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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-06-27, 20:03:08
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.



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2007-06-27, 20:03:52
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.



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2007-06-27, 20:04:36
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.

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2007-06-27, 20:06:10
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.



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2007-06-27, 20:07:03
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.

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Dating scammer Irina from Chita, Russia



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2007-06-27, 20:08:08
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.

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2007-06-30, 04:32:18
anonymous from United States  
My 'Olga' has gotten a dye job! Beware!



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2007-07-03, 15:16:30
anonymous from United States  
Does anyone recognize this women? she has been contacting me a 'lisa' from phone # +74957851102, email address 'kasmerida@yahoo.com'.
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Dating scammer Ekaterina Piskur



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2007-07-03, 19:32:23
anonymous from United States  
Yep,she's on at least 2 other threads here.Click the blue link above the pic to find it.
2007-07-04, 01:28:17
anonymous from United States  
i have been writing to this girl MARIA for 2 years now and i'm so confused right now that i don't know what to do. she has said that she'd love to come over and be with me and she even called me and i got to talk to her a couple of times. does anyone know if a scammer would call you and talk to you on the phone? and i have another question and that is her e-mail address showed up on one web site about marriage scams but didn't show up anywhere else. is it possible for someone to use the same e-mail address without the owner of that e-mail address knowing about it? cause none of her pictures are on the scam list and she doesn't have but 2 profiles on 2 different sites and i checked on it and so did my friends. please help me find out.
2007-07-04, 11:56:11
anonymous from United States  
Yes,They do make phone call's,usually with a girl they pay to make them.How long do the call's last?Has she asked for money at all in those 2 yrs?Do you have her phone number? if so,google it and see if you get any hits.You did the e-mail addy,did you do the name too? 2 year's is not the usual MO but it's not inheard of.I had 2 that took me month's to find anything on,they used pic's that have never been used before and didn't use 'form letters'.One way to check is to look at{or post here}the full header from a letter and see if the IP address is from where she claims to be.If not it's a scam.I suggest you read some of the thread's here and the info at the top of this one to see if anything look's familiar letter wise.Does ahe answer your question's?Since you're here asking about her you must be suspicious for some reason,what is it?Hope this helps.
2007-07-04, 18:07:28
fredbrook@gmail.com from United States  
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Regarding your question on scammers calling and on email addresses. First, it is not possible for multiple people to have the same email address. Email addresses must be unique within email service. Second, yes, scammers often do call. It is not really expensive for them to do so and it is a means of allegedly proving that they are real and that their intentions are genuine. In and of itself, it does not prove a thing. I had a scammer call me often, and I mean often, and she eventually became exposed as a major scammer. She called me at work, at home, in the car, etc. If your lady is identified as a scammer on another site, it is almost certain she is a full-fledged scammer and I would be wary of her.
2007-07-05, 14:59:05
travelmanmw@aol.com from United States  
thanks nice page good info ,another good scam is go to dating page, she emails you back to contact her at a more discreat location and her # and more pics. are there and you have to pay to enter her address,

so here what I send them;

Hey?????????, its to bad your just another one of those phishers, what a pathetic joke, I am a career man have my shit together and my time is worth min. $100 hr and that’s just for advice, if I wanted the run around I would of went to the track and bet on the 50 to 1 horse, so if your interested in a gentleman date you know my email, otherwise my number is not in the book or on a web page and the most discreet way to transmit is via personal email, and if you think that’s private you would be amazed at what I could find out about you if I wanted to waste my time at $100 hr. this email just cost me $25


Well maybe you would like to get together we will have to see.??????????????????????????????????????

I HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS ALMOST WORD FOR WORD DO YOU IDIOTS HAVE A SCRIPT THAT YOU FOLLOW, AND IS THERE REALLY DUMB ASSES THAT FALL FOR THIS SHIT MAYBE I NEED A NEW CARREER.

BE CAREFUL THE TRAVELMAN MIGHT HUNT YOU DOWN.
2007-07-06, 11:26:36   (updated: 2007-07-06, 11:27:23)
anonymous from United States  
Hey, travelmanmw@aol.com. You're so smart and educated and sooo expensive, then how come you can't even write English. '... I would of went to the track ...' Go get some English lessons with all the money you make.
2007-07-07, 10:30:10
anonymous  
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