Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers

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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
   
2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
   
3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
   
4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
   
5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
   
6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
   
   ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
   
   BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
   
   AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
   
   *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
   
7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
   
8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.

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2009-05-16, 12:32:40

wanwan from Japan

@Rick @OJAS Thanks !! My pictures are all coming from Russia,Africa,so several pictures maybe not JPEG? I look up it. Thank you for your important info !! And OJAS,many Beagles pix,lovely ,cute ! My beagle has eaten my mama's breakfast !! He is not outdoor but in living room.In the morning aunt visited us and mama went to the door, he ran to the table and had eaten everything ! He is a big eater .Thank you OJAS . Rick OJAS have a nice weekend !! mata-ne(it means see you again ). From beagle in Japan This image was also posted here: Dating scammer Anna Ogannisyan Dating scammer SMITH ANDERSON Dating scammer Oleary Ferrant Dating scammer Alena Dating scammer SMITH ANDERSON Dating scammer SMITH ANDERSON Dating scammer Ekaterina Rozhentsova Keywords:

2009-05-17, 23:00:14

DOC from United States

Hello my friend wanwan, How are you today? Hope you are good. Thanks for writing to me. I am very thankful to have a very smart and good child. It makes me very happy and proud to be a father. wanwan I think you speak very good english and you are very smart. I am thankful for you and the work that you all do to stop scammers. I read that maybe you find a very dangerous scammer in which they want to kidnap. I hope that we in the future can stop these scammers from hurting many innocent people. I wish that Magnus would not post when he drinks,he posts stuff that don't make sense and he probably does not mean what he is saying. Thanks for your help with him. wanwan I would like it if you wrote to me on my thread more instead of Anna. okay? I am at dating scammer olga finekitten28@yahoo.com,I will be looking there for your posts. mata-ne , DOC

2009-05-18, 05:52:57

wanwan from Japan

Russian scammer !! be careful !! Sender(94.75.193.168) IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 94.75.193.168 NETHERLANDS NOORD-HOLLAND AMSTERDAM 52.35 4.917 - +01:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL LEASEWEB LEASEWEB.COM IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 31 - (NLXX0002) AMSTERDAM IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 94.100.176.90 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL MAILRU-NET MAIL.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 94.100.176.90 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL MAILRU-NET MAIL.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 94.100.176.90 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL MAILRU-NET MAIL.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 18.00.44.10 UNITED STATES MASSACHUSETTS CAMBRIDGE 42.3729 -71.1063 02138 -05:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY MIT.EDU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 617/857 (USMA0066) CAMBRIDGE IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 94.100.176.90 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL MAILRU-NET MAIL.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW Receiv ****************************************************************************** sender IP 94.75.193.168 http://www.projecth..5.193.168 It says '' Unkno' ' ****************************************************************************** My name is Nastya or full Anastasia! eternity050' <eternity050@mail.ru> From: nastya3 <eternity050@mail.ru> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal This image was also posted here: Dating scammer Nastya Dating scammer Nastya Dating scammer Nastya Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers Keywords:

2009-05-18, 08:34:19

wanwan from Japan

Russian Scammer Be careful ! She doesn't send me her pict. ************************************************************************ Sender(IP 4.0.24.11 ) IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 4.0.24.11 UNITED STATES OHIO LEWIS CENTER 40.1839 -82.9843 43035 -05:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS INC LEVEL3.NET IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 740 (USOH0505) LEWIS CENTER IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 77.40.15.44 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637 47.871 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DIAL OJSC VOLGATELECOM MARI-EL.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 18.06.12.31 UNITED STATES MASSACHUSETTS CAMBRIDGE 42.3729 -71.1063 02138 -05:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY MIT.EDU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 617/857 (USMA0066) CAMBRIDGE IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW Receiv **************************************************************************** olechkaa1981@rambler.ru From: olechkaa1981 <olechkaa1981@rambler.ru> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24.1Professional ***************************************************************************** kislitsinaolechka@rambler.ru My name is Olga. I live in Russia This image was also posted here: Dating scammer Anna Ogannisyan Dating scammer Rhoda Naa from Accra, Ghana Dating scammer svetlana Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia Dating scammer Yuliya Solovyeva Dating scammer Anastasiya Basova Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 5 Dating scammer Olga Chernova from Kstovo, Russia Dating scammer Alexandru Begu Dating scammer Rhoda Naa from Accra, Ghana Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers Keywords:

