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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-03-13, 15:00:10
Fjellhare  
2008-03-13, 09:23:04
anonymous

Hello everybody, hello anon from australia, I guess you are right...as soon as I put pictures about scammers in this forum.....they stop contact by email with me.....I guess that the scammers are checking this site and another sites....and again thanks for this site, with the information that you give in this site I can identify scammers very fast....



...I do not agree with this....I had contact to fat Boris until the money letter, though posting all stuff!

good hunting and greetings

Blondhunter
2008-03-13, 15:04:30
anonymous from Greece  



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2008-03-13, 15:23:55
anonymous from France  
2008-03-13, 16:12:29
Fjellhare  
OJAS


'I am NOT an ANGLO-CHAUVINIST!! '


I never ever said that....I know who you are in real life...LOL....do not worry....

I am in some way tired of this scammer bullshit, but I will go on posting my stuff at the Osinniki threat


good night

Blondhunter
2008-03-13, 19:49:42
anonymous from United States  
I have been receiving emails from a lady named Olda, She has now asked me for money or even hinted at it but when I checked her IP address I got this. She is using the Bat and is also from a known scammer region (I think). Should I be worried?


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2008-03-13, 21:05:43
paddy54au@yahoo.com.au from Melbourne, Australia  
I have been receiving and replying to this girl does anyone recognise her?

Hello!

My name is Alexandra! I am 28 years old.
Now I have an opportunity to write to you I am an interesting,
beautiful, kind, and single young lady. I want to find my love, my half and
want to marry him. I am looking for a man who will fall in love with me
and I will fall in love with him. I have never been married but I dream
about it. I am fond of children and I dream about a happy family with
the beloved man. I am interested in music, cooking, reading, traveling
and others. I know English very good and can easily speak.

If you are interested in me please write me on my e-mail: ershistaya@gmail.com

Please write me and I will send you my photos.
I wait for your letter very much.
Alexan.





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2008-03-14, 08:15:00
anonymous from France  
2008-03-15, 06:02:19
Dirk from Netherlands  
Anon USA (about Yoshkar Ola),

Please, visit the site of RussianDetectives.com. You'll find a contactaddress there. Ask them about it. The answer will probably be:

RussianDetectives did research on hundreds of names and addresses of 'women' in Yoshkar Ola. None of them were real.

Don't worry. Be careful.
2008-03-15, 06:08:42
D-From,Canada from United States  
I got the money letter yesterday that was quick!

Hello my Dear D-from Canada!!!

Today I have contacted with the travel agent who made my trip to
London. I have asked him to advise me any good agent in Moscow. And I
have received the answer. He has told, that they have their partners
in Moscow. This is a Travel agency, calls Travelbooms. It's their
website: http://travelbooms.com .

I have received the answer from the manager of travel agency. he has
told to me, that the ticket and other documents will cost
approximately 1200 USD. Ticket There and back for the period of 3
months. I only should know in what airport I should fly? I think, that
I can fly to you from Russia approximately on March, 29. What do you
think of it? I very much would want to visit your country, but I am
afraid, because I have paid for the ticket to Russia and now I have
only 500 $ .

Now I know nothing lovely. You are very hot man.... I like it!!! But I
shall cool you when I'll come lol Because I'm hotter..... I think,
that our first night..... wow.... no I should not think about it becau
se I'm starting to excite..... Stop!!! Lovely, I want to be with you
as soon as possible!!! I want to embrace you... To look in your
eyes.... To feel your sweet kiss.... mmmmmmmmm....... well why????
Where have you been???? Why we could not get acquainted earlier????
Why???? I do not know what had happened with me...... I do not
understand. But I know, that I want to be with you!!!!!! Yes, when
I'll come, I'll not give you to sleep in the first night!!! So, be
ready. I did not have a man for a long time..... So..... I cannot
stop.... I should think of you...... Only you are in my mind. I cannot
believe!!! I cannot believe that you are really exists. There's no
such man like you......... You are an angel!! And you were sent to me
by the God!! Probably it is the answer!! I do not know...... Probably
I'm crazy..... I need to have some medicine treatment....... But the
only medicine which can save me - D-from Canada!!! This medicine is necessary
for me!!! I miss you so much!!!

Ok lovely.... I need to have a rest. Now I shall take the shower....
ohhhhhhhhh..... I'd like that you were here now..... mmmmmmm........
WHERE ARE YOU??????????

I'm waiting for your letter.

BIGGGGGGGGGGGGG Kisssssssssssssssss

Your Diana.

