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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-02-16, 12:43:49
anonymous  
For Rudis and nice real Girl Anna or Anja!


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2008-02-16, 18:34:06
anonymous  
SCAMMER Blinova, Julia / Vita / Bezruchko, Natalya from - Nikolayev, Ukraine



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2008-02-16, 18:37:24
anonymous  
SCAMMER Blinova, Julia / Vita / Bezruchko, Natalya from - Nikolayev, Ukraine
Phone: +380979545909
Age: 27
Location details: Ukraine
Postal address: 54031Nikolaev,Kosmonavtov 142.158
Phone number: 00380-512-237777



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2008-02-16, 18:38:18
anonymous from Germany  
SCAMMER Blinova, Julia / Vita / Bezruchko, Natalya from - Nikolayev, Ukraine
Phone: +380979545909
Age: 27
Location details: Ukraine
Postal address: 54031Nikolaev,Kosmonavtov 142.158
Phone number: 00380-512-237777


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2008-02-16, 18:55:33
anonymous  
First Name: Margarite /Blinova, Julia/ Natalya Bezruchko/Vita/ Andrey Shepel
Location: Ukraine, Other
Age: 27
Birth Date: 30-09-1980

# Name: Natalya Bezruchko
# E-mail: u-ni@yandex.ru
# Address: Ukraine , Nikolaev
# Phone: +380979545909
# Seen at: GL Globaladies.com

# Dangerous: 87%

more information only for paid member...

# First reported: Jarmo Salminen
# Date: 2005-03-08



Dearest, I need $65 to pay my month's Internet. I think that one month will be enough to learn each other and our feelings. For Western Union you need to know info which I gave you below:

Full name: .......Andrey Shepel............ (it's my brother's name,

I have not my passport for now, because it's a pledge for our apartment)
Address: Ukraine, Nikolaev (it's will enough)
Then, you will get 10-digital number. I need this # when I will get the money. Please help me and we will correspond everyday. Honey, it's very big money. Can you send me it or you can't to send so much money? You want to phone me? Ok. Call me, tel. +38-067-7814951


Comment from Hans
I have been in touch with this lady 'Natalya Besruhko' for almost 6 months. This is a scammer with a LOT of patience. She has been able to keep up correspondence all this time without having directly asked me for money. Only hinting at the fact that she does not earn much, that she has to support her parents with her small salary, that she has a grandmother with a bad heart (who of course needs to have expensive medication.. which she pays for) and that she does not travel because of lack of money. I have never sent her money BTW. It was funny to read that she has written to you too, Laurent. She must have been all confused with the one the was corresponding with and thought that you were me (or v.v.). Tsk tsk.. very sloppy of her. She did not send me the pictures I see on this site. The pictures I received were from a very good-looking blond girl. I found her on www.e-russian-brides.net ID 1151749961 (profile removed now). Her so-called address: Ukraine,Zelenodolsk city, Kosmonavtov str. 12,38. Email ukrgirl08@yandex.ru. I got some red signals and got suspicious, so I looked for her name on the internet. I found her on http://www.russian-..l_Ukraine/ and confronted her with this. She answered me that this must have been done by a man that she had rejected in the past.


Comment from Fred
I also correspond with this women, she used the name Bezryshko Natalia Victorovna, her address was Kosmonavtov str 154-23 Nikolayev, this is for sure the same id# RL72063029 at russianladies.com but they blocked her for scamming on august 28, 2006. She used different picture of a younger women.

I would like to report to them about a swindler I have found on New-Dating. Their Announcement:natali id: 30458
I send you Passport and three transfers of western union. The address of Nataly and phone number and mobile number.
Address Nataly: Nataly Bezruchko (27J).
Nikolaev---the Ukraine
email{enamel}: u-ni@yandex.ru <mailto:u-ni@yandex.ru>
Kosmonavtov 142.158
Phone: 512-237777 families
Mobile (mobile): 097-9545909

