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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-04-29, 14:33:07
OJAS from United States  
Active scammers for today's target practice ... Messenger Mate(s)? ...

e-mail at the end of this post http://www.delphifa..p=0#87446
http://www.delphifa..=33#87533
http://www.delphifa..084.shtml
http://www.delphifa..#comments
http://www.delphifa..082.shtml
Dirk's posts on this page http://www.delphifa..#comments

Retaliate http://www.delphifa..p=0#84669
This thread has only 12 pages ... Please retaliate on behalf of Oz mates ! ! http://www.delphifa..=11#85259

Cheers from the States!
2008-04-29, 15:28:24
Tony from United States  
Cool like Dirk. Thanks. Have it book marked for future use.
2008-04-30, 01:01:48   (updated: 2008-04-30, 01:05:25)
999MoreEvil from Australia  
reply for scammer to the Messenger without the photo of your mother
subject привет уебок!!!!!!! Translation Greeting F**ker
ты уебок, гипнотизер ебанный!!!!!!!!
the part translation I got was You f**ker hypnotist what ever but I think it was bastard
Unfortunately my holiday is over so I will have less time to harass the scammers but will do my best .

cheers keep up the good work


2008-04-30, 07:29:08   (updated: 2008-04-30, 07:32:18)
999MoreEvil from Australia  
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potty mouth of such a lovely looking girl Olga claims to be from USA
email olechca11@gmail.com should be interesting to see response after I reply with photo of your mother
Sorry I should have included in the above post cheers : ))


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2008-04-30, 08:24:32
Tony from United States  
Yeah 999MoreEvil, all good things must come to an end. Back to the old grind eh? We'll keep the sammers busy for you. Nice picture of Olda. Can have a little fun with it. Later.
2008-04-30, 12:05:51
OJAS from United States  
999MoreEvil, and others
Thanks for all your contributions. It is understandable, that it may not be possible to continue contributions, as changing priorities may dictate other directions. However, it is always a pleasure to welcome new ones, meet friends, help inform others, learn from them and so on ... During a tenure in delphi, good things can actually happen ... to us ... and others, who share our common cause!

As recent example is a delphian who permitted me to pass on his e-mail address ... He will know when he reads this post ...

We are not computer bots posting here, we are ordinary humans, we read, then post ...

By contrast, scammers use templated form letters, sent without reading your mails, automatically in a pre-arranged sequence KLM (Kiss, Love, Money) They expect huge cash in return for something like the attached picture ! !

Keep up all your good job against those low-lives.
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Ekaterina Rozhentsova
Dating scammer Rhoda Naa from Accra, Ghana



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2008-04-30, 13:36:32   (updated: 2008-04-30, 13:39:31)
Tony from United States  
Good job yourself OJAS my man. Hear from one person called MM. We're both Dealing with Ekaterina. Hoping to hear from him again.
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Ekaterina
Dating scammer Ekaterina



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2008-04-30, 14:35:21
cvdsupport@earthlink.net from United States  
This was my very first encounter with a lady from Russia. I met Yuliya on Match Dot Com in early January. Her profile said she lived here in the United States, but on her first email she wanted me to contact her at her own email address. snowflakenursi@yahoo.com She was irresistible and so damn cute. We corresponded for a month or more before it became clear that she was not a real person.


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2008-04-30, 14:44:48
cvdsupport@earthlink.net from Phoenix, United States  
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Yuliya had a birthday coming up and I wanted to send her a birthday gift to her home address. But come to find out that the delivery company could not find that address. To confirm this I used a Russian background check to ee if she was a real person. I sent them all of the email information with the IP address. They confirmed the her address and name did not exist in the city that she gave me.

Received: from unknown (HELO neil.mshome.net) (snowflakenursi@91.144.161.148 with plain)

IP address: 91.144.161.148
Reverse DNS: [Timeout]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 91.144.128.0 to 91.144.191.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.ripe.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 91.144.161.148




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2008-04-30, 14:49:47
cvdsupport@earthlink.net from Phoenix, United States  
Yuliya lived in a city called Arbazh near Kirov, Russia. She told me that she was a nurse in the local Hospital and lived with her Mother. She sent me many photos of herself, her friends and her Mother. All seemed so real and she seemed to be just a normal girl of 30 years living in a small town in Russia. I never really expected her to ask for money and she didn't. She only expressed a true desire to be with me and be my wife.

With my experience now that I have gained from this and many other web site, it is clear that she is just another Yahoo Boy in Russia trying to make some American money. What she wanted was for me to offer her money to come to America, but I never did. I told her that if she really loved me then she would find a way to come here on her own.


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2008-04-30, 14:58:52
cvdsupport@earthlink.net from Phoenix, United States  
Yuliya really put on an act of perseverance with me. She went to all of family and friends to get the money she needed. But she came up short, about $1000 short. Of course she wanted me to send her that little bit of money to help her come to be my bride. I told her then that I felt that she was a scammer and this was her email after that.

