER TIME
              FROM LIGHT And LAUGHTER

              SOMETIME I SHALL GO HAVING UNDERTAKEN FOR HANDS
              And NEAR TO YOU
              WE SHALL PROVE DESIRE, which HEART MAKES
              REALLY MAY COME TRUE.


I  continue  to  dream of you each day. By the way, pass your daddy my
most sincere congratulations! I want, to wish to him strong health and
long years of life!

My kisses and embraces.

                                      Yours Barbi.

Letter 23:

Hi  my  Dear  Peter. I hope, that you have well carried out your time.
When  you  told  to me about the girl with whom spent time, I was very
jealous!  I have not absolutely understood, that you meant, when spoke
about  a  photo  of me in a computer. I have understood, that you want
that  I  have sent the photo where I am represented with a computer. I
send you such photo.

My kisses and embraces.

                                      Yours Barbi.

Letter 24:

Hi  my  lovely!  It is pleasant for me to read your words. I have come
today  to the girlfriend and was glad will receive your letter. I some
days  did  not  visit  the  girlfriend.  I am glad to receive from you
already 3 letters! How has passed your travel? You have well got home.
I am not upset concerning that girl. She and truly learned Russian? It
is  very  interesting.  You and truly learn Russian? Interestingly and
what  your  successes? What can you write to me in Russian? It is good
idea  to  speak. I think, that it will be very good. You could tell to
me  a  pair  of  phrases in Russian. I am glad to learn , that you are
ready  to  accept me in the house. Thank, that you trust me , my dear.
Peter,  I want to tell to you that in the past the message I wanted to
check,  as far as seriously you treat to me . Forgive for this lovely,
but you should understand me. For me was it is very important to know,
whether  you  will agree to accept me in the the house whether or not.
If you insisted, that we met somewhere in hotel or in the other place,
-  that  to  me  should to think, what not you want to play host to me
because  you  have  the wife or or you not it is serious enough to me,
and  you  want  to  meet me for an entertainment. It check - was small
precaution.  I heard, that many people get acquainted to have only sex
with the new person, though in the structure inform, that have serious
intentions.  Now  I  am  sure  in  you  Peter, and I am glad, that you
appeared really that the person whom I want to meet! Loved, I with big
pleasure, I shall carry out at you some days. These days I shall reach
in agency of travel and to receive the information for that , to reach
to  you  the next month. I shall inform you for detail about it in the
following  e-mail.  I  wait  your  messages.  I of you adore mine dear
Peter! My kisses!!!

                                          Yours Barbi.


Letter 25:

Hi  my  dear! I am glad to your message and thank, that you understand
me  .  You  are,  one  of  those few people Peter, in which I can find
understanding.  How  has passed your day dear? I hope, that at you all
OK!  I have some news to you Peter. Today I had telephone conversation
with agency of travel. They have told, that to receive the visa of the
tourist in your country difficultly, but they, probably can to help me
in  it.  The  agent  did  not  begin  to  discuss a detail and we have
appointmented  tomorrow.  Tomorrow  I shall meet them and to discuss a
question  with the visa. I hope, lovely, that all will be - OK. I have
some  excitement  concerning all it, but also I have firm intention to
meet  you  dear! Therefore any difficulties and charges of money, will
not  stop  me.  Write to me, yours messages, dear, give me many forces
and energy. My gentle kisses.

                                              Yours Barbi.



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2007-09-23, 07:59:44
anonymous from United States  
Well, Liudmila sent this to me today:

XXXX hello,Glad to say that I am all right. You know I am in Moscow now

and I think I have made almost the half of my trip.

To be fair I am tired, everything is not so easy like I thought. It is

hard enough busineess because of so many barriers on this way. I want

you to know that you can't imagine how glad I am to know that you want to meet me,

it helps me to be strong. Well,about my news.I was in travel agency today,

nearest possible flight is Friday September 28

Pls tell me if this date is ok for you to meet me??

I hope you will have some free time to spend with me!!

Here is the info, about my flight, that I was given in travagency:




-----------------------------------------------------




Information for Liudmila Klasson

'World - Travel', Stepan Kaltays. 129090 Moscow, Gilyarovskogo street 4, office 102.




Please use our service .

