Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
I am actually a woman who keeps getting love letters from a Russian woman who thinks I write back to her with love letters. Her emails just go to spam but a couple of letters ago I started keeping track of the progression of her apparent love for me. This is a very lazy scammer who has not received one letter from my address but feels like there must be some value and opportunity to keep increasing the intensity of her love letters for money I am assuming. Her email is: firstname.lastname@example.org and she calls herself Irina and claims she is a surgeon.
anonymous from United States
wanwan from Japan
Hey,I have posted but I can NOT see my post.Why?
anonymous from United Kingdom
Another scammer was ELENA BEREZINA ( SHE ALSO CALLS HERSELF : OLENA BEREZINA)
SHE WAS MEANT TO BE A CONFIRMED PROFILE ON ANASTASIA DATE.
THIS GIRL CLAIMED TO BE FROM : POLTAVA IN UKRAINE.
I THOUGHT I KNEW ALL THE TRICKS FROM BRAZILIAN GIRLS THAT HAVE LIED TO ME OVER THE YEARS.
Anyway this Girl is a serious scammer she 'mugged ' me out of a plane ticket after long detailed correspondence.
ALL OF THE LADIES I CHATTED AND EXCHANGED E- MAILS WITH ON ANASTASIA DATE OVER 3 YEARS WERE EITHER SCAMMERS OR FAKE PROFILES.
I STRONGLY ADVISE NOT JOINING ANASTASIA DATE. IT IS EXPENSIVE AND YOU COULD FLY TO UKRAINE AND POTENTIALLY MEET MANY HOT CHICKS NO DOUBT IN ANY CITY WITH CARE .
I HAD NO PROBLEM IN ARGENTINA AT AGE 40 MEETING LADIES 15 YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME AND SOME WERE 7 OUT OF 10 AND NEARLY SOME WERE 8 OUT OF 10.
BRAZIL HAD MANY GOLD DIGGERS. BRASILIAN GIRLS ARE A WASTE OF TIME AS UK IMMIGRATION RARELY LETS THEM IN WITH A BRASILIAN PASSPORT.
ONE FLIGHT TO HEATHROW HAD 14 TURNED BACK A FEW YEARS AGO. ALSO WATCH OUT FOR FAMILIES / FRIENDS ADVISING THEM HOW TO GET MONEY / PRESENTS OUT OF YOU.
IT IS BEST TO FIND CHICKS OUT OF TOWN IN SMALLER OF THE TOURIST TRAIL CITIES.
ANYWAY BEWARE OF ELENA BEREZINA OR OLENA BEREZINA AS SHE ALSO CALLS HERSELF . SHE IS A SERIOUS SCAMMER.
HER APPEARANCE IS 47 KILOS 5 ft 7 inches and long dark hair.
GOOD LUCK GUYS , BEWARE OF THESE VAMPIRE GIRLS.
anonymous from United Kingdom
ONE OTHER SCAMMER IS LARISSMA OR LORA LORIK AS SHE ALSO CALLS HERSELF.
SHE IS A HOT BLONDE , THIN AND VERY PRETTY .
ANOTHER TIP IS IF THEY THE MODEL TYPE GIRLS IN THE PROFILES ARE SO UNBELIVIABLY HOT LOOKING WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY BE ON A DATING WEBSITE.
I HAVE FOUND THAT THERE ARE SO MANY SCAMMERS ON THE DATING WEBSITE.
P.S., I CHECKED OUT A POTENTIAL TRIP TO BELARUS BUT VISA AND BIG VISA FEE RIP OFF.
I PLAN A TRIP POSSIBLY TO UKRAINE IF IT REMAINS SAFE BUT I WILL BE STAYING AWAY FROM PICK UP BARS AS I DON'T LIKE THESE MAFIA RUN PLACES.
ANOTHER SCAMMER IS LARISSMA , SHE HAS AN E- MAIL ADDRESS = LORA LORIK.
THIS ONE IN UKRAINE CLAIMED SHE WANTED A 220 US DOLLAR TAXI TO MEET ME.
SHE SAID SHE LIVED IN A WAR ZONE. WHEN I ASKED HER HOW COULD SHE TRAVEL THROUGH A WAR ZONE IN A TAXI SHE BROKE OFF COMMUNICATION.
BEWARE OF SCAMMERS LIVING IN DONETSK / LUGANSK AREA. IT IS A SCAMMER HOT BED PLACE IN UKRAINE.
I ALSO FOUND MANY OF THE SCAMMERS E- MAIL YOU UNBELIVIABLY PLAY BOY MODEL TYPE PHOTOS. THEY ALL CALL YOU HONEY / SAY I HAVE FOUND A NICE MAN etc.
DO NOT LET DOWNSTAIRS RULE UPSTAIRS.
ANOTHER TIP I WENT INTO K5 CLUB IN PRAGUE. IT WAS A WASTE OF TIME NO HOOKERS OVER A 6 OUT OF 10.
I HAVE SEEN STRIPPERS IN ARGENTINA THAT ARE 9 OUT OF 10.
I HAVE HEARD BAD REPORTS FROM FRIENDS ABOUT RIP OFFS IN BUDAPEST AND ALSO LATVIA / LITHUANIA.
