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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-02-07, 04:27:14
OJAS from United States  
2008-02-07, 06:38:24
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-02-07, 17:01:51
[hidden] from United States  
Hi. My name is Lee. I had been talking to a girl from Russia. She later said she put up money to come to America but needed more money to make this happen. Then I found her photo on this site. When I asked her about it and showed it to her, of course she was shocked and 'deeply saddened' that someone would smear her name. I replied, asking her to explain how the photos she sent to me ended up on this site. While awaiting her reply, she sent me the following as though nothing had been discussed about finding her on a dating scammers site:

Hello my darling Lee!!!How are you? Today I have not received from you the letter!!! My darling Lee, I do not understand, why you have not writtento me today? I so strongly wait your letters, they so are strongly necessary to me!!! To me very sadly to understand, that you have not written to me! I very strongly love you, I miss on you!!! You are very necessary to me!!! You understand me??? When you do not write to me, it seems to me, that from my life something was gone important!!! And when I receive your letters, to me becomes so warmly and well, I as if fly on invisible wings! My gentle Lee, I with huge impatience will wait for yourfollowing letter to me! I ask you write to me, write to me why you have not written to me? In expectation of your answer....With love and gentle kisses yours Svetlana.
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Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2008-02-07, 21:19:40
anonymous from United States  
BAD THING to do! NEVER EVeR give a scammer or suspected scmmer a link or ANY other info about them being on one of these sites!!!
2008-02-08, 00:40:21
anonymous from South Africa  
hi.
its Rudi again.
the woman i asked about call herself anna.she gave me a no to call.she said her fone is broken and her friend[alena] ,i can call her on +380660660417 between 2 -4 pm,when they together at the library to study.
what i can add is that within 2days i asked to speak to her she gave me the no of her friend.
i include another pic.her email is nechaevaanya@ukr.net
thanx


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2008-02-08, 00:48:00
anonymous from South Africa  
hi.
Rudi here.
anna also lives in ukrain,Rivne.
she stydy at Rivnens'kij universaty in the department of linguistic.english and ukrainian languages.
a pic of her at universaty.


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2008-02-08, 00:53:57
anonymous from South Africa  
do u know what is the prosedure if a woman fron ukrain wants to come to south africa.
2008-02-08, 02:15:29   (updated: 2008-02-08, 02:20:48)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Your Embassy knows:


Embassy of South Africa in Moscow, Russia
Granatny Per., 1
building 9
Moscow 103102
Russia

Phone: +7 (095) 540 11 77
Fax: +7 (095) 540 11 78

http://www.learn4go..ssies.htm

The email is here http://www.embassie..rica#3140

2008-02-08, 03:06:11   (updated: 2008-02-08, 03:54:36)
[hidden] from United States  
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Nataliya Bobrova....I am currently sending and receiving e-mail from a Nataliya Bobrova from Kazan Russia.
2008-02-08, 06:10:17
anonymous  
2008-02-08, 15:03:32   (updated: 2008-02-08, 15:04:45)
anonymous from Colombia  
hello guys can you tell me if this girllCalled olga Zykova. from kirow have you ever received a similar lletter for her. aim enclosed the pictures of her sincerely


Baxter

Hi my new friend Baxter!

Today I received your first letter. I am very glad it to see from you.
I have a desire will better get acquainted with you, and to learn about you as much as possible.
I ask you that wrote to me, it is as much as possible letters.
And in the letters told about themselves and about the life more.
As I wish you to ask, that you have sent me even one photo.
I wish to see your person and your appearance. I shall send you the photos.
Now I to you shall a little tell about myself that you knew who I such.
My name Olga, my surname Zykova.
Now to me of full 26 years. I was born on October, 28th, 1981.
I was born in small city which refers to Kirov.
My city is in the center of Russia. It very small, therefore is not present it on a card.
Till now I live in this city. Also I do not gather yet where to leave.
My city very beautiful, especially in the winter it is fine.
I live together with the father in a two-room apartment in the center of the city.
I do not have either brothers, or sisters. I one daughter in family.
To me very painfully to speak, but I do not have mum. It has died.
I do not have computer of the house! I should write to you letters from the Internet of cafe.
I work in children's city hospital.
My trade the children's doctor. I already for a long time have grown fond of children.
Here therefore I have chosen this trade. And now every day I help children.
But I while do not have children. But I wish to have the child.
I at all do not know, how many I wish to give birth to children.
But one I know precisely! I love children!
For all life I did not meet any man which I could grow fond.
During already many time I even do not have friend.
I could not find in my city to myself worthy the man.
But often happens, that men try to look after me.
But I refuse to all of them at once. Because they do not like me.
Now I have decided to try to find the the man in the Internet.
To me my girlfriend has advised it to make. I have decided to try.
During free time from work I like to read romantic books.
To which it is written about love. As I like to read ridiculous books.
Sometimes houses I listen to music which calms me.
Happens, that I with girlfriends I go to theatre, cinema or a museum.
At me many good girlfriends, with the majority from which I work in hospital.
Very much I like to go in for sports. Sports help me to be the healthy person.
By means of sports I support the figure in the good form.
For a week I happen 4 times in a sports hall, I am engaged in fitness.
When there is a good weather, we with friends like to be on the nature.
And now I wish to set to you some the questions.
Also I want, that you have answered them fairly:
Why you have decided to find the love in the Internet?
At you it has not turned out to find to itself the beloved in the city?
How many you of time search to itself for the girl on the Internet?
You correspond with girls from Russia or with other girls?
It is important to me to know: how old are you, in what city you live, as your full name.
And I want, that you have in detail written all about yourselves.
Now I finish the first letter and with impatience I shall look forward to hearing from you.
If you write to me the answer I with pleasure shall write to you the following letter.
In which again I shall try to tell about myself and about the life.
By the way I wish to know:
On what sites you have still your structures?
I wish to look them as I shall see there your photos.
Write to me please these sites if they in general at you are.