Greeting Wolfgang
I have got to know at an agency a woman with I since August a narrower one E-mail contact has had. Nataly lives in Nikolaev. She wanted to get to know me and I should visit them in Nikolaev. .I had informed her I have only again vacation in June. However, she wanted to see me rather and I sent her one invitation and money for visas and journey to Germany. She said that to me her visas has been rejected. I have transferred 200 euros to her for visas and journey to Germany.
My friends from the Ukraine and Russia have called up her and now them demanded what she wants to do because she had got no visas. She said that them marriage visas wants to do because it loves me and wants to be with me. I have sent her once more an invitation and all papers for the marriage visas and euros. She has written to me that are done all papers by a company for 175,- euros in Nikolaev. My friends have called up her 2 weeks later because they wanted to know as far them with the papers is. She said that the company in Nikolaev to them of the police it was closed because of white slave trade and all papers 50 women were confiscated by chance. The company in Nikolaev calls Milena Treid. My friends have also trusted her and me. Whether there has been the company, unfortunately, I could not ascertain. Has done my papers all once more and has sent her. She wanted to discontinue her work to finish everything faster. I have transferred her 400,- euros with it she had money to the life and for papers and journey. I and my friends have trusted her. I do not trust every woman, but she really did a serious impression. I do not know on account of everything is right. My friends{acquaintances} have found them in several agencies and have put to the proof them. They have sent several e-mails and she has answered. In 4 mails she has written to him he should send her fast an invitation and 350,-euros. She wanted fast to him and with him Christmas and New Year's Eves to celebrate. She has also sent him a copy of her passport. It is the same{identical} copy I has also agreed. However, she had said to us that was confiscated her identity card with all her papers by the police. If they can say to me what I can do against this woman undertake. I will retrieve my money probably no more, but, nevertheless, it must possibly his to these women the craft to lay with it they cannot cheat the men further. I hope that them can help me and waits for an answer of them.
With friendly greeting



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2008-02-16, 19:00:24
anonymous  
Natalya Bezruchko/Vita/ Andrey Shepel from Nikolayev


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2008-02-16, 19:03:56
anonymous from Germany  
Scammmer Natalya Bezruchko/Vita/ Andrey Shepel from Nikolayev


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2008-02-17, 00:26:02
anonymous from Australia  
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Hi Fellas, Great site. I have been emailing a girl from Moscow now for 2 months. I took your advice and looked up the IP addresses. The first one 213.180.200.213 is in Moscow, while the second one on the message 77.40.4.245 is from Yoshkar -Ola. This is no doubt a scam? Thanks for any info.
2008-02-17, 00:39:35
Peter from Germany  
Australia
Pretending to be from Moscow with an IP from Yoshka: Scam!!

Please if you spare the time play along till you get 'her' money request and then open a new thread. Or add your data somewhere where you find her pics by the pic search below.

Sorry for you - two month, that's a pretty long time.
2008-02-17, 03:23:21
anonymous from Australia  
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Hi Peter, Thanks for your quick response. I probably should have explained that the first 2 sets of IP's on the message were the same but the 3rd one was 245.4 dialup.mari-el.ru. Is it possible that this was the server or internet provider? keep up the good work. I have uncovered what I think is another scammer over here and I am going to run this little bitch from one side of Russia to the other!
2008-02-17, 04:07:46
Peter from Germany  
Australia, the last IP is always the one from the sender. Btw, the little bitch probably has got no clue what her pics are misused for.
2008-02-17, 05:44:28
anonymous from Australia  
Oksanashish50 E-mail Address(es): Oksanashish50@yandex.ru

Hello my loved David.

How at you an affair? I very urgently love you, and I want our
meeting. I without you cannot. I want to be with you. You, which first
person I so am urgently similar. You my which first person I so
strongly like. I trust you. I know that you never will deceive me. I
want to be with you. I want to live you.

Tomorrow I shall go to travel agency, and I study all on the account
of our meeting. I cannot wait for our meeting more. I want to meet you
at the airport more soon to capture and kiss. That you think about our
meetings.. Write to me. Tomorrow I shall write to all of you on the
account of our meeting.

P.S My favourite yes I speak in English.

With love Oksana.



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2008-02-17, 05:47:48
davdickinson@optusnet.com.au from Australia  
Oksanashish50 E-mail Address(es): Oksanashish50@yandex.ru

Hello my love David.
How are you?
At me all is good.
How weather at you?
At us weather today simply magic, because today at us in city very warmly,
And consequently such weather very much is pleasant to me.
I very much love warm weather because I like warm weather.
At us in city brightly the sun today shines, the warm wind blows.
And consequently it is very pleasant for me to feel a touch of a warm wind
On my person and on my body.
You are not present near to me, but I so would like to feel a touch
Your hands on my person.
I very much want, that ironed my hair, touched my hair,
Caressed my body, kissed my lips.
I very much would want, that we were with you together, my love!!!
You would like it?
I think, that my dreams will be carried out only at our meeting with you,
my love.
What you think in this occasion?
I always think of our forthcoming meeting with you, my love.
I think that our meeting will be, as in a fairy tale.
You think as well as I whether or not?
I sometimes so would like you to embrace, kiss, touch your breast.
But you are not present near to me, and I so would like it!!!
I think that have found such person who is necessary for me.
Which me will understand, think always of me.
And this person - you!!!
I am grateful to destiny, that I have met you, my love!!!
I always asked when our meeting with you will be a reality.
And now I ask you, my love!
What you think of our meeting with you?
When our meeting becomes a reality?
Mine daddy asked me that I transferred you
Big and ardent greetings, and also the most strong embraces.
Accept and from me my most sincere wishes, my most sincere
And passionate air kisses, and also my the hottest and ardent
Embraces from my loving heart.
You would like to feel my passionate kisses, and my passionate embraces
from
My loving heart?
I dream of feeling your passionate kisses and hot embraces.
Sometimes your kisses, both your passionate and strong embraces at night
dream me,
But when I wake up you was not present near to me.
To me it becomes very sad!!!
I so want to be with you, my love!!!
You would like it, my charm?
And now my time has approached to the end, and it is time to me to leave,
But I leave with ideas on you, my love!!!
Remember, that I love you!!!

