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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2014-04-09, 17:35:35
Scivirus from South Africa  
Russian girl named april email 25ap84@gmx.com is a dating scamer well maybe just some guy .
Will contact a man on a dating site like zoosk they wait till you like them before they contact you by using a profile near your own city then when you respond then they will say they are from russia setting the stage for a fantasy romance.the scamer will send photos of fairly average person but not ugly and will give detail about there lives thats very believable .after a few emails never with social networks , claiming they dont trust it ,the scamer will offer to meet up with you with a upcoming vaction at there own cost .and just before they flyover the shit will hit the fan .asking for money for the return trip or want help with a visa or something.this picture was send to me at the last stages just to put fuel on the fire .


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2014-04-10, 03:32:58
anonymous  
Start verifying your lady's information and biographical info, you may want to have flowers delivered to your lady's address and ask them to take a picture of the recipient.
2014-04-16, 04:45:39
anonymous from France  



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2014-04-27, 17:18:50
anonymous from China  
My cell is off line because the company i was connected
to,was closed because of revolution our new government just closed it.
Give me the # you can be reached and i would call from work.
To answer your questions about why to send money,
coz i am coming on tour package as tourist its easy
and i am getting visa and tickets as the whole only
here,by this way the price is little big higher,
and i wont have any troubles getting visa as it
happens for Ukrainians who want to immigrate now and Embassy
become very attentive about visas,dear we do not need difficult
because of my traveling but as you can watch on TV our government
become really crazy in some subjects people can not understand it.
My passport is attached.I need 880 US dollars your support to send
here.When i go to work and my co-workers see my smiling
face they do not ask questions any more because
they do know that it is because we have find each
other and out meeting is very close.
I am very glad that you are not loose hope and
going to try to bring me there for a visit
and that you are trying to get me on the flight and has not left me
yet,belive me if i had a chance to do it by myself i would never ask you,
but because of this difficult situation and revolution here i do not have
even chance to borrow funds,every one become very poor
and hardly can cover the food.I am really low on funds and but my wish
to visit you there does not leave me any chances to get any sleeps at
night ! You know,this situation when i wrote you about funds does not
put me in a good mood but i really want to see you and before i could
afford traveling but now i can not and it make me sad,if we met
last year i would not ask you for support and i would be on the
first plane to your hands already but revolution has put
Ukraine in crazy situation and i belive this year people will
buy only potatoes because its not expensive and Russian Army is very
agressive this days and Ukrainians afraid if they start to shoot so
much and kill people.My family want to make gifts for you and it will be surprise.
I am very excited that we someday we will be looking for new work for me
in your area and i want you to know that i do love my job,
when i was very young girl,
i decided that i would spend my life helping the
other people and the most important for me now is to see
the result of my work and when it does help.
I want you to know that i have a sense you are the man i was looking for
during all my life,i had a hoped that there is someone that
is able to understand me and the man i can share my private.
As you know honesty is very important for me and i am very happy
to realize that you are honest man.That means i can trust you,
and this is the fundamental where True relations can be build on.
I want to describe how do i see our first meeting.
It would be very beautiful sunset when the plane lands,
i come out throw custom looking for the man that has changed my
life already and i will find your shinning eyes looking throw
many people at the airport,i will know that your are for
sure because i would feel it with all my heart and soul,
you would feel that the lady running to you is the lady of
your dreams and who has been missing all your life and your heart
will find the other half,we will have very sweet kisses,
you will give me the bouquet with red roses and i will have a tear,
sometimes people have tear when they are very happy and it will
be this moment for us.After we will drive home and have a very tasty
supper and we will feel that this is the beginning of our future together.
After supper there would be night of making love and in the morning
we will drink coffee in the bed and making plans for the day,
it will be our first morning together and everything we do together
we will do the first time,it will be very special.
2014-05-31, 21:04:09
anonymous from Australia  
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A update from Scivirus the pictures are doing the rounds again but as the name of Maya Fox
maya.fox@gmx.com

Hello
Thanks big, that a smog find time and write to me
I long thought that to you to write. Also has understood, that it will be easier to me to answer you yours Email.
My friends name Maya. I was born on May, 25th, 1984, To me 30 years will soon be executed
At me dark and average hair are long. I have brown eyes.
My weight nearby 55 kg. Growth I of 168 centimetres. I do not know, whether beautiful my figure. But I behave in shape.
I live now and was born in Russia in the city of Nizhni Novgorod.

Why you are on a site of acquaintances?

I was on a site because till now I have not found the favourite person, that only thing.
I cheerful, I like to laugh, but for some reason the lonely. Not that that absolutely alone, at me very good friends, but would be desirable something another.
I waited your letter, I am glad that you have written to me.
I can write to you in your language English, I will use the translator, if you not against. I would like to know many languages, but likely it so is difficult.
I will be fair with you. You have very much liked me. Only therefore I have written to you. I know, that you live in other country. But it in any way does not stop me. I wish to learn you.
Forgive, but I have no other pages in social networks. I simply do not have time to communicate Onlain. I do not use Facebook, Skype. I do not have these pages with social networks
I have only Email address, and that I use it for work.
I will send you photos of next time. I wish to tell to you about myself, and certainly to learn about you.
To me it will be pleasant, if you answer me.
I as give you the address of the house: Russia, the city of Nizhni Novgorod, the Nizhniy Novgorod area, Gagarin's Prospectus the house 19, apartment 7, the postal index 603022. I in expectation of ours with you of a meeting.
My phone number +79688351644
and using this as her real name for a western union transfer
Country: Russia ,
City: Moscow.
My name as in passport : Irina
Last Name as in passport : Kopyrina
Irina Kopyrina




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2014-06-09, 12:03:27
anonymous from United States  
Back when she was trying to scam me her name was Olga.


