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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-02-08, 18:58:23
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
WOW. What google can do...
2008-02-09, 03:42:24
anonymous  
Knadya7878@rambler.ru scamming


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2008-02-09, 03:44:28
anonymous  
Knadya7878@rambler.ru Hello my dear love!!! Hello my dear love!!!

My dear I cannot understand why you do not write to me!

Favourite mine tell, what with you happens?

Dear I love you and I do not wish you to lose!

Favourite mine for that time which I you know I has really grown fond of you!

The darling I shall wait from you for the answer soon!

Your love from Russia!

Loving you!

Yours Nadezhda!

My dear I cannot understand why you do not write to me!

Favourite mine tell, what with you happens?

Dear I love you and I do not wish you to lose!

Favourite mine for that time which I you know I has really grown fond of you!

The darling I shall wait from you for the answer soon!

Your love from Russia!

Loving you!

Yours Nadezhda!


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2008-02-09, 05:41:56
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
This girl was reported here (page 125 of this thread)

http://www.delphifa..tml?p=124

2008-02-09, 06:46:23
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
All,

Hit the Spambutton on the post of Anon from Norway (2008-02-09 o5:11:17), please. He wants his addie removed.

2008-02-09, 19:06:51
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Thanks, Tony (and all who helped).

Anonymous Pablo,

The addie kirieshka2008@gmail.com is discussed on a German site. You have to scroll a little, but it is there http://supergilles...cFAEIB6hD

2008-02-09, 21:22:08
anonymous from Philippines  
My dear,
It's mine pleasure to know how you are doing today?.
I believe all is well with you.
As for me iam doing well and i felt very happy reading your mail as i will
like to come over to meet with you immediately after the transsfer of my
money to your position for a better life.
My dear i prayed and fasted when i got your contact before it was revealed
to me by God that you are the right man for me who will love and cherish me
without minding our colour difference.
You can call me with this number 00221-76-468-39-98 in the church office and
you tell Rev Johnson Ekeh that you want to speak with me so that we can talk
more about ourselves.
My dear i want to come over to meet with you for the rest of my life as i
have seen that you are the right man for me and i will like you to help me
in the transfer of my 3.5 million dollars so that you can send me some money
to prepare my travling document to come over to meet with you for a better
life.
Honey i loved you so much and i can't wait to meet with you for the rest of
my life and iam looking towards that lovely day when i will be meeting with
you for the rest of my life after the transfer of my money to your position
so that you can send me some money to prepare my traveling documents to meet
with you for a better life.
My dear please i will like you to send an email to the bank today about the
possible transfer of my 3.5 million dollars deposited at TRIODOS BANK PLC
OF SCOTLAND which my name appears as the next of kin due to my refugee
status here in Senegal.
I have informed the bank about you and they are waiting for your email so
that they can transfer this money to your position for our lovely meeting.
Here is the contact information of the bank in Scotland where the money was
deposited by my late father is as follows,
TRIODOS BANK PLC OF SCOTLAND
NAME OF THE TRANSFER OFFICER IS MR OLIVER STOCKEN.
TELEPHONE NUMBER IS 00447014227539, 00447014227542, 00442070601042
FAX NUMBER +44 709-280-4174
Already i have informed this bank about my intention to claim my late
father's deposit of which my name appears as the next of kin. The only thing
the bank told me is to look for a foreign partner who will assiat me in the
transfer due
to my refugee status here in Senegal,as a refugee i am not allowed direct
claim of the money but through an appointed representative as the united
refugee law governing refugee all over the world states.
Based on this information i will like you to send an email to the transfer
department of the bank today with this email
address(transfer@triodosbplc.com)
Attentioned Mr Oliver Stocken the foreign transfer officer of the bank
telling him that you are my representative and that you want to assist me
transfer my 3.5 million dollars deposited by late father of which iam the
next of kin after which you call me on phone today.
THE ACCOUNT INFORMATION ARE AS FOLLOWS.
ACCOUNT NAME IS DR DANIEL FAB
AMOUNT 3.5MILLION DOLLARS.
NEXT OF KIN MISS DANILLA FAB

God bless you as you do this today,


i am currently receiving emails from a certain gir name danilla fab.. please be careful with this scammers,


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2008-02-10, 05:01:14
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-02-10, 16:16:30
anonymous from Australia  

Does anyone know this girl...
My name is Amy Seun David, i live in ennis Texas.I'm a 28yrs old girl,the only child of my deceased parents..i lost them in a fatal accident way back in the States...i was born and bred in australia before I moved to the states,coz my mom is from the states while my dad is an aussie, i relocated to Tx couple of months ago with the help of my best friend Sandra who offered me to come live with her when my aunts husband tried sleeping with me and she also introduced me to create a profile hopefully to help me in my search for the right man for me..i read your profile and i love to know more about you.i am looking for a very serious relationship and someone to be with me for the rest of my life,I am a young event packager who knows what she wants and who do not depend in others.

I am romantic. I hate violence, especially towards a weaker person I respect my fellow beings and their opinions
I hate dishonesty
I almost always smile (even in the morning). It takes a lot to get me in a bad mood
I am considered to be quite funny and entertaining.
I never forget the wrong people do to my friend and me
I am very emotional, so when startled, outbreaks of anger of short duration may happen and shouldn't be taken overly serious.
Because I am spontaneous I sometimes do not think of the consequences of my actions that is what I can think of in a short time.
On my spare time I love going to the beach, movies, theater and museum etc.
I love sports too and I play tennis although it has been long now I play it.
I am also into target practice with hand guns and bows{funny isn't it}. I have not spent much time with the archery but I want to. Photography.... I enjoy portrait work, architecture and abstract.

i was really happy when i got your profile and it was a lucky spin for me on the dating site, I'm currently in Africa to package an event for the motherless babies 50th anniversary ,event packaging is just a way of organizing events professionally and i chose to come with my friend because i needed to reach the children and make them understand that there is more to this life even without your parents..I've been here for over 3 weeks and i'll be getting back to the US in less than 6days as soon as i get paid here so i could secure a return ticket back to the US..i am sorry we are meeting on this note but i believe all things work together for good,i hope one day we will meet or probably chat on the computer or get better acquainted through constant email messaging before i come back to the US.pls send me an email and tell me more about you or hopefully we continue the love story so we could get better acquainted and see where it goes or i probably call you when i get back to the US i.e if you choose not to continue because I'm far away at the moment...
I hope that gives a better impression about the person who I am.I'd really love to continue but i cant write much because I am using the hotels computer here.
I am not Searching for a man that i can live with, I am Searching For The man That i Cannot Live Without.
Looking forward to hearing from you.My picture is attached below with is one i took on the bed and i hope you will like it.
cheers
Amy

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2008-02-10, 16:20:20
anonymous from Australia  

Does anyone know this girl
How are you doing today?David i see you are a communicative person,

me too(smile)i and want to ask you one question?What are you looking

here in the net?What do you want to find?I think it is important to know

what both of us are expecting from this correspondence. hope you share my

opinion.I will be waiting for your letter ands some photos of you(smile).

Warmly Irina







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2008-02-10, 16:24:03
anonymous from Australia  
Hello

I want to meet only one man and spend the rest of my life with him.

I believe that on the Earth there is a man that my second part and

he is waiting for me somewhere:)

And i'll find him and then never let him go.It's very hard to live and

to be happy when your heart is empty.Love it feeling that people can;t

live without,but of course sometimes it brings a lot of pain,but

anyway we need it as air for to breath.

so that's why i am here:)

I'm very tender,kind,polite,intelligent.I want to find man who could

appreciate all this qualities that i have and would give me love and

tenderness in return. if so i am sure that we would find big true love

once and forever,i believe in this,and you?do you believe that you

can find woman that you would love ,respect and even wouldn't have

desire for to find another or somebody just for sex?

i hope we would find common language and i would be very glad that you

are person whom i have been searched for:)

The Internet gives me a huge opportunity to understand if you are.

No matter

that we live in different countries,and we speak different languages.

I think it is not a problem because we looking for happiness.And i'm

sure we will find him.By the way i speak english and write you without

any help:)of course it's not so good as i wish it to be ,but i hope

that you understand what i am writing without big problems:)

So now i want to tell you little about me.

My name is Nadya, I am 28. My height is 1.68 m,my weigh is 53. I was born in a

very good

and caring family.I live in Kirovsk (Ukraine),as for me it is a very beautiful

town and people there are very friendly ,actually it's very small and

not so good developed but i like to live here,I love it very much.

I am work as a hairdresser.I like my profession.It's a big pleasure to

make people more beautiful and to show their souls with help of

hairstyle,so when i see result i have big smile on my face,but of

course it's very hard work,because i haven;t possibility to sit down

and to let my legs to rest:)almost whole day i spend on my legs.

In the evening when I feel lonely I like reading poetry or watch good

films. but i am not big fan of tv,there are a lot of boring things for

example soap-operas:)i don;t like them:)

i adore animals but unfortunately i haven;t pet because i haven;t time

for to look after them.

also i like to grow up home flowers and plans , and i am good

cooker,i haven;t doubts about it:)so if you are my prince i promise

you would never be hungry:)

welli think it's enough for the first time,

i hope you are still interesting in me and maybe more then before:)

so if you wish to continue and to know me better-i will wait for your

reply!

have a nice day !

I give you a small and tender kiss:)

Yours Nadya.







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2008-02-10, 16:27:55
anonymous from Australia  
Marsha from Russia.. Does anyone know her..


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2008-02-10, 16:28:49
anonymous from Australia  
More Marsha from russia
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2008-02-10, 18:58:55   (updated: 2008-02-10, 19:05:00)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Anon Australia,

The girl you posted as Irina (2008-02-10 16:20:20) is a famous soft-pornstar: Alison Angel. Google her name, and you will get tons of 'info' on her. Have fun, googling.

http://www.alisonangel.com/

http://nl.youtube.c..BmBio5RVE

2008-02-10, 19:18:01   (updated: 2008-02-10, 19:18:33)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
On the first one you posted (Amy Seun David). The real Amy is in or from South Africa...

http://archiver.roo..183330088

Or in West Africa (Nigeria)...

http://www.pdsoros...year=2003

The other girls I don't know (pity).
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