P.S My love you will give me the full phone number.

Yours Oksana!!!
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2008-02-17, 05:48:26
davdickinson@optusnet.com.au from Australia  
Oksanashish50 E-mail Address(es): Oksanashish50@yandex.ru

Hello my love David.
How are you?
At me all is good.
How weather at you?
At us weather today simply magic, because today at us in city very warmly,
And consequently such weather very much is pleasant to me.
I very much love warm weather because I like warm weather.
At us in city brightly the sun today shines, the warm wind blows.
And consequently it is very pleasant for me to feel a touch of a warm wind
On my person and on my body.
You are not present near to me, but I so would like to feel a touch
Your hands on my person.
I very much want, that ironed my hair, touched my hair,
Caressed my body, kissed my lips.
I very much would want, that we were with you together, my love!!!
You would like it?
I think, that my dreams will be carried out only at our meeting with you,
my love.
What you think in this occasion?
I always think of our forthcoming meeting with you, my love.
I think that our meeting will be, as in a fairy tale.
You think as well as I whether or not?
I sometimes so would like you to embrace, kiss, touch your breast.
But you are not present near to me, and I so would like it!!!
I think that have found such person who is necessary for me.
Which me will understand, think always of me.
And this person - you!!!
I am grateful to destiny, that I have met you, my love!!!
I always asked when our meeting with you will be a reality.
And now I ask you, my love!
What you think of our meeting with you?
When our meeting becomes a reality?
Mine daddy asked me that I transferred you
Big and ardent greetings, and also the most strong embraces.
Accept and from me my most sincere wishes, my most sincere
And passionate air kisses, and also my the hottest and ardent
Embraces from my loving heart.
You would like to feel my passionate kisses, and my passionate embraces
from
My loving heart?
I dream of feeling your passionate kisses and hot embraces.
Sometimes your kisses, both your passionate and strong embraces at night
dream me,
But when I wake up you was not present near to me.
To me it becomes very sad!!!
I so want to be with you, my love!!!
You would like it, my charm?
And now my time has approached to the end, and it is time to me to leave,
But I leave with ideas on you, my love!!!
Remember, that I love you!!!

P.S My love you will give me the full phone number.

Yours Oksana!!!
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2008-02-17, 05:54:53
davdickinson@optusnet.com.au from Australia  
This girl has been writing me for 1 week, now she is in love...
Does anyone know her.. Please let this one be a scam.. David

mashakarlova@yahoo.com E-mail Address(es):mashakarlova@yahoo.com

Hi to you, my sensible love David!!!!!!! i hope that you are ok and that you are smiling and laughing as it means that you have a good mood, don't you? you know, to tell you the truth it is very hard for me to have the mood like this right now as i know that you are not with me and it is so hard for me, as you see, i am missing you and thinking of you all the time and it is so frustrating as i have even lost some weight cause of my worries!!! it is said that if you lose the weight with no reason then it means that you are in love!:) have you known about that??? well, you do now if you didn't before!

i think it is the most important for two people to feel each other!!!! to know that you are together in spite of anything and to support each other in all the life situations and i am sure that there can be plenty of them! i am sure that it is possible for us to be together and to feel that we are together in spite of anything! for example i already feel that you are very much important to me and all this what is happening between us i can call dating! yes, particularly dating! although it is considered to be that dating is when people see each other, but anyway, feeling each other is more important. don't you agree??? do you feel me? speaking about me, i do feel you! i do feel your presence and i am sure that you would be ready to support me in the case of necessity because first of all i know that you are the best for me and secondly i know that you are a real gentleman who likes taking care of his lady, am i wrong??? i am sure that i am not! i am sure that i am right! i am sure that you are very special! i am just missing you very much and just wanted to let you know how i am feeling about you... hope you understand now...

Love you

Kisses

Yours, Masha


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