BE CAREFUL ALSO IN BRAZIL; FRANKS BAR AND BARBERELLA ARE FULL OF SCAMMERS.
AS WAS HELP DISCOTECA IN THE OLD DAYS .
ALL THE BRASILIAN GIRLS CLAIM THERE MOTHER NEEDS AN OPERATION OR THERE CAT IS ILL OR THEY NEED TO PAY THERE RENT.
OR SOME OTHER CRAZY EXPENSIVE THING.
The average dating site pays these girls 60 cents a minute = $36 per hour = 291 UAH per hour. Incredible amount of money in Ukraine and shows why they are so keen to chat via dating sites all the time, often to more than one guy at a time.
When the economy in a particular country is bad and the job prospects poor, the girls don’t primarily want sex from foreigners, they want his resources ! To lock up those resources, she will dangle the prospect of sex until he becomes emotionally attracted to her. This is easy to see in places like Ukraine, where certain types of girls string along foreigners while maintaining sexual relations with their local boyfriends or they are often already married.
I tried to post Russian scammer but I can not my post,why?
wanwan from Japan
Hello my new friend Uri!
I am very glad you responded to my letter.
As you know my name is Svetlana. I'm 25, I live in Russia in the city
of Yekaterinburg. I can only hold a dialogue in English, so I'll just
write in English. I ask you to read my letter carefully, because I
know what I think of what I write. Based on your answers, I'll be
watching, whether it makes sense to continue our dialogue further or
not. To be honest, I do not like to be ignored. Just so happens that I
tell people about you, you can say that open the soul, but just ignore
it. By sending me letters just stale, and even sometimes forget to
change the name of the letter. This is very offensive to me and caused
a lot of pain in the past, I do not want this to happen again. Just do
not worry, I'm not angry. Do not jump to conclusions, read my letter
to the end and even then draw conclusions. In fact, I was very good
and friendly. It just makes life being careful and often rough due to
many cases of fraud and evil. Really like me, and I see that you care
about. Who knows what the end will have our correspondence, but I hope
that you and I will be a minimum of dear friends. I am a student and
now I am in Medical Academy, Yekaterinburg. But more about that in my
next letter. First to start a dialogue, I want to say right away that
the money I earn to live the dance striptease. And I do not think it's
shameful. I am not ashamed of my work. If this is contrary to your
moral and ethical principles, and do not want to talk to me, and can
save time and then do not read my letter. I like people who do not
fear the negative opinions of others about themselves, I like people
who are not afraid of the open expression of desire. I'm sorry if my
English is not very good. I could speak English, but, unfortunately, I
am writing in bad English. I hope you understand what I'm writing to
you. If you do not understand something, ask me about this. I like to
have fun, I love jokes, anecdotes, and I am very cheerful disposition.
With me will never get bored. With regard to age. I think the age is
not important in the relationship between human beings. The most
important thing is the ability to love and respect! It 's just love
real man really knows! The soul of a pure heart and the most important
components of the person. The age does not matter. As the saying goes,
love knows no age. I appreciate and love the people that are close to
me. I sincerely hope that we will be very close, because you really
like. Very rarely happens to me, someone I loved at first sight. They
are very demanding. But you did something once attracted. I do not
know what. It is just like me on a subconscious level. You know how it
happens, like a person, like another. All at a subconscious level. I
understand very well the people. I do not want to brag, but it's true.
Even if you are not too old, I was 25, but I had a hard life, and I
had to grow up quickly. I'm just waiting for someone to be protected,
but I just hope for me. It taught me to enjoy every moment of life,
never to lose heart and do not complain destiny. In fact, we have the
fate of the creators. Do you agree with me? I also want to discuss as
soon as a problem, a lot of hype on the internet, I was faced with
this, talking to people before. Lie with more lies and sometimes even
think that meets with no man, but with a computer program. I want to
be sure you're a real person, I want to call you. I want to hear your
voice and be confident that you're a real person. Enter your phone
number and I'll call you. I mean right away if you need only my erotic
photos, and if I was not interested in you as a person who does not
need to write something more. Many have tried to get cheated in my
photos. Someone told me that he loved me, making a series of
compliments, promising a lot of money, but if I do not like people, I
do not do these images for him. And as soon as people understand each
other, immediately disappeared. It 'was very painful and humiliating
for me. I do not care explicit images, I do very much like them. I
love it when I admired, that raises my spirit. But I do not want
someone made me. When I want to, I want to make explicit photos and
send them to you if you want. I hope to see your letter as soon as
possible. I would be very interested to learn more!! Tell me more
about myself, about the country, the city where you live. It 's very
interesting to me. I have for you and a great demand, please answer
all my questions and comment on what you think of everything that I
have written. It 's very important to me. Do not forget me, please
write as soon as possible. With best wishes!
wanwan from Japan
wanwan from Japan
wanwan from Japan
wanwan from Japan
Hello ! My name is Svetlana. I'm 25 old I the young, romantic woman, also I am very single. I very much like to travel, get acquainted with new people. I want to get acquainted with clever and kind the man to connect our destinies. I hope to find the real, pure love. I have found your profile, it is interesting to me, and want to find out more about you! Write to me if you have interest. I hope to have pleasant acquaintance. I can send my photos. I wait for your answer. Svetlana
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