Best regards.Manager - Stepan Kaltays




Air France

AF 2545 Sheremetyevo (SVO), Moscow, Russian Federation

Terminal 2 07:15

Charles De Gaulle (CDG), Paris, France

Terminal 2B 09:15

Air France

AF 374 Charles De Gaulle (CDG), Paris, France

Terminal 2C 10:30

Detroit Metro (DTW), Detroit, Michigan, USA

Terminal EM 13:05




Price: USD 1250.00+ Round trip tickets. Eco.cl.




------------------------------------------------- --




I am so glad to see that we are almost near our goal,and our meeting

wait for us. I think I will call you from airport before my flight.

You know I booked tickets on Friday September 28 flight and I will buy them before

my intervew. People from embassy must be sure that I am not going to stay illegally,

so I need to buy roundtrip tickets (with returning date).

I wanted to ask you about electronic tickets but they tell that

I can't use because it is their businees to arrange all travel details

and they have some extra money from all the things,

you see it is just business.I think that you will be able to help me

because I don't know anybody here and only you are my hope now,

I think everything in your hands and I believe that you will not leave

me here alone.please borrow some money. I am sure I will be able to return all your money

back after a few weeks, I will get salary and I will collect the sum I own from you.

To be fair I am not sure I know what to say because I hate to ask but

now I have no different way, you see.Please help me it is only money

and much more important if we will meet in person I will do my

best, you won`t be disappoined. I see that it sounds a little crazy

but I can't believe that in the worst case I have to return

home,they all will laugh at me.I think it rests with you to decide and I feel that

you will help me because you are kind. I have about 400 US dollars yet and I think

I need about 850 US dollars from your side with all travel needs and living here till my

flight! (I had 1150 dollars, but flight from Krasnoyarsk, opening visa, medical

insurance and all travel needs costed about 700 dollars).

For truth I didn`t expect I will need to buy roundtrip tickets, but now

I see that its a very strict rule.If everything will be all right between us

I can stay with you longer than three months,maximum Ican stay about 6 months for first time!

We should change only the date of my returning flight.and if you don't

like me I will live in rent room and won't bother you

and money is money I will return it back in any case.I so much hope

that you will help me. My parents gave me all they had.

Thank you in advance. Maybe i look like the poor outsider but I do hope

you understand my position because it is always there is anybody who needs the help.

I will call you from airport and I will wait for you there as

long as you need,I mean if you need any time to arrive in airport.it is

not problem for me to wait because I know that it is the end of

my trip and I have time to improve my condition(some perfume)after long

jorney. I want you to see me in good shape!

Kiss you and do hope to kiss you in person so soon. We need to do it

pretty fast,you know I ordered all my documents in advance and

you see everything is ready so fast I need only your help because

we have no a lot of time till my intervew,

if everything will be all right I will be on this flight!

They have told me that you could make a transfer by Western Union or MoneyGram. The

manager from the bank explained to me how system works.

All you need is my name and my surname and address to put on their

list. Once you do this, I'll be able to pickup the money in any

local Western Unuion or MoneyGram office in Moscow.




My address here (the room i am renting)

Country : Russia, City : Moscow,

Address : Polkovaya 22 - 8, post code (zip) 127018

Full Name Liudmila Klasson(right writting in English)




In case you will need my passport details I send you a copy of my passport.

After it please write me money transfer control number and I will go to

nearest office of western union (or moneygram) with my identification (passport).

Honey I am so happy that we will be together in a few days and I have

so many different dreams about us and our first kiss and .....some of my dreams are

so brave i will tell you later when we meet I prefer to say such things

in person and I am sure we will have a lot of fun.

I'm sure we will like each other and we can probably stay together

forever! I will prolong my visa or apply for a green card!

Sorry my parents are paying for the education of my sister, they helped

me as much as they could.

OK! Everybody has difficulties in it's life! You know maybe women in

Russia (and me too!) are not that world oriented...

I don't know how to explain... I've never made any trips abroad... I

don't have such experience. I come from a small city.

I'm not a feminist girl, I'm ready to listen to my man and do

everything he tells me. Maybe I'm too old traditioned? I don't know...

I'm sure you will help me and we will meet each other and

have a great time together! When I come to you I will listen to your advises and I will do

everything you tell me! You are such good man! Liudmila with great hope and many kisses



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2007-09-27, 16:17:30
anonymous from Greece  



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2007-09-30, 07:32:16
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Is this girl a scam ?