Your new friend Olga!


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2008-02-08, 15:05:46
anonymous from Colombia  
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hello guys can you tell me if this girllCalled olga Zykova. from kirow have you ever received a similar lletter for her. aim enclosed the pictures of her sincerely


Baxter

Hi my new friend Baxter!

Today I received your first letter. I am very glad it to see from you.
I have a desire will better get acquainted with you, and to learn about you as much as possible.
I ask you that wrote to me, it is as much as possible letters.
And in the letters told about themselves and about the life more.
As I wish you to ask, that you have sent me even one photo.
I wish to see your person and your appearance. I shall send you the photos.
Now I to you shall a little tell about myself that you knew who I such.
My name Olga, my surname Zykova.
Now to me of full 26 years. I was born on October, 28th, 1981.
I was born in small city which refers to Kirov.
My city is in the center of Russia. It very small, therefore is not present it on a card.
Till now I live in this city. Also I do not gather yet where to leave.
My city very beautiful, especially in the winter it is fine.
I live together with the father in a two-room apartment in the center of the city.
I do not have either brothers, or sisters. I one daughter in family.
To me very painfully to speak, but I do not have mum. It has died.
I do not have computer of the house! I should write to you letters from the Internet of cafe.
I work in children's city hospital.
My trade the children's doctor. I already for a long time have grown fond of children.
Here therefore I have chosen this trade. And now every day I help children.
But I while do not have children. But I wish to have the child.
I at all do not know, how many I wish to give birth to children.
But one I know precisely! I love children!
For all life I did not meet any man which I could grow fond.
During already many time I even do not have friend.
I could not find in my city to myself worthy the man.
But often happens, that men try to look after me.
But I refuse to all of them at once. Because they do not like me.
Now I have decided to try to find the the man in the Internet.
To me my girlfriend has advised it to make. I have decided to try.
During free time from work I like to read romantic books.
To which it is written about love. As I like to read ridiculous books.
Sometimes houses I listen to music which calms me.
Happens, that I with girlfriends I go to theatre, cinema or a museum.
At me many good girlfriends, with the majority from which I work in hospital.
Very much I like to go in for sports. Sports help me to be the healthy person.
By means of sports I support the figure in the good form.
For a week I happen 4 times in a sports hall, I am engaged in fitness.
When there is a good weather, we with friends like to be on the nature.
And now I wish to set to you some the questions.
Also I want, that you have answered them fairly:
Why you have decided to find the love in the Internet?
At you it has not turned out to find to itself the beloved in the city?
How many you of time search to itself for the girl on the Internet?
You correspond with girls from Russia or with other girls?
It is important to me to know: how old are you, in what city you live, as your full name.
And I want, that you have in detail written all about yourselves.
Now I finish the first letter and with impatience I shall look forward to hearing from you.
If you write to me the answer I with pleasure shall write to you the following letter.
In which again I shall try to tell about myself and about the life.
By the way I wish to know:
On what sites you have still your structures?
I wish to look them as I shall see there your photos.
Write to me please these sites if they in general at you are.

Your new friend Olga!
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Natalia Tregoubova from Moscow or Yakutsk, Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Marina from Olha near Irkutsk in Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Marina from Olha near Irkutsk in Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Marina from Olha near Irkutsk in Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Marina from Olha near Irkutsk in Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Natalja (Natalia) from Berdsk, Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Natalia Tregoubova from Moscow or Yakutsk, Russia (modified photo)



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2008-02-08, 16:13:58
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from Colombia

This is 100% scam. Pictures of this girl are all over the website. She is a model from Ukraine and these photos are stolen

Try this link: http://www.delphifa..?p=2#52222
2008-02-08, 16:23:11
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Anon Colombia,

Eddie is right about the girl in the pictures.

Some additional Google-info on Olga Zykova...

http://www.easyfind..le/17466/

http://www.facebook..756194271

http://www.wayn.com..=10760498

2008-02-08, 16:33:24
OJAS from United States  
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