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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2006-10-20, 08:58:45
anonymous from United States  
stephaniemaxwell147@yahoo.com
2006-10-20, 09:40:04
anonymous from United States  
olmurah@yandex.ru
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2006-10-21, 17:20:41
anonymous from United States  



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2006-10-21, 17:33:28
anonymous from United States  
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Anybody now something about this girl?
She stated ni her profile that she was living in the USA, but later in her second e mail told me to be Russian
She says her name is Olya. She is form Russia, Yashkino city her email address is heaven9@pikotov.net
I received the following letter:
Thank you for responce,
i had to promise - i'm sending my pictures today
so this in attach
About my profile:
I'm not from America- as was in my profile, i'm in russia now
when i created it i tried to put my zip but it is no worked
I'm new in dating through interent and you are my first match.

Now little about me
I'm 30 years old single and never have been married, i have no kids,
i'm 167 cm tall and abou 55 kg my wight
I'm Russian and live in Russia all my life,
I live in town that is name Yashkino near big city is Kemerovo very big city
im live in Central Ural of russia where is
My you heard about Cusbas it is here
Kemerovo isgeneral center of bituminous coal production
My town is about 100 km on north west form Kemerovo
here is no many place where alot of grenn place but m y tow is in green zone
here is forest reserve


What about your town (city) do you like place where you life?
Have you met some one ever through internet befor?
i heard that in America it is very popular.
I have just used a computer for 4 month,before that I only heard about
them so i'm still new in it.

I'm seriously looking for the right man for me who i can spend
rest of my life with, but first we should become good friends
My friends say i'm honest faithful and no like false
and thats the way i was raised in my own
That's a little about me and I hope to know more about you.
Its will be so pleasant for me to get
answer from you! I will be waiting it with impatience!
Please write me and say what you think about this all.
have nice day, Olya



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2006-10-22, 10:44:32
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Hi Simon,
Loved your Irina Kochergina emails, I've received the same emails but mine are from Mariya from Yaroslavl, Russia - Check out mine, I'm upto your 8TH Email, the one mentioning Monokini.
Monokini are quite good I've found some music videos & live performances on YouTube.com.
Hope to beat your 17 ! Cheers Tony.
2006-10-22, 10:44:52
anonymous from United States  
Does anybody know this woman? Here's her email to me last time with her address and here's a picture of her. I am not dumb to just send her money.

Hi my love James, I am very happy to read your letter, as always. Many
thanks for your good letter was interested. Today I went in one travel
agency about an opportunity of travel to USA. And then to me have
told, that with it there are no problems and I can arrive to you. Only
for this purpose all over again it is necessary for me to issue for
myself the visa and the passport. Also that for this purpose I was
necessary for following in the American embassy. In agency to me have
told, that it is necessary for me to make the visa of the visitor
because I never was in USA and outside the country too earlier. The
given visa of the visitor to cost 85 dollars. The given visa entitles
on stay to territories of USA during 90 days (the visa of the
visitor). For this time we very well can find out each other and if
necessary we shall prolong the visa. Still working passport is
necessary for my travel for me, and it at me is not present, it is
necessary for me to pay 163 more dollars for this plus of 50 dollars
for registration of documents necessary for the visa. Still, in travel
agency to me have explained, that for travel to USA it is necessary
for me to pass immunization and full medical inspection, it is all to
cost 115 dollars. In general me it is necessary 413 dollars. I have
100 $ to go to Moscow and to rent there habitation for some days while
my visa will not be ready.
It is awkward to me to ask you about it but if you have helped me to
pay cost of the visa to I could very soon arrive to you. I would pay
all this, but unfortunately I to not have such money. I have found out
as you can send me money. You can send it through the Western Union.
Unfortunately other system of remittances in our city is not present.
Besides in bank to me have told that it is the most reliable system of
remittances in the world and that money reach very quickly. To send
the money, my address is necessary for you. It is my address :
My full name is Alyona Rzhavina ,
and my home address is:
Popov's street 138-44,
Smolensk, 214020
Russian Federation .
After you will send me money you should inform me control number of
translation (MTCN) it consists of 10 figures. And still the full name
and a home address, only after that I can receive this money. Such
information to me have informed in bank which to be near to my house.
You at all do not imagine as I want to see you to nestle on you and to
speak words of love. I sleep and I see day of ours with you meetings.
I so would like that this day has come as soon as possible. That we
have met face to face and long looked in the face each other. I am
capable to overcome any difficulties for the sake of ours with you
meetings. I very strongly love you and I send you HUGS and KISSES.
With all my love Alyona .

mailto:alyonataxi44@rambler.ru



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2006-10-22, 11:20:04
sevgiye_dairr@hotmail.com from Turkey  



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2006-10-24, 09:44:36
sand445@attglobal.net from United States  
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If someone says they are from your country (say America for an example) in their first email (or their profile on a dating site), and then in the next email tell you they are from Russia or Nigeria or someplace else, in my opinion they will eventually look to scam you. I have never seen this pattern fail to yield a scammer in more than 2 dozen experiences.

You can do what you want but I gave you my opinion.

Sandy
2006-10-25, 10:51:34
anonymous from United States  



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2006-10-26, 14:22:19
anonymous from United States  
Marina Pavlikova (Kazan, Russia)

I would like to report to you about a scammer from Kazan. Her name is Marina Pavlikova, Street R. Z場he house 81, Kazan, Russia, 420092. She was born in 1979 but her ID says 1978. Her e-mail address is marinadir@front.ru and her ISP is: Received: from aqua.relinfo.ru ([195.161.208.130] , Received: from alexey-ib3g4dzt (19.dialup-a.mari-el.ru [195.161.212.19]) by aqua.relinfo.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h419Dflr056380 Never answers your questions and brings up the subject of money early in her letters which is an obvious sign of a scammer. She wants me to send her money by Western Union first for using the internet and now money for her apartment, as she has no money.
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2006-10-26, 14:23:00
anonymous from United States  
195.161.208.130


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2006-10-27, 20:37:57
anonymous from United States  



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2006-10-28, 12:38:52
anonymous from United States  
i WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF i,AM BEING SCAMMED?
i HAVE BEEN WRITING THIS GIRL IN rUSSIA.
sHE HAS GIVEN ME HER PHONE NUMBER AND ASK ME TO CALL HER AT HER WORK.
sHE WORKS FOR Coal Rio the email address that i have for her is the coalrio.biz email address. I did call to the phone number and the compsny operator ansered the phone.
so far everything checks out

jgarvin@comlinkinc.net please
2006-10-29, 14:28:14
anonymous from Canada  
To Mrsc or Anonymous about a girlnames Ekaterina or 'Kate' as she calls herself, here are more pics and she is still corresponding wih me. Hmmmmm!!! Maybe she is for real but ask me for 490$ for medicine for her mom. She is suppose to be well of according to her letters. Then, why does she need money? ....Johnny - Canada
my email is leftie1959@yahoo.ca. be glad to help anyone since I have reported quite a few scammers on most sites.


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2006-10-29, 14:34:26
leftie1959@yahoo.ca from Canada  
Here is another scammer and dangerous. She will ask you to open her an account in your country so she can transfer 4000 $ from an agency who guarantees her work but needs a US bank account. Then , you have to send her back the money after it is deposit soshe can come and greet you. Unfortunately guys, once you send her the money and her check from the agency bounces....guess what ? You will be held liable for that check and you have just been scammed 4000$. .......Johnny - Canada
P.S. I am still corresponding with her and apparently has the money to come but this money came from her agency this time. Yeah right .


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