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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-02-08, 18:42:13
anonymous from Australia  
Has anyone come in contact with a Ksenia from Kirov with an email reading ksenialady@rambler.au
I have started having my doubts since I have been reading all the coments on this sight.She comes across with very similar coments to most of the scammer 'ladies' here
2007-02-09, 09:53:17
anonymous from Argentina  
Seems we all fall for the same. This girl appears as Marinka from Cheboksary, Russia on Badoo.com



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2007-02-09, 16:17:54
anonymous from Australia  
Hi Guys,
Lots of scammers out there for sure. Someone with the name Diana and email address Pretty_barby@gawab.com tried to scam me... (I have photos) but you have to get up pretty early in the morning to put one over me!

By the 4th email she was telling me she 'loves me' 'I miss you' etc etc. I knew at that point it was a scam. When I asked her 'how can you say you love me when you have never even met me?', I never heard from her again. So much for her 'undying love'!

Anyway, yes there are scammers, but there are also some genuine Russian women.
I had a Russian girlfriend and believe me, if she is anything to go by, Russian women are truly extraordinary. She was young (23) and blonde, (I was 39 but looked 30), beautiful, very feminine, incredibly sexy and knew how to treat her man in every way.

The difference was that I met her in my own country on equal terms (she was here as a student). I even went to visit her in her country after she left, met her wonderful family. We had an amazing time and travelled together to the Greek Islands. I can honestly say it was the best time of my entire life. Ultimately, it didn't work out, but I still have the best memories I will always cherish. I love Russian women!

Just be careful guys!
2007-02-09, 20:49:06
anonymous from United States  
In the last week I have received 2 emails from Russian girls both with great eye appeal. Olga & Sasha. Both seemed to get my contact info from a True.com and contacted me through them. In there email they slip in there contact email address for you to contact them not using the true.coms site. I had not posted a picture on True.com site and both girls where about 25 and very attractive. I deleted one of the emails but here is Sasha. I have not been asked for money yet but I am very suspicious. I did not see her picture here but i think I saw Olga on another site.


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2007-02-09, 21:40:34
anonymous from United States  
Ok I thought I had deleted this photo but I found it. This is Olga. Both her and Sasha, there eamils are Olga is marilam@gmail.com. Sasha is sweetsnovembery@gmail.com

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Letters by dating scammer Olga Patsyuk from Saransk, Russia
Letters by dating scammer Olga Patsyuk from Saransk, Russia
Letters from dating scammer Olga in Russia



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2007-02-09, 21:43:05
anonymous from United States  
2007-02-09, 23:08:27
[hidden] from United States  
email: ksushakrasa@rambler.ru Anna Kulygina, Kseniya Grudtsina I blocked her scam


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2007-02-10, 09:29:41
Cecil_G_63@Yahoo.com from Chicago in Illinois, United States  
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Hello Guys, My Name Is Marvin.

You can reach me at Cecil_G_63@Yahoo.com

I am posting help links here. . .

I have Lots of stuff in my Yahoo notepad so I just copy and paste where need be.

My team and I are going to publish everything we gather ( a one-stop scam site for 411 on scammers with links to tools, advice and instruction as well as other educational stuff and thing that make you go 'h-m-m-m-m').

When we are ready we will post notice here.

In the mean time. . .

Me and the 7 others are working together to hinder/stop the scammer entity known as:

Vicktoriya (Victoriya/Viktoriya) Makarova (Macarova)...Nella Galiullina...Olga Romanskaya (Romenskaya)...Tanya Sosnina...Luliya ????...Yuliya (Yulia) Kamenschikova...Tatyana Zavagina (Zvyagina)...Marina Artemieva...

All together our beloved entity has at least 39 e-dresses and there are 3 more that do belong to a scammer - we do not know YET if it is our beloved.

There have been repeated calls for help so I thought that I better post this.

I am going to post this on V-maks other two dedicated pages on this site:
'Dating Scammer Vicktoriya (Vicktoriyamakarova@gmail.com) from Omsk, Russia'.
'Dating Scammer Greenday564@gmail.com from Tomsk, Russia'.



I do have lots more stuff and lots more links. . .

So, here goes and help yourselves. . .

Be careful and happy hunting. . .


Investigate aVerify:
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Some websites for your 411 and instruction so that you can effectively and efficiently investigate/verify - Passport/Visa, IPs, ISPs, Domain Names, Host Names, Pictures Sent:

http://www.immihelp.com
for U.S. Visa/Passport and Immigration 411 into the U.S.
Also, go to her countries embassy website and find out that same 411 in regards to her leaving her country.