Sorry, no money here! Can't get blood from a Rock. OPPS, did I forget to mention that I am unemployed currently? No I did mention it and the letters still came, guess she missed that part.



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2008-03-15, 22:36:27
anonymous from Brazil  
Natalia (vennnesuellondo@rambler.ru)
Gostaria de saber se alguém conhece este email. tenho recebido mensagens desta pessoa, e da Russia,e ela ja pediu dinheiro para vir ao Brtasil!! aguardo resposta no email.
2008-03-17, 09:51:10
Tony from United States  
Well, back it seems with some good luck. I have been getting emails from this person. Check out what they are using. It's got to be a scam!

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I was really excited while i was waiting for your letter.
Thanks that you told me everything what you think.
Thanks for your letter. You wrought me and it means i will have one more happy day.
I want do tell you about my day. I wake up at about 6:30 in the morning with very good spirit,
because i see you in my dreams. At 6:35 i take a shower and clean my teeth. And i think about you!!!
At 6:45 i put my sport suit and go out. And i think about you!!!
I always jogging in the morning if it's not too cold to be in good fit.
But when it is, i wake up at 7 and at 7:20 i make my breakfast: tea and sandwitch.
I drink tea And i think about you!!! At 7:30 i go to my work.
If it's warm i go on foot And i think about you!!! I like walking in the morning,
it gives me energy and fun. At 7:55 i go to my friend's working room and get your letter if it's possible.
Or i do it later. At 8:00 I start working And i think about you!!! At 12:30 i have a break.
I go home And I go home by trolleybus.
At 13:00 i have lunch and at 13:20 i go to work And i think about you!!!
At 13:50 i start working again And i think about you!!! Thought i must be very concentrated on my job:)
At 15:30 we usually have small break for a cup of tea,
but today i didn't take it because i thought about you!!!
At 17:00 i go home on foot. I feel very good because I think about you!!!
At 17:40 i take a shower and i think that You are with me!!! :))
At18:00 I have my dinner along but i smile because i think that You are near me:)
Sometimes i walk with my friend at the park at 19:00 And i think about you!!!
If i stay home i read books, listen to musik, watch tv or work around the house And i think about you!!!
Not everything at the same time:)) At 23:00 i go to bed and i fall asleep
quickly because And i think about you!!!
Today i was at the bank with Elena. We asked about the money of my husband.
I feeled some papers and now we must wait for their reply.
Hope i will get the visa that's why please wright me the name of the nearest international airport. Will you meet me there?
But don't think it's my casual life! Every day i have something new especially WHEN I THINK ABOUT YOU.
Only yours Olga



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2008-03-17, 13:24:54   (updated: 2008-03-17, 13:38:26)
jaffa from United Kingdom  
yes!! we have a winner, only took a week to get to the crunch, definately a scammer isn't she? checked the i.p & its anonymous???

From: Oksana
To: *******
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:43 PM
Subject: Travel info!!!!


******!!!
Hello! Excuse me that I could not write to you earlier.....
I'm writing to you as soon as I can!!!!!! I was busy with many
arrangements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also I had to repeat some words
for my English test and I finally passed my test today morning!!!
Today I was in the travel agency and I received an information about my trip!
I will be very thankful to you if you can meet me at the Airport!


>>>>!!!!!I will arrive to you on Sunday, 23 March!!!!!!<<<<
More in detail about flight look at the end of the letter.
I copied the information of agency


I hope so much it's a good day for you to meet me!


I am so glad to see that we are almost near our goal,and our meeting
wait for us. I think I will call you from airport before my flight.
You know I booked tickets on Sunday flight and I will buy them before
my intervew. People from embassy must be sure that I am not going to stay illegally,
so I need to buy roundtrip tickets (with returning date).
I wanted to ask you about electronic tickets but they tell that
I can't use because it is their businees to arrange all travel details
and they have some extra money from all the things,
you see it is just business.I think that you will be able to help me
because I don't know anybody here and only you are my hope now,
I think everything in your hands and I believe that you will not leave
me here alone.please borrow some money. I am sure I will be able to return all your money
back after a few weeks, I will get salary and I will collect the sum I own from you.
To be fair I am not sure I know what to say because I hate to ask but
now I have no different way, you see.Please help me it is only money
and much more important if we will meet in person I will do my
best, you won`t be disappoined. I see that it sounds a little crazy
but I can't believe that in the worst case I have to return
home,they all will laugh at me.I think it rests with you to decide and I feel that
you will help me because you are kind. I have about 300 US dollars yet and I think
I need about 980 US dollars from your side with all travel needs and living here till my
flight! (I had 1180 dollars, but flight from Abakan, opening visa, medical
insurance and all travel needs costed about 800 dollars).
For truth I didn`t expect I will need to buy roundtrip tickets, but now
I see that its a very strict rule.
I was sure that my mom will help me becasue she promised but now she
sent letter that it is possible only in a few months or so because of
family problems.and she can't send transfer now.I was in the bank to
try to ask them about loan but they tell I have to have something to stay them
and I have nothing to stay because I have only a few
dress and things,some perfume and it is all I have,and small gift for you from
russia with love.