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2007-09-30, 10:17:37
anonymous from Mexico  
A girl like this would never be 'lonely' and 'looking for love' with a stranger.
Look at the photo, she must be a professional model.
Her picture must have been used without her permission. Scammers use beautiful girls like this for their purposes.
2007-09-30, 11:44:58
'S' from United States  
Definately a model pic! Can you post more info on 'her'? ie;
Name {Full if you have it}
E-mail addy
Anything else you may have, Where does 'she' claim to live/be from,home addy,the site you 'found' her on...

SNT...
2007-09-30, 13:46:07
OJAS from United States  
@newbies,

Someone sends a few beautiful pix and offers to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a ''mere'' 800 dollars. You aren't going to dash off to Western Union, fearing someone might outbid you for 850 dollars, right?

Obviously you're gonna start your homework in real earnest!
2007-10-01, 09:01:48   (updated: 2007-10-01, 09:05:09)
anonymous from Germany  

for me this was the best page to get a fast overview over lot of pictures in profiles,

some photosets or girls are to find in lot of different scammerprofiles

http://www.scammerlist.com


http://www.scammerl..st_2.html
http ://www.scammerlist.com/gal_fulllist_2.html
2007-10-01, 09:01:49
anonymous from Germany  

for me this was the best page to get a fast overview over lot of pictures in profiles,

some photosets or girls are to find in lot of different scammerprofiles

http://www.scammerlist.com
2007-10-01, 13:50:15
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from Germany ....good advice. But you know, after a couple of scammers have contacted you, it's really not that difficult to tell if you're writing to a real Russian girl.
2007-10-02, 09:41:03   (updated: 2007-10-02, 09:47:31)
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous 2007-10-02, 02:28:08

Spasibo for the information about skamerstvo! it is certainly very useful.

I think you will find similar information posted all over this website, including visa requirements for Russian nationals in Schengen countries and North America, and how to trace IP addresses to verify the location of the 'girl', plus very much more.....

but more is always better!!!!

PS...it's not only to the USA that scammers wish to 'travel'
PPS...i have met many real Russian girls on the internet...2 of them have visited me in Sweden and I have been to Russia twice in the past 12 months. One of the girls is now my fiancée and she has her residency interview at the Swedish embassy in Moscow tomorrow morning at 9am!!!
2007-10-02, 15:37:43
anonymous from Germany  
anon USA with Liudmila Klasson:
If you still follow this thread please post some more pics. The face looks famliar to me. Looks like a german actress in her younger days to me. /P
2007-10-03, 19:53:44
anonymous from United States  
hi ya i fell for the same scam but didn't lose $ cuz i decided to investigate she saysher name is maria from kazan same form letters thnx for the info tho save me some $ and headache


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2007-10-03, 20:21:53
anonymous from United States  
heres another pix of the so-called maria lutsenko and address ,Name: Maria
Surname: Lutsenko
The country: Russia
Zip code: 420073
City: Kazan
Street and number of a house: Kursk str. # 12



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2007-10-04, 03:06:57
Eddie from Sweden  
Hi guys!!
....to any newcomers who find this thread, via Google or whatever:

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS AND RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

If several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, Mari-El Republic, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first!
# scammers rarely have children, but most the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did. (except for Moscow career girls)
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls).
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise (overuse?). A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a photo set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting sleazy pics will only attract cheap guys.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her when you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a computer is quite common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes everyday in English (how does she have time if she's working? + most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English). Anyway, what's the point of finding a girl if you can't communicate with her, at least on a basic level? And if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger.

MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, but IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY! She can get a sponsored visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries...the USA and Canada are almost as complicated. Anyway, a normal tourist visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Be realistic.
NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.

There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional. There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers. One or two (mostly in the Ukraine) are not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot.

But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. And if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know, you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to go and get them. Chercher la femme. I did it.
2007-10-04, 12:46:46
anonymous from Czech Republic  
Well guys Maria Lutsenko also masquerades under the name of Olga Fominyh and she has obviously survived her so called Russian mafia friends who when she tried to scam me and I refused to bite the bullet used the trick of trying morale blackmail by telling me that she was in very serious trouble and owed these Chechins a large sum of money and if I didn't help her she would be killed!!!!!!! So I guess she has 9 lives since she used pict of cat and her yet now we are using a dog.

Address in Kazan was alledgedly str Korolenko D52A, Kazan 420012 and use email address of olgfox@gmail.com
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