2009-05-18, 14:14:26

wanwan from Japan

This is Kristina from Mariy-El,Yoshkar-. **************************************************************************** Sender(21.09.16.28 ?) The result from IP2Location™ Email Header Tracer IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 21.09.16.28 UNITED STATES OHIO COLUMBUS 39.986 -82.988 43218 -05:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL DOD NETWORK INFORMATION CENTER NAVY.MIL IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 614 (USOH0212) COLUMBUS IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 99.241.198.36 CANADA - - 45.417 -75.7 - -04:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL ROGERS CABLE INC. SLNT ROGERS.COM IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 - (CAXX0343) OTTAWA IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 209.85.200.171 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956 -122.076 94035 -08:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 209.85.200.171 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956 -122.076 94035 -08:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 209.85.200.171 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956 -122.076 94035 -08:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 209.85.200.171 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956 -122.076 94035 -08:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 209.85.200.171 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956 -122.076 94035 -08:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VI ***************************************************************************** •A malformed ip 21.09.16.28 ? http://www.projecth..ch_ip.php 'rbkkristi' <rbkkristi@gmail.com> Keywords:

2009-05-18, 14:16:50

wanwan from Japan

Kristina from Yoshkar-Ola. Keywords:

2009-05-18, 14:24:05

wanwan from Japan

Kristina ! @Rick @OJAS This picture of Kristina is a BMP(data).Few days ago I could not put it on here. So I studied textbook of Microsoft then I have changed from BMP data to JPEG data. I have chosen Windows live photogallary. Thank you ,OJAS,Rick !! Keywords:

2009-05-18, 14:41:47

wanwan from Japan

@CPH HI,fine? I hope so. By the way ,please come here http://www.delphifa..#comments see you!

2009-05-18, 16:41:35

OJAS from United States

@Wanwan, DOC's thread http://www.delphifa..=11#147175

2009-05-19, 13:00:05

wanwan from Japan

Russian scammer comi! ! *************************************************************************** Hello xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx! How is your day? Now I would like to tell you some more details about myself. I'm 27. My birthday on May, 17, my name is Olga. I never got married and I live alone! My mother has died 5 years ago, my father has died 3 years ago! At me did not remain relatives! Since I graduate from college I have been working in children's hospital. When I have spare time I go the gym to do sports because I take care of my body, also I like to dance! I like to travel and visit different places, but my work does not allow me to do it frequently. I have many friends, we spend the time together, play billiard, tennis, and have other entertainment. I don't have many pics myself, but I try to find some more pics. I send you my picture so you can an idea of me more closely. I want to confess to beeing a sweettooth, I like ice-cream, cakes, candy. But I can allow it seldom because not to be fat. What else can I say to you about myself? I love beautiful clothes and different things of light colours. Light-blue, pink, beige and other plain colours make me relax and even feel better. And what is your favourite colour? Please Ask me some more interesting things about yourself. How do you prefer to relax? What is your character? What is your preferable qualities in women? Do you want to have a wife? You can also ask me questions in what you are inetrested in. I impatiently wait for your letter and eager to answer all your letter. And of course it will be pleasant for me to receive your new photos and even want to learn about you some more information you. Write to me, I wait. Your friend O. ****************************************************************************** From: olechkaa1981 <olechkaa1981@rambler.ru> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24.1Professional ******************************************************************************* Sender(4.0.24.11) IP2Location™ Email Header Tracer IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 4.0.24.11 UNITED STATES OHIO LEWIS CENTER 40.1839 -82.9843 43035 -05:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS INC LEVEL3.NET IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 740 (USOH0505) LEWIS CENTER IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 77.40.15.44 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637 47.871 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DIAL OJSC VOLGATELECOM MARI-EL.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 19.09.40.02 UNITED STATES MICHIGAN DEARBORN 42.3165 -83.205 48121 -05:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL FORD MOTOR COMPANY FORD.COM IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 1 313 (USMI0220) DEARBORN IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 81.19.66.27 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75 37.583 - +03:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMBLER.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW Receiv **************************************************************************** http://www.projecth...40.15.44 '' unkno' ' *************************************************************************** olechkaa1981' <olechkaa1981@ramb. ru> **************************************************************************** This image was also posted here: Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers Dating scammer Rhoda Naa from Accra, Ghana Dating scammer Anna Ogannisyan Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers Keywords:

2009-05-19, 20:21:57

anonymous from United States

i have been chatting with someone for 6 months.She has sent me nice pictures,i know im not the only ,this scam thing is new to me.I have tried her pics on three websites,her email address and came up empty.I have a feeling that she is chatting with someone else.I dont want to post her pick and treat her like a scammer,in case is isnt one.However how do you find out if she is chatting with someone.she wants me to send money for a visa and passport.She said it would cost $2000.I dont know.She is from Leeds,Uk,but now lives in Ikeja,lagos,Nigeria.She is a nurse at a nursing home.I have alot of picks of her.Her name is Lisa Williams.I do care but i was wondering now after reading evrything that people are saying on these websites,if someone can just give me so ideas that would be great.I even tried the Nigerian Detective scam and all they did was take my money. Many Thanks

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