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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2006-09-04, 14:35:32
anonymous from United States  
I mistakenly posted my email address could you tell remove it please
2006-09-04, 14:57:08
anonymous from United States  
The operation announced over control by Lyudmilla Putina (Putunia) during the 1970's called Tricky Dicky (subverted cop) and associated it with its start during the administration of Richard Nixon has to do with corrupting law enforcement so they conduct themselves as if organized criminals as away of subverting the justice system and with their authority continuously being expanded. The reason for the name Tricky Dicky was because Vladimir Putin, now President of Russia, was starting to have a difficult time getting an erection and resulted in his wife starting to use a strap on dildo on him so he could get an erection to have sex.
2006-09-04, 18:01:38
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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2006-09-04, 18:42:11
anonymous from Canada  
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Hey guys
Here's one I haven't seen on this site yet
Galina
email: galina2006@gawab.ru
How come I get the ugly ones?


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2006-09-04, 18:44:49
anonymous from Canada  
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Another Galina


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2006-09-04, 19:02:20
anonymous from Canada  
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Here's a little gal that tried to play me...Too bad,I wouldn't mind playing with her.
Liliya
email:lilykiss@gmail.com
I have another three girls on the go but they haven't asked for the cash yet.
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Dating scammer Natalia Nikolaeva, Liliya Faizrahmanova, Oksana Baranova



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2006-09-04, 22:41:40
anonymous from United States  
just antother pic any ideas


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2006-09-06, 00:33:08
Mrs. C from United States  
Hi Manchester

the pic of the car does make me wonder too. Toyota Camry 199? maybe?
in Her pic it looks like it is driving on the side of the road that you do in England.
in russia thay drive on the other side of the road just like in the U.S.A


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2006-09-06, 08:15:28
anonymous from United States  



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2006-09-06, 17:03:48
anonymous from United States  
Same old 'The computer in service of acquaintances found to me Some profiles of people which coincide with my inquiry.' message. From a public profile on match.com. Second message in I realized something wasn't right. Didn't send any cash, but feel stupid even sending a pic of myself before realizing.
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Dating scam artist Anastasiya Romanova



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2006-09-07, 04:37:37
anonymous from United Kingdom  
My Friend,
You guys are realy good in exposing this robbers. I had found on the picture sent to me on this site and also 2 similar letters. Only the name is different. I had also seen the fake passport scanned and sent to me. The name on this website is Natalia. The name she used for me is Tatjana. She want me to send 700$ to her to complete her journey from Moscow to Nigeria. What pains me most is that, transparency international will over look this and pronounced erroneuously that Nigeria is the most corrupt country in the world. I an not aware of any dating scam in Nigeria. This girl sent her travel details, but forget to show me the visa she got from the Nigeria embassy in moscow. I sent e-mail to Nigeria embassy in Moscow but I am yet to receieved their response on it. I discovered this site just about 30min after sending a mail to Nigeria embassy in Moscow. Thank you.


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2006-09-07, 13:38:06
anonymous from Canada  
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Hi guys
This little number said she was from Russia but when I tracked her email she was actually from California.I didn't bother writing back and now she's upset with me.She calls herself Ksenia

Thanks Jason, that's good advice for everyone (track their IP address)


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2006-09-07, 15:12:46
anonymous from United States  
Dang, forget the internet. Ukraine no longer requires a VISA. Just find a friend with a Ukranian connection already. Make arrangements and skip the internet all together. Didn't take me long to figure out the scammers. Sorry to say I've deleted all my pictures but one. Here she is. New old? Don't know? But she pulled out the tricks already. Said, done and over. ; ) Actually, I'll get the other pictures from my email again of a couple more. BE WARNED ALL.


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2006-09-07, 15:20:25
anonymous from United States  
Another picture to watch for guys.


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2006-09-09, 04:38:15
anonymous from Spain  
Boys who met this great girls from russia....i have to tell you something this girls are doing the best taking money from people who things everything its posible with money even to buy a girl in russia or eastern europe (very poor girls)..but not,remember they are more clever that any dum stupid american person with money but not brain(where is spain?near mexico!!!mama mia) who can see that...i hope they are many natalias,elviras,natashas... etc. to take as much as posible the money of you!!! money not allways buy everything guys! go to school please!
From somewhere in europe where people are more clever that in fucking america....
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