Please send it today by Western Union or Money Gram
I will write you details:


>> !!! <<


Send it to Russia, Oksana Baskakowa !!!!This is my full name!


When you're filling Western Union form it is not necessary
to write down the destination city because i don't have a permanent address over here.
Also I've got an advice to send you a scan copy of my passport
in case you need to confirm my details.


This is my full name used in all official documents. They said this is all info you need.
But please for any case write down more info. The address where I'm
staying prospekt Wernadskogo 41 - 77. I rent a small room In an apartment of an old policeman here, it's
cheaper then hotel.The address of the closest Western Union (or MoneyGram) here is:


Bank VTB 24
119415,prospekt Wernadskogo, 33

I have some money but it's not enough to complete my trip.
Please send me 980 US dollars and I will complete my trip!
After it please write me all details about the transfer -


your FULL NAME and Money Transfer ContrNumber! !


---------------------------------------------------------------------------


I will call you as soon as I receive it.
When I receive the money I will pay for my trip and only then
the embassy will put all final stamps on my documents.
I've bought you few souvenirs with Russian attributes!!! I'm
sure you will like them! If you need something more please let me
know, they are not expensive. Also I bought two boxes of Russian
chocolate! I hope so much when I come to you we will like each other!
You are already very special to me!
Please when I come to you tell me more about you and your country!
I will listen to everything you tell me and I will do everything you
tell me! I trust you really much!
I hope you will not do something to hurt my feelings.... I
think you are really good man. I will never do anything to hurt yours!!!
By statistics Moscow is the second most expensive city in the
world after Tokyo... everything is so expensive here... and I have
to pay for my rent and food and buy tickets.. please help me..
Sorry if I missed something or didn't comment please let me know
I was so busy with with apreparations! !!!


Oksana












>TRATRAVEL INFO : Oksana Baskakowa
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Russian-English
> variants.ENGLISH SPEAKING GUIDE
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> Please label the inside and outside of each piece of baggage to
> be checked in with your name and where possible your address.
> Suitable baggage labels and
> stickers are available free of charge. In advance of your journey.
> please note the current free baggage allowance included in your
> ticket price. You can find this information in the internet or via
> your Airline contact
> person. In case you booked a special fare please note that it can
> be subject to restrictions. Travel Abroad: When preparing to travel
> abroad for less than 5 months,
> it is important to ensure entry to another country . Depending on
> the country to be visited and the worker's nationality, it may be
> necessary to apply for a
> visitor visa.The worker must have: a valid passport or travel
> document, valid
visa .
> Furthermore, page 4 must be signed by the RO. No special
> permission is needed, but it is important to have a valid
> passport,valid visa and all travel documents.


> Thank you for your booking and have a pleasant journey. Kind
> regards.'BlUE TRAVEL' is a licensed and officially registered travel agency.
> Travel agency 'BlUE TRAVEL'.


> Our goal is to provide quality services for group and individual
> travelers.
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>The nearest possible flight is - Sunday, 23 March 2008.From Moscow
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>Price: foreign passport,visa,tax,consulate fee,ticket Eco.class.USD
>1280.00+
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>This reservation will be automatically cancelled if the order is not
>purchased until Saturday, 22 March 2008.







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2008-03-17, 18:50:07
[hidden]  
Has anyone seen this lady?


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2008-03-18, 06:26:38
Dirk from Netherlands  
Tony,

IP 207.182.226.178 = Location: United States [City: Hawthorne, California]

http://www.dnsstuff..2.226.178


Jaffa,

One link to Oksana Baskakowa:

http://www.russians..ist.shtml

2008-03-18, 09:01:27
anonymous from Australia  
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To guys from oz, there is a site on russian brides which is run from Melbourne. Two of the women who both contacted me first on this site are scammers as they said they were from different places to where their ip addresses showed,(yoshkar ola). They were actually working out of the same building! There is an ip site that actually zooms in on a photo of the building where the ip originates from! You can only check 2 per day however. This is the 3rd scam that I have discovered has originated from this building. The message is, be very wary of this site as the scammers are using it.
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