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2014-06-20, 13:40:36
anonymous from United States  
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Me On Friday, May 16, 2014 2:08 PM, 'Ksarenaa@yahoo.com' <Ksarenaa@yahoo.com> wrote: Joe, thanks that have answered my message. My name Natalya. To me of 30 years. I the sociable and cheerful person. But
Jun 19 at 6:25 PM
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On Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:25 PM, joseph skinner <gibson00016@yahoo.com> wrote:


On Friday, May 16, 2014 2:08 PM, 'Ksarenaa@yahoo.com' <Ksarenaa@yahoo.com> wrote:


Joe, thanks that have answered my message. My name Natalya. To me of 30 years. I the sociable and cheerful person. But my life is similar to
the night sky without stars. As in my life there is no the most important, love. In searches of the man of all my life, I have come on a
site match.com. It seems to me to communicate through letters, very romantically and as it allows to learn much better the person before a
meeting. I already communicated through the Internet, but it has not crowned success as men asked to send them my naked photos, for me it
was first attribute of their frivolous attitude. And consequently I have stopped dialogue with them. I think, that you will agree with me
that the decent girl not when will not send similar photos on e mail. Joe, I the rectilinear and fair person, I search only for serious
attitudes, only the present feelings. I think what to construct attitudes, it not a simple problem and if you are ready to it I shall be
glad to continue dialogue with you. Joe if for you, it is simple entertainment, I do not see sense to continue our correspondence. I
apologize, if I something have offended you. But at there is no time for games. I wait your answer! Natalya.





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2014-06-20, 13:50:56
anonymous from United States  
Steve, thanks that have answered my message. My name Olga. To me of 29 years. I the sociable and cheerful person. But my life is similar to
the night sky without stars. As in my life there is no the most important, love. In searches of the man of all my life, I have come on a
site match.com. It seems to me to communicate through letters, very romantically and as it allows to learn much better the person before a
meeting. I already communicated through the Internet, but it has not crowned success as men asked to send them my naked photos, for me it
was first attribute of their frivolous attitude. And consequently I have stopped dialogue with them. I think, that you will agree with me
that the decent girl not when will not send similar photos on e mail. Steve, I the rectilinear and fair person, I search only for serious
attitudes, only the present feelings. I think what to construct attitudes, it not a simple problem and if you are ready to it I shall be
glad to continue dialogue with you. Steve if for you, it is simple entertainment, I do not see sense to continue our correspondence. I
apologize, if I something have offended you. But at there is no time for games. I wait your answer! Olga.


p.s.This picture was made by my friend when we were walking through the park.

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2014-06-20, 13:56:51
anonymous from United States  
My name Natalya. To me of 29 years. I the sociable and cheerful person. But my life is similar
to the night sky without stars. As in my life there is no the most important, love. In searches of the man of all my life, I have come on a
site match.com. It seems to me to communicate through letters, very romantically and as it allows to learn much better the person before a
meeting. I already communicated through the Internet, but it has not crowned success as men asked to send them my naked photos, for me it
was first attribute of their frivolous attitude. And consequently I have stopped dialogue with them. I think, that you will agree with me
that the decent girl not when will not send similar photos on e mail. Jack, I the rectilinear and fair person, I search only for serious
attitudes, only the present feelings. I think what to construct attitudes, it not a simple problem and if you are ready to it I shall be
glad to continue dialogue with you. Jack if for you, it is simple entertainment, I do not see sense to continue our correspondence. I
apologize, if I something have offended you. But at there is no time for games. I wait your answer!

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2014-06-20, 16:28:18
anonymous from United States  
Derrick - please help. I think my Ex and more importantly our child may be a victim of this scam but there are differences, things that make me wonder if marriage is real. Anyone please advise. They met on EHarmony. He visited her, our child said he would marry her in Russia on the same visit. He said he would not. He returned saying he did. She is pretty and half his age and with a young child. She is now saying that her young child's father will not allow child to live in the U.S. I will not allow our child to live in Russia, of course. So is this a scam for money? Is her child an excuse not to come to the U.S.? How can I find out more about her or her family? If they are married in Russia, is it considered they are married in the U.S.? Who the heck even gets married without knowing their child can join them in the U.S. or not? Thanks for any insight.
2014-06-28, 11:11:16
[hidden] from Korea (R)  
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I strongly doubt that the root of scammers might be Russian cupid itself...
OR... probably Russian cupid has intentionally been conniving in scammers.
The reason why I doubt so is that in most case, such ladies wouldn't ask for money,
instead, they try to exchange mail address and send letters several times and
suddenly quit contacting...
I believe many men have already upgraded their membership status to GOLD or
PLATINUM to find another lady, from then on.
Besides this reason, I've strongly felt that Russian cupid always tried to
make their customers to upgrade their membership status by keep sending
interests or mails from who never viewed my profile.
I guess it's a symbiotic relationship between Russian cupid and scammers
or maybe Russian cupid has hired them long ago to win-win.



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2014-07-05, 18:53:08
anonymous  
I get hit on by dating scammers all the time. I must be on a list.
I always use Tineye to check photos sent to me.
The scammers always say their computer is broken. Their phone doesn't make international calls.
If you see this. You are dealing with a dating scammer.
I always ask for nude photos with their face showing.
Models won't do this. So you are dealing with a dating scammer.
2014-07-07, 09:04:47   (updated: 2014-07-07, 09:06:17)
anonymous  
https://www.facebook..259369358
This man is a victim of scammer 'Tatyana (Tanya) Pogadaeva' but does not realize it... :(
2014-07-18, 05:05:51
rose21 from Sioux Falls, United States  



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2014-07-21, 12:09:22
anonymous from United States  



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