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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-10-25, 11:03:55
IFR from United States  
Has anyone heard from Victoria Flegentova since Oct. 20?
2007-10-25, 11:20:06
G.SPOT@TESCO.NET from Brighton, United Kingdom  
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DAVE,WORCESTER ,UNITED KINGDOM.natashkadmi@rambler.ru SHE TRIED IT ON WITH ME GIVING IT LARGE.SHE THOUGHT SHE SCAMMED ME TELLING ME SHE WAS HAVING A VISA INTERVIEW AND NEEDED MONEY FOR THE HOTEL!!!! STUPID BITCH.AND GUESS WHAT SHE SAID SHE SHE LIVED ALONE AND SO ON.DON`T FUCK WITH THE BRITISH YOU RUSSIAN SCAMMERS!!!! E MAIL ME IF YOU WANT COPIES OF HER LETTTERS!THERE QUITE AMUSING
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2007-10-25, 12:23:26   (updated: 2007-10-25, 12:46:16)
OJAS from United States  
G.SPOT@TESCO.NET from Brighton, United Kingdom - GUARD YOUR GENEROSITY WITH YOUR OMNISCIENE!

@newbies who don't dread the ''H'' word:

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS AND RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
http://www.delphifa..?p=0#56897

US Embassy http://moscow.usemb..datingscam

Canadian Visa http://www.delphifa..?p=0#56706

Schengen http://www.bbc.co.u..2/A1146115
http://www.netherla..index.aspx http://www.eurovisa..tries.htm

Russian Visa Steps http://www.r-tg.com..t/20.html

Travel to Ukraine http://www.delphifa..=10#38245

Electrical Outlet Specifications http://www.yung-l. tm#europe
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@Oldbies, once in a while check these links as they may be
1) Removed from external pages
2) Removed by scammers from delphi
2007-10-25, 16:37:55
anonymous from Karben, Germany  
I'll never get any problems with scammers again, no, now I 've got yung's outlet specifications. I thank you so much.
2007-10-25, 17:18:12
OJAS from United States  
Anon von Karben, Deutschland
Bitte
Sure you don't want to travel to Yoshkar-Ola for some shocking experiece? :-)
2007-10-26, 02:25:43
anonymous from Eschborn, Germany  
Indeed I have seen some interesting touristic advertisement from Mari-El, but if I'll ever give the tourist again I'd prefer to visit the krai Perm, another federal subject in the volga region, or some other place where my new friends got relatives.
2007-10-26, 02:48:58
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from Eschborn, Germany

Kazan's worth a visit too, but don't bother with Ulyanovsk...unless you're a big Lenin fan!
2007-10-26, 05:48:48
gary from United States  
Eddie, on 10/24 you posted some sample letters written in Russian that you send to scammers, I copied and pasted one and sent it to my scammer, this ought to be interesting, :) Now I'm in the driver's seat, I've learned so much over the past week about scammers, visa's, how to meet a REAL Russian woman, this is a great site.
2007-10-26, 07:43:47
OJAS from United States  
Gary from US
You are a living proof that HOMEWORK PAYS!
Keep up the good homework :-)
2007-10-26, 17:01:06
Eddie from Sweden  
gary from United States

just as long you used the Latin alphabet version if you're writing to a yahoo or gmail address. If you're writing to a mail.ru or inbox.ru address etc, use the cyrillic. the english version was only so that you knew what you were sending.

The scammer will either ignore your mail (might happen if he doesn't read the mails) disappear completely, reply indignantly protesting his innocence....but if you're really lucky and the scammer's a bit cocky, you might send you a mail in Russian. That would certainly be interesting.

2007-10-27, 17:37:57
anonymous from France  
Hello. For about a month I've been exchanging emails with a girl from Russia. She writes long letters full of bad English. Each letter is almost the same as the one before.

To test, I wrote simply, 'You've got a wonderful pair of breasts, I'd love to kiss them'.

The next day's reply was the same as the ones before - long, no mention of my comment on her photo (I get a different photo with each letter, so I'm lucky)

My next letter was 'The world is flat'.

The next day's reply was the same as the ones before - long, no mention of my comment on her photo (I get a different photo with each letter, so I'm lucky)

So I wrote,' My life is hell, I'm going to slit my wrists I want to die.'

The next day's reply was the same as the ones before - long, no mention of my comment on her photo (I get a different photo with each letter, so I'm lucky)

I don't see why she continues.
2007-10-28, 13:10:52
IFR from United States  
User ID:77827
Name:Vika viktoriya
Email:Registered users only
Country:Russian Federation
Age:27
Gender:Female
   
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I wish to inform you a little on myself. Directly about me: My name - Vika. I have been born in July, 7th 1980. To me of 27 years. I live in Russia. I was never married, children I have no. I do not smoke, and I do not drink alcohol, I conduct a healthy way of life. Two times a week I go to a sports hall. I work as the agent of insurance. My hobby - I draw pictures. Most of all I like to draw the nature. I very much love summer, I love summer bright paints. It very much improves my mood. I love flowers, flower smells. If I interest you, please write to me letters on my box of mail.
Joined:2007-10-25 01:00:56     Last Updated:2007-10-25 01:00:56


Well....i be......shes back.....a load off my mind........watch out for this one....Victoria Flegentova. Raised from the dead.......Hail Mary ,Joseph, and God......
2007-10-28, 13:23:17   (updated: 2007-10-28, 13:29:32)
OJAS from United States  
''get a job in Russia'' - Yuri - (Page 115 present thraed)
''I wouldn't recommend working in Russia'' - Eddie

I now have enough albeit inconclusive post-homework info to disagree with both of you guys!

After reading about foreign petrolium engineers, foreigners on Amur tiger project, they like 3 year projects in Russia where some are treated much better than in their own country - [Seemingly supports Yuri]

A foreign missionary after one whole year of efforts in Russia has but 2 extra mormons to show for, is very critical of working with Russians [Seemingly supports Eddie]

Since I am interested in none of these areas, all I can say is some did their homework diligently BEFORE leaving for Russia. Some blame the hosts instead of themselves for inadequate homework.
2007-10-28, 13:46:49
IFR from United States  
2007-10-28, 20:56:51
IFR from United States  



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