To open full headers, for IP trace instructs and to trace email sender see:
http://www.aruljohn..dress.php
and
http://www.aruljohn../track.pl

and to verify IPs and e-dresses:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/
put IP or e-dress in 'IP. . .Look Up' window

http://headertool.a..m/headers
This one allows you to copy-paste the entire header for full e-sender disclosure

http://www.ripe.net
and
http://www.ripe.net..erl/whois
- deals with tracing/investigating

http://www.Whois-search.com
- deals with more detailed trace/tracking

http://www.inet-inv..ation.com
- same thing and chock full of 411.

http://www.Readnotify.com
- Traces/tracks and other email options such as self-destructing emails.
Hey - the scammers use these things - you do it too.

http://www.ImTranslator.net
- Free translation of foriegn language into english and english in to foriegn language.
Yes - scammers use this stuff too.
Not every scammer knows enough english to communicate with.
Enough of them don't.


http://www.Internic.net w/ whois search options.
- Traces Domains ( @yahoo.com, @bulvaras.net, and the like) and IP addresses.

http://www.infanview.com
- Traces photo EXIP Data ( picture 411).

Other things to do:

Find out about the customs, mannerisms, and other social status 411 and behaviors of your international woman.
-i.e., Russian women do not ask for money from anyone but family. To do otherwise brings on embarrassment and shame to the family.

Contact the Dating/Community/JobSearch websites that your scammer contacted you from.
- There are enough international sites that foriegn people do not have to 'sneek' on to a site. . .even true.com has an international affilliate.

Post on the Various Scam Sites:
Just Yahoo/Google 'Dating Scams', 'Romance Scams' and the like. . .
' http://www.Delphifaq.com > Outside the Cube > Dating Scams '. . .is a good place to start.

Investigate any E-flower/gift shops or any other business that these scammers send you too.

Check out :
http://www.phoneboo..world.com

Contact me if you need too

Marvin Cecil Gonzalez at Cecil_G_63@Yahoo.com
2007-02-10, 17:03:24
anonymous from United States  
this is evgeniya schegoleva from timnakov russia - probably spelled it all wrong. her email address is volkjenka@gawab.com..... i have been in contact with her daily, except sunday's, since november but have had suspicions since late november because she sent an email that was word for word from a previous 1, our 'dream' meeting. i was awesome as usual in the dream, haha. i feel bad, i actually was liking her even though i knew where this was heading. she tried to set the hook yesterday but unfortunately for her i got away. i've seen her here called tatyana too.... another place said her name was maria. this picture is the latest 1 i've gotten from her, but there are at least 10 more. i've seen the 1 in a bikini but havne't received it - i guess thats for special guys. good luck guys.
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Dating scammer Elena from Kazan, Russia



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2007-02-11, 00:59:43
anonymous from United States  
I have another one for you Guys out there beware!!!! saw her on another scammers site/she is good?
Look people I am just like you guys! and then I started to get second thoughts, so now I found this site
I have about 6-girls and out of 6 so far I know 4 that they are scammers they all ask me for money and how much they love me and all B.S, But I have found some reliable sites I will keep my eyes open for you all... Good luck!
they make up some agencies Like pilligrim@yahoo.com???????? I wish they where he or she where more creative! 007


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2007-02-11, 01:11:09
anonymous from United States  
This one I really like her untill one day I foun her in another scammers site?It was the same picture that she had recently
send me? she or he when along with my letters untill I got a e-mail You Lady no longer Blablabalblllaaaaa????
If you see her look out!007
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Dating scammer Diana (Dina) Kuzovleva



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2007-02-11, 21:32:57
anonymous from United States  
I was telling a few peolpe about this site and one of my friends got taken for about $3000.00!! The scam is to get a check from a relative of girl and cash it here useing your bank account to buy ticket or some thing. Then when the check bounces it is your loss. Here is a list of names of the girls I have been coresponding with.They are, Alexandra, Sasha or Sashenyka, & Olga. These girls seem too be a growing concern! Does anybody know if the law is involved?
2007-02-12, 04:13:47
anonymous from Italy  
2007-02-12, 09:43:23
anonymous from United States  
what is a good real website to try to meet a russian woman?
2007-02-12, 19:07:03
anonymous from France  
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receiving a great mail from a olga from Irkutsk in russia and after 3mails i prefered to check how it happen and then i found this site so thanks for the site and poor those who send money or feel something like love with these 'GIRL' here you are a mail adresse from olga obuvan@greatmailservices.biz
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Dating scammer ZHANNA (modified photo)
Dating scammer Natalia Tregoubova from Moscow or Yakutsk, Russia (modified photo)
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers (modified photo)
Dating scammer YANA TIHONOVA (modified photo)
Dating scammer Wera (modified photo)
Letters from dating scammer Maria in Omsk, Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Olga Chureeva from Russia (modified photo)



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