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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-02-02, 09:19:07
spurs61@gmail.com from Brighton, United Kingdom  
just had a email from brenna at dbrenna@alsfdgfdl.com is she a scam ? thanks
2009-02-02, 21:57:11
anonymous from Zapopan, Mexico  
THIS WOMAN IS VERY DANGERUS, SHE HAS MANY PROFILES AND NAMES, CHRISTINA PUTNIKOVA, EVGENIYA AND NOW SHE IS IN INTERNATIONAL CUPID UNDER THE NAME OF YVON,SHE SAID THAT LIVES IN ROTTERDAM ZUID-HOLLAND NETHERLAND, BE CAREFUL SHE IS A SCAMMER.
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Dating scammer Helen G
Dating scammer Christina Putnikova



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2009-02-03, 11:44:21
anonymous from United States  
Mark from US,

Is she has no money or job, she sure as hell cannot come to the US - no one would issue her a visa (unless it is a fiancee visa, and you would need to meet personally with this lady before you two can apply for a fiancee visa).

Hope this helps.
2009-02-03, 20:00:33   (updated: 2009-02-03, 20:01:34)
anonymous from United States  
@ New Zealand Post 2009-01-31, 23:24:46
That girls photo has been used with the name Polina Dabrovina (Dubrovina) - Urengoy

http://www.romances..php?t=783




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2009-02-04, 14:36:15
anonymous from United States  
Here is the sinerio_________________ I meet this russian girl she has no job no money no nothing. We have been on 4 dates . I helped her pay her rent because i like her and i feal bad. She seems to allways be busy in the day and free at night. She lives with other russin friends. She allways has guys calling her phone and said she has alot of guy friends. I am starting to wonder if she is a prostutute. but We have been on 4 dates and i only got one hug. We were eating out the other day and i noticed she has a ID from Illinois wich is far from where she lives, wich is kind of weird. She has been here for 8 months and wants to stay. She says she has a SSN and can work. She knows 6 difrent languages but at times she cant understand me?? Is she just playing me or should i still keep going with her? i spent like 800 on four date i allways call her and she says she doesnt know if she is busy that day. Rember she doesnt work.


THANK YOU MARK
2009-02-05, 04:57:17
anonymous from United Kingdom  
EVGENIYA - SHE SAYS SHE IS A DENTIST AND DOESNT WANT MONEY - SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE SHE GOES WITH THIS - BUT BEWARE THIS IS A SCAMMER


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2009-02-05, 11:51:43   (updated: 2009-02-05, 11:52:54)
OJAS from United States  
UK, http://www.delphifa..15#127711
If you follow that thread, a dentist can unexpectedly get into an accident!

http://www.dailymai..ge_id=1879
2009-02-06, 09:44:00
anonymous from Netherlands  



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2009-02-08, 05:04:23
anonymous from United States  
This one contacted me this morning on 2 different emails, claiming to be Lisa from AFF. I assume she is a scammer because of her means of contact.


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2009-02-08, 19:08:27
anonymous from United States  
Here is the sinerio_________________ I meet this russian girl she has no job no money no nothing. We have been on 8 dates . I helped her pay her rent because i like her and i feal bad. She seems to allways be busy in the day and free at night. She lives with other russin friends. She allways has guys calling her phone and said she has alot of guy friends. I am starting to wonder if she is a prostutute. but We have been on 8 dates and i only got one hug. We were eating out the other day and i noticed she has a ID from Illinois wich is far from where she lives, wich is kind of weird. She has been here for 8 months and wants to stay. She says she has a SSN and can work. She knows 6 difrent languages but at times she cant understand me?? Is she just playing me or should i still keep going with her? i spent like 1400 on 8 date i allways call her and she says she doesnt know if she is busy that day. Rember she doesnt work.


THANK YOU MARK
2009-02-12, 12:47:16
anonymous from United Kingdom  
i have beeen reciving e-mails from this person dose anyone know if she is genuine, please reply as I might like to get to know her as she claims to be on her way to work in the U.K.
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Dating scammer Svetlana



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2009-02-13, 07:20:46
anonymous from United Kingdom  
recieved this this morning from same person above look familar


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2009-02-13, 08:24:45
anonymous from United Kingdom  
the girl in the two pictures above calls herself Svetlana claims to be 25 birthday 22 Feburary 1983 her e-mail is lublueto@frammail.net claims to be fromRussian town Zukovka, Kuzechnaya 9 near city of Kuznechnaya and only have four digital phone numbers in her town and two of her letters have appeared her with very slight differences. Not asked for anything yet exept that I meet her at airport she won't be getting that anything else either also claims to have done the first part of trip to UK and suprise suprise is awaiting her travel documents and visa from travel agency. Will keep you all informed
2009-02-13, 09:34:18
anonymous from Australia  
@ anonymous from United States 2009-02-08, 19:08:27

i spent like 1400 on 8 date


You have a gold digger and are being used. Even a good girl would have given you more than
one hug
by now!

I remember when I spent about $100 on a date and she offered to give me some money when we next met. I said don't worry, I'm fine with it! I'd known her as a friend for many years up to that date. We're still friends now. She's an example of a good girl!
2009-02-13, 09:55:52
OJAS from United States  
@Newcomers: SCAM SCENARIOS http://www.trovalam...php?id=27
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