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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-03-29, 17:24:43
peterclare@blueyonder.co.uk from United Kingdom  
Re: Dating scammer Kasaya / Natalia ?

Been asking for her address on a number of occasions:

Actually recieved it the other day>
Natalia Kovalchuk

The address: Russia, Tatarstan, Nizhnekamsk, 603022, Lenin's prospectus 98, apartments 45

HOWEVER, The postal index's for Nizhnekamsk are 423550, 423554, 423570, 423574, 423580: Got these from some local Petrol-chemical and other local buisness addresses:

The part of the address [603022, Lenin's prospectus 98, apartments 45] matches someone elses on the site>

''Ekaterina Datskova - 603022, Lenin's prospectus 98
apartment 45, Nizhni Novgorod, Russia''

But that is a city a long distance away.

JUST A BIT OF INTERESTING INFORMATION

Peter


2008-03-30, 04:57:31
anonymous from Australia  
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Alex from Tent hill Aus, follow the advice from Peter as above. Chances are about 99.9% that this person is trying to scam you, If you truly want a Russian girl you will have to find a reputable dating site and contact the girl first. Any respectable Russian girl will wait for YOU to contact her first and then you mustbe prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. There is NO other way. Best of luck, if you follow the advice from this site you cannot go wrong.
Cheers Mad Mick
2008-03-30, 06:33:54
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Alex

Appreciate comment.

However I wasn't even looking for a Russian girl: I assume this started when I was playing about with a Polish steam railway site: The first e-mail from this person was a complete supprise. I gingerly answered it with a Hello, not expecting anything back.

And there you go!

Too tight to be giving anything away anyway.

The progression of the situation I find interseting.

Regards

Peter
2008-03-30, 11:00:23
youtubeda@live.nl from Netherlands  
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Hey guys..

This lady name (Latifa Adah) somtimes Adeola and now on Skype whit the name Latifa Adarola.

Very becareful of this lady cause she only want you send money for a ticket to Europe or America.
But you send already, she keep the money and never find her again.

BECAREFUL GUYS .. SHE'S A 100% SCAMMER !!!



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2008-03-30, 11:11:39
youtubeda@live.nl from Netherlands  
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Hey guys..

This lady name (Latifa Adah) somtimes Adeola and now on Skype whit the name Latifa Adarola.

Very becareful of this lady cause she only want you send money for a ticket to Europe or America.
But if you send already, she keep the money and never find her again.

BECAREFUL GUYS .. SHE'S A 100% SCAMMER GIRL !!!

Her phone number is +2348038782511

This is a mail from her whit the intension for to come to Europe :


Hello Roland,
Thanks for calling me today,You sounded very nice on phone as well,even when the line was not that clear but i could hear you speak very well.
I have not been to europe but have always been in my mind to visit someday.I dont know anyone there but have heard alot about the europeans
I have my international passport already incase i have the opportunity to travel some day.
Whats your favourite meal?.I can prepare chicken stew for you some time when we happen to be togther.Its also one of my favourite.By the way,my name is Latifa and not lativa.....
I have just tried to follow the instruction on skype.After downloading, i will add you up so we can talk there right?.
Hugs
Latifa.





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2008-03-30, 19:10:13
anonymous from United States  
reverse this scam. it worked for me. tell them in order to trust western union union that you should transfer a small amount about 114.00 to transfer to russia / give them your name and have them send money to you as you are going to send it back just to make sure everything works before you send 5000.00 dollars
my stupid scammer done this and i bought 3 for real lap dances with a real russian girl at the pony strip club in memphis tn.//// funnnnnnnnnny it will work if you act stupid in love/ these people are good theives but are so greedy they are stupid to the american mind, guys.. have fun. do it !!!!!!
2008-03-31, 01:55:32
Great!!!!  
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2008-04-01, 03:35:41
anonymous from Nederweert, Netherlands  
I was overwhelmed with good news from Angela Nedobega Nikolaevna.
She made me think that she didn't speak English.
She asked for money, to be transfered to Anna Gurchenkova, a wellknown scammer.

However from other sites I found out tha Angelika is the manager of a 'translation office'and speaks English rather well.
She is also connected to an appartment rent-service called comfortdelux.

So it is just scraping and scamming as much as you can.


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2008-04-01, 10:37:30
anonymous  
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Please notifiy me when new comments
2008-04-02, 20:29:16
anonymous from United States  
why do most claim to be 28 years old and a nurse,anybody else noticed this?
This image was also posted here:
Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 5



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2008-04-02, 22:08:04
anonymous from Australia  
2008-04-03, 00:43:13
anonymous from United States  
this is here form letter.


Hi Calvin. It's Maria. We have got dating with
you on RussianEuro, remember? You have very much
interested me, and I would like to know about you
more! By the way, this is my e-mail womanofspring@hotmail.ru.
I think to both of us interestingly to know about
each other more. I'm start first …

I have never been married and I don't have
children. Though to me 35 years, but I don't
regret about that that till now was not in a
marriage and I have no children. I think, that at
me still ahead!
I very sociable woman, have many good friends. I
constantly to radiate the optimism on everyone who
to be around of me.
I send you some my photos to share the smile and
fine mood! By the way I have dog, by name Kuzya.
He is a boy.

It's for certain interesting to you, that the
woman in the future half wishes to see, therefore
it will be pleasant for you and useful to know a
little about the man of ' my dream '...
To me is interesting the man which searches for
serious relations. For me is necessary man with
which I would feel myself the happiest woman in
the world. It's important for me, to have mutual
understanding, trust and the responsibility! I
think, that the Internet is very good way for
dating. I think, that it should be romantic, have
the friend or even more in other country.

I think for the beginning, we could become friends
what you will tell? In fact strong relations in
love, should be based in strong relations in
friendship!
I think, you are solidary with me in it...
Ok, I'll stop today. I need to have time to
prepare some papers for work.
I wait for your letter,
Maria.

2008-04-03, 08:47:43
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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For anyone interested I have plenty of letters and photos of Ekaterina from 'Yurino'. I didn't know there was a Yurino in California (he states, ever so credulously !!!) upon a simple IP address check. After over a month of correspondence, she is finally hinting financial help for this poor little Russian girl. Much to my probing and sarcasm, which I don't think she has the intelligence to pick up on, I have been suspicious ever since
1) She told me she 'loves me' within the first three letters (of course that wouldn't be hard ;-) ), and:
2) Her profile (or structure !!) was removed from the 'site of acquaintances' within a few short days.

Men; when women bitch about us being insensitive, is it no wonder ? I know it isn't all women by the way !!!!
2008-04-03, 12:58:11
anonymous from United States  
Re: Ekaterina from Yurino, check pages 152-153 in this thread for pix & info about her. She wanted $1350 USD for visa and flight from me, but I didn't send it, and now she's disappeared from my inbox.
2008-04-03, 23:28:42
anonymous from Australia  
Hey Guys,Seems I was a lucky one,After several photos and emails from Kristina Budrashowa,(one of her names) I played the game agreeing to send her travel money.I asked for a PRIVATE PHOTO of her and received a beautiful NUDIE of her.I then emailed her a copy of her profile from this site,and thankrd her for such a lovely photo
Loz from Oz
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