Hello my darling, I have received your letter, and to me from it it became bad. At me except for you who is not present you mine are unique, we should be with you together!!!!! I very strongly love you!!!! I do notunderstand your letter!!!!!!!! You speak me about what games? I do all for our meeting, for for that that we would be together!!!!!!!! I do not know that else I can make for our meeting. I all that could have made, but I still that try to make that for us, but I do not see about you support!!!!!! You have made something for our meeting!!!??? I did not see that you that that do for our meeting!!!! At me except for you whom, you my unique!!!! how me to be? I all have got confused!!! I thought that that you love me. I do not know as me to be!!!! I very strongly love you!!!! On what so? What for you so with me? For what you so, I when or did to you badly? I with impatienceshall wait for your answer.Your unique Yuliya.




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2008-04-30, 16:18:27
anonymous from United States  
After that emotional email from her of course I felt bad, but I knew that this was not a real person. At least not the person that was in the photos she sent to me. We continued to correspond and it finally came to an end. She could not stand to be without me and decided to go where she could make more money but she could not stay in contact with me. What a guilt trip this person puts out there. Here is Yuliya last email to me, with tears in her eyes she writes:

Hello My Lovely Man And My Sun XXXXX !!!!!!!I am very glad to receive your letter. Your letters help me to live. I write to you last letter. I do not know as earlier I lived without you, without ideas on you. XXXXX, you have made me happy. XXXXX, I very much love you. You that whom I searched for all life. I wish to be with you together, but to a regret I not that cannot do! All that at me is in a life this you!!! You that for the sake of whom I lived all the life, only for you I stored myself. I waited for you, I have found you, but tomorrow I leave in on the North and I shall arrivewhen I shall earn on second half of cost of tickets. I any more do notknow where to me to take such sum for our meeting. My unique treasureddream, it to be with you. Me who except for you cannot make happy. Youmy love, at me when to anybody there was no such love and such lovefeelings. When I go to bed, I think only of you. We would be thehappiest pair in the world. I have made all that to probably my forcesfor the sake of you favourite mine XXXXX!!!! I very much wish to wake up every morning and to see you near to myself and to feel your gentle touches! I wish to feel taste of your sweet lips. Well on what two loving hearts cannot be together? Why this barrier has arisen between us? I do not know to overcome this barrier. To my heart it is very bad, from that that you are not present beside. You the most mine charming, the beloved in the world. I with huge impatience shall wait for your warm letter. I shall write to you when I shall earn money and I shall arrive from the North, up to a meeting!!! I very gently embrace you and is sweet sweet I kiss on the mouth. Yours and only your loving Yuliya




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2008-04-30, 16:26:37
OJAS from United States  
cvdsupport, detailed discussion of this IP block http://www.delphifa..3020.shtml
2008-04-30, 17:08:09
cvdsupport@earthlink.net from Phoenix, United States  
Here is another encounter with a Russian lady named Galina. Funny thing is after Yuliya said her good byes, I found this gal on Match with the profile ID of sladkaya_girl7. The writing in the emails is almost exactly like that of Yuliya. But her IP address would shows up as Greensboro, North Carolina sometimes and others it would be from Russia. Her pictures are taken from some personal web page I guess. Not sure, but I am sure that the girl in the photos is not from Russia. Here is that first email from Match.

Hello stranger!

What happens in my life?
Around only silence,
Only drops of a rain on branches.
Transforming instants in eternity.
And we shall think of desires,
What to love and be favourite?


Beautiful poem? It about love, which dreams each person. I very long search
for the love and for me now each minute, it seems eternity.
You too search for love, and you lonely?
And it does not allow to feel good?
I have seen your structure and have composed this poem specially for you.
You have very much liked me. The person can be happy, only when he will find
love. You agree with it?
You have very much liked me! I very much would wish to speak with you.
I could tell about myself, but one letter will be insufficiently.
You not against if we have learned one another better? You liked this idea?
I think, that match not the best place for this purpose.
We could communicate on e-mail and exchange pictures.
If you not against, I shall wait red_rose_galina 'y a h o o' c o m

I shall be very glad, if you write to me. Have good day! I wait your letter
with impatience and consequently I delete the structure.
I shall wait very much...

Girl requiring love




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2008-04-30, 17:20:07
cvdsupport@earthlink.net from United States  
I found in one of her photos there is an electrical outlet in the background that is US standard not European. This was after several emails and finding her to be most attractive. She played her game well be it was only a game. If you look at this photo, it's almost like a hotel room, not someone's bedroom.

More examples of Red Rose Galina. He typical IP address

IP address: 77.40.116.139
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per ns-pri.ripe.net.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 77.40.0.0 to 77.40.127.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 77